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Topic: 5 Reasons That The AZ Shooter Jared Loughner Is A Teabagger
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Tue 01/25/11 02:05 PM


For the record, most European "democracies" are at least partly socialist. Also, under the National Socialist Party, Germany pulled out of two decades of severe depression, becoming an economic and military powerhouse while most of the developed world was still mired in the Great Depression. Volkswagen was one of the companies actually founded by the National Socialist Party, and it's still around today.

So, the jury is still out on whether socialism is bad. A fully socialist government - which hasn't truly been yet seen on this planet - may not work at all, or if it did, may be more harm than good. On the other hand, Communism doesn't work at all. It quickly devolves into either an oligarchy or a totalitarian government.

Socialist Democracy - which is what socialism really is - does not exist because no country is a true democracy. Such a system truly is mob rule, and is only one step away from true Communism. Both are utopian ideals. Most countries that are partly socialist are Republics which help to moderate the socialist policies.

In the US, this does not work well because the system has been "patched up" repeatedly without being fixed. Each new socialist program simply adds to the burden of a leaking ship. This is why I was against health-care when everyone else was clamoring for it. Socialist programs can work in the US if our politicians would stop debating issues like "nutrition in public schools" and focus on "governmental accountability and reorganization".....for instance, get rid of pork barrel projects, reduce congressional access by lobbyists, overhaul the tax code to eliminate loopholes, etc. Our politicians need to begin paying more attention to governmental issues than social issues like steroids in baseball.

Am I a liberal? Nope. Am I a member of the Tea Party? Nope. Am I conservative? Nope.

I do believe in a Flat Rate Income Tax and a Balanced Budget Amendment. I do believe in lower taxes on businesses and higher taxes on wealthy citizens. Technically, a properly calculated flat rate tax would accomplish both, and would eliminate the need for several lesser taxes. A flat rate income tax of 20% for all U.S. citizens would currently generate $2 trillion in tax revenue. The 2010 net operating budget for the federal government was $2.08 trillion. With proper fiscal management, those numbers could be slashed drastically. On top of that, I also believe is bringing back tariffs as a way to promote manufacturing within the US while also generating more tax revenue. Therefore, when properly structured and policed, the income tax rate would probably fall somewhere between 12% and 15% for all U.S. citizens. This includes Social Security and Medicare without a separate deduction in your paycheck, and without the need for an employer contribution (i.e. lower business taxes).

This is what our elected officials should be focusing on because it would reduce the burden on the middle class, fix the tax code, relieve small business and big business alike, and create jobs here in the U.S. Enough of liberal vs. conservative. Enough of the "favor system". Time to bunker down, and fix the economics of our country instead of slapping band-aids on it. Maybe then we can talk about things like health-care.


A very academic theory, but it assumes the income tax is legitimate in the first place. Even the most arrogant Federalists never believed in it(it has always been considered theft in classical American thought, along with central banking). There was no income tax at all until 1913. It is and always has been nothing more than grand-scale theft to sponsor the elites' favorite activities and keep the slaves (aka "citizens") busy and constantly in conflict. This also serves as a good distraction from the criminality of the regime.


None of the founding fathers ever saw the U.S. growing to the population it is now, nor did they foresee how the world would change. For our current size, there aren't enough lesser taxes that the federal government would be able to levy and still support itself. Government could be downsized, but only to a limit. Therefore, without an income tax, State taxes would need to be raised with a portion of those taxes being sent to the federal government to support it.

The Constitution allows the federal government to levy taxes, a lesson learned from the years under the Articles of Confederation. In fact, Article I, Section 8 of the Constitution mentions the reasons for which Congress may levy taxes. This was later expanded and clarified by the 16th Amendment which states "The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes on income, from whatever source derived, without apportionment among the several States, and without regard to any census or enumeration." Being a Constitutional Amendment, this had to pass each House by a 2/3 majority, and then be passed by 3/4 of all the State Legislatures. Passing an Amendment is no easy task, as the Framers of the Constitution intended. Therefore, to claim the income tax "unconstitutional" is absurd. The Federalists may not agreed with the idea, but that power was never banned in the original Constitution. The 16th Amendment is simply a clarification of Congressional power based on the debts incurred by Reconstruction. Therefore, having the federal government be primarily funded by a percentage of State taxes is unconstitutional since it undermines the the authority of Congress.

The problem with Article I, Section 8 is that it does not grant the government the power to support a standing Army. It does allow for a standing Navy. This all changed during the American Civil War by Executive Order which did away with militia system (which was eventually replaced by The National Guard and The Reserves). However, no Amendment was ever passed allow Congress to fund the maintenance of a standing Army or Air Force. Modern warfare necessitated a standardization of training and conditioning for soldiers, and the American Civil War is recognized as the first modern war because of the role technology played. Therefore, rather than pointing to this as an abuse of Congressional or Executive power, this is merely a portion of the Constitution which requires updating. (The Article only allows Congress to raise and fund a standing Army for a term of 2 years....but it does not prevent Congress from renewing the 2 year term each time it expires, hence the loophole the government has used.)

The American Civil War, World War I, the Great Depression, and World War II forever changed the economics of our federal government. Do changes need to be made? Of course. But the federal budget cannot be reduced to a skeleton without damaging the economic structure of our country. Much of what the federal budget pays for actually stabilizes our economy - a lesson learned during the Great Depression, World War II, and the post-war. These programs need to be left intact while excessive spending is brought under control. Contractors who milk the government for every penny, pork barrel projects that only benefit a few, fuel costs for the military (let's face it....we need to find fuel alternatives but corporations have been resisting it), etc. There are plenty of ways to reduce the budget. The Income Tax is necessary at this point, but this can be done. To lessen the shock, and to ease the pain, the cuts must be done over the course of perhaps a Presidential term. (I believe Bill Clinton used a 5 year plan.) The first step, however, is to SIMPLIFY government. That's where a Flat Rate Income Tax comes in. It is the quickest, simplest, least painful radical change the federal government can make to help strengthen our country again.

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Tue 01/25/11 02:16 PM

"For the record, most European "democracies" are at least partly socialist. Also, under the National Socialist Party, Germany pulled out of two decades of severe depression, becoming an economic and military powerhouse while most of the developed world was still mired in the Great Depression. Volkswagen was one of the companies actually founded by the National Socialist Party, and it's still around today."

For the record... Volkswagen not withstanding...

NSP pulled Germany out of two decades of severe depression by sacraficing a good portion of its citizens... Less mouths to feed...

Aztec economics don't quite work well if you is one of the 'sacraficees'...







This may be true, but I am not sure to what extent. After all, the same policy didn't work nearly as well for Stalin during the same time-span. In any case, that portion is history isn't my forte - I would have to look into it more.

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