Topic: Where do morals come from???
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Tue 03/22/11 01:31 PM
Can't get much deeper than God, our Source.

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Tue 03/22/11 01:33 PM

Can't get much deeper than God, our Source.


I totally agree. But lets not jump to conclusions. One first has to define and agree upon exactly that is, which has not been done yet.

God is different things to different people.


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Tue 03/22/11 01:46 PM


..you are who you are...smokin

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Tue 03/22/11 02:00 PM



..you are who you are...smokin



it is what it is. smokin

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Tue 03/22/11 06:57 PM
Well we covered trust, and we agreed.


Yes, the brief discussion about trust was agreed upon.

What about truth? That should be an interesting one.


Truth is simple. It is necessarily presupposed by thought/belief.

Also, I don't understand what you mean by "human warrant" or "universal behavioral expectation" or how that can be outside the human mind.


There needs to be a clarification here. Not being subject to the mind is not the same thing as being "outside the mind".

Warrant is that which constitutes sufficient reason to believe. Universal behavioral expectation refers to an expectation which everyone shares, regardless of whether or not they are aware of it.

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Tue 03/22/11 07:15 PM
elmo:

Can't get much deeper than God, our Source.


What is the difference between your belief in God and God?

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Tue 03/22/11 07:18 PM
Truth is simple. It is necessarily presupposed by thought/belief.



I don't understand what you mean by that.

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Tue 03/22/11 07:21 PM
There needs to be a clarification here. Not being subject to the mind is not the same thing as being "outside the mind".

Warrant is that which constitutes sufficient reason to believe. Universal behavioral expectation refers to an expectation which everyone shares, regardless of whether or not they are aware of it.



Warrant: Can't those "sufficient reasons" vary from person to person, mind to mind?

Expectation: How can one be sure if an expectation is shared by everyone?



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Wed 03/23/11 01:34 AM
Truth is essential to thought/belief. Warrant usually refers to an individual's own sufficient reason to believe, but in the case of universal warrant it is necessary by everyone, because it is necessary for thought/belief formation and language acquisition, just like trust is.

The way we can know that is through necessity.

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Wed 03/23/11 08:09 AM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Wed 03/23/11 08:09 AM

Truth is essential to thought/belief. Warrant usually refers to an individual's own sufficient reason to believe, but in the case of universal warrant it is necessary by everyone, because it is necessary for thought/belief formation and language acquisition, just like trust is.

The way we can know that is through necessity.



Since I define "truth" as information, (all information) I agree that information (truth) is essential to thought/belief.

But how is 'warrant' (reason to believe) not subject to or effected by the mind if there is conflicting information?


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Wed 03/23/11 12:33 PM
Jesus says, "I am THE way and THE truth and THE life."

Again, if you use Jesus and God as your compass, life is much simpler. Otherwise, you have to come up with your own interpretations of truth, such as, "I define "truth" as information, (all information)."

freakyshiki2009's photo
Wed 03/23/11 12:33 PM
Jesus says, "I am THE way and THE truth and THE life."

Again, if you use Jesus and God as your compass, life is much simpler. Otherwise, you have to come up with your own interpretations of truth, such as, "I define "truth" as information, (all information)."

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Wed 03/23/11 01:00 PM

Jesus says, "I am THE way and THE truth and THE life."

Again, if you use Jesus and God as your compass, life is much simpler. Otherwise, you have to come up with your own interpretations of truth, such as, "I define "truth" as information, (all information)."


This is not the religion forum freaky.
Anyway, everyone is already aware of what you believe.
You don't have to keep repeating yourself.


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Wed 03/23/11 01:12 PM
JeannieBean, I am merely answering your question.

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Wed 03/23/11 01:14 PM

JeannieBean, I am merely answering your question.


freaky, I am asking Creative, not you. I already know what you think.


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Wed 03/23/11 01:15 PM

JeannieBean, I am merely answering your question.


freaky, I am asking Creative, not you. I already know what you think.


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Wed 03/23/11 01:22 PM

JeannieBean, I am merely answering your question.


freaky, I am asking Creative, not you. I already know what you think.


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Wed 03/23/11 01:22 PM

JeannieBean, I am merely answering your question.


freaky, I am asking Creative, not you. I already know what you think.


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Wed 03/23/11 01:23 PM
Ah well, maybe Creative is not saying anything because he agrees with me 100%. Maybe he was swallowed up by that fish in his icon. He's gone; I'm here, and I think he would agree with me.


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Wed 03/23/11 01:27 PM

Ah well, maybe Creative is not saying anything because he agrees with me 100%. Maybe he was swallowed up by that fish in his icon. He's gone; I'm here, and I think he would agree with me.



rofl rofl

Oh, I get it, you're a comedian.