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Topic: Soul is Immortal!
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Wed 01/05/11 02:29 AM
If soul is immortal why do we fear of death?scared

ImJustaMan's photo
Wed 01/05/11 03:32 AM
because the impermanent nature of life makes it so

ShiningArmour's photo
Wed 01/05/11 07:04 AM

because the impermanent nature of life makes it so


That's right

CowboyGH's photo
Wed 01/05/11 07:14 AM

If soul is immortal why do we fear of death?scared


Who fears death? If one fears death it's probably a different reasoning between the people.

barun1959's photo
Wed 01/05/11 07:35 AM


If soul is immortal why do we fear of death?scared


Who fears death? If one fears death it's probably a different reasoning between the people.

So far I never met a person (ordinary person like me) who is not fearful of death.Some of them are worried about their family,some are worried for non-fulfilment of some desire;ultimately no body wants to die before those work.sad

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Wed 01/05/11 07:39 AM



If soul is immortal why do we fear of death?scared


Who fears death? If one fears death it's probably a different reasoning between the people.

So far I never met a person (ordinary person like me) who is not fearful of death.Some of them are worried about their family,some are worried for non-fulfilment of some desire;ultimately no body wants to die before those work.sad


It's not that I want to die. It's just what is there to fear? Death is a part of life. We are born, we live, we die. What is there to fear? It's gonna happen one day. Why spend the energy and worry of fearing death when it's inevitable one day? It's not something one can prevent or choose if they die or not.

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Wed 01/05/11 07:59 AM




If soul is immortal why do we fear of death?scared


Who fears death? If one fears death it's probably a different reasoning between the people.

So far I never met a person (ordinary person like me) who is not fearful of death.Some of them are worried about their family,some are worried for non-fulfilment of some desire;ultimately no body wants to die before those work.sad


It's not that I want to die. It's just what is there to fear? Death is a part of life. We are born, we live, we die. What is there to fear? It's gonna happen one day. Why spend the energy and worry of fearing death when it's inevitable one day? It's not something one can prevent or choose if they die or not.

Yes,I will die,you will die,infact all living things will die but not our souls. When soul leaves the body it is termed as dead and soul enters to other body and that becomes a living body. So in that sense we are not dying only our body dies. Still we are affraid of death(most of my known persons).

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Wed 01/05/11 08:23 AM





If soul is immortal why do we fear of death?scared


Who fears death? If one fears death it's probably a different reasoning between the people.

So far I never met a person (ordinary person like me) who is not fearful of death.Some of them are worried about their family,some are worried for non-fulfilment of some desire;ultimately no body wants to die before those work.sad


It's not that I want to die. It's just what is there to fear? Death is a part of life. We are born, we live, we die. What is there to fear? It's gonna happen one day. Why spend the energy and worry of fearing death when it's inevitable one day? It's not something one can prevent or choose if they die or not.

Yes,I will die,you will die,infact all living things will die but not our souls. When soul leaves the body it is termed as dead and soul enters to other body and that becomes a living body. So in that sense we are not dying only our body dies. Still we are affraid of death(most of my known persons).


True, the only way to die is to not receive the gift of heaven. You either have been obedient and received the gift of heaven and eternal life or you are punished with death. In my previous post I was more referring to secular death... the death of this body in secular eyes.

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Wed 01/05/11 07:10 PM

If soul is immortal why do we fear of death?scared

Our soul is immortal. i think people fear death because they are uncertain of where they will spend eternity. this is an understandable fear if you are unsure. there is always fear in uncertainty no matter what the issue is. i can only tell you that there is absolutly nothing to fear if you know the creater and giver of life. if you dont know who that is, his name is Jesus.

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Wed 01/05/11 07:16 PM
Edited by CowboyGH on Wed 01/05/11 07:17 PM


If soul is immortal why do we fear of death?scared

Our soul is immortal. i think people fear death because they are uncertain of where they will spend eternity. this is an understandable fear if you are unsure. there is always fear in uncertainty no matter what the issue is. i can only tell you that there is absolutly nothing to fear if you know the creater and giver of life. if you dont know who that is, his name is Jesus.


amen!!!, very well said.

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Wed 01/05/11 07:23 PM


If soul is immortal why do we fear of death?scared

Our soul is immortal. i think people fear death because they are uncertain of where they will spend eternity. this is an understandable fear if you are unsure. there is always fear in uncertainty no matter what the issue is. i can only tell you that there is absolutly nothing to fear if you know the creater and giver of life. if you dont know who that is, his name is Jesus.

Name of the CREATOR is UNKNOWN... Some say god... Some say Allah... Some say YHWH... These are but a small sample.

Calling god by the name of a man is kinda lame.

Jesus was born of woman... ergo he is but a man.

Fear of death is an understandable emotion... Yet death is but a step upon the road of life.

and that which is called 'heaven' upon the earth in this time is but a way-point in the journey...

There is a greater destination.

Life must be a continous forward motion else 'eternity' is meaningless.

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Sat 01/08/11 10:58 PM
I don't believe our bodies are infested by some spiritual force.

As for dying - for most of my life I have not feared death, but I have feared the manner in which it will overtake me.

In the last few years, perhaps because of my age, I have one other fear - that I will not have enough time to experience a long life with the love of my life.

No one wants to be old alone, so as we age it becomes very important to build a life within your community. Through those others you build a diverse family in which you value and care for others as they value and care for you.

Then the fear of death will once again be in how it overtakes me.

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Sun 01/09/11 12:14 AM

If soul is immortal why do we fear of death?scared



Thier is nowhere in the Scriptures that says we have an immortal soul and will live forever.

It says immortal life is a gift and the wages of sin is Death not life.. Shalom..Miles

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Sun 01/09/11 05:04 AM


If soul is immortal why do we fear of death?scared



Thier is nowhere in the Scriptures that says we have an immortal soul and will live forever.

It says immortal life is a gift and the wages of sin is Death not life.. Shalom..Miles


James 2:26For as the body without the a spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.

1 Thesalonians 5:23 Now may the God of peace himself make you completely holy and may your spirit and soul and body be kept entirely blameless at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.

Furthermore God created man in his own image. God has three parts Father,Son and Holy Ghost. Therefor Man must also have three parts, Body soul and spirit. Body (Flesh) Soul His inner man which is in in fact the real you. The flesh is simply a tool to interact with a material world. Which is why when the ghost leaves the body the body will not live. And finnally spirit, His mind will and emotions.

I've given biblical proof above. Whether or not you believe that stuff is up to you.

God bless happy

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Sun 01/09/11 07:57 AM
"James 2:26For as the body without the a spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also."

Is the inverse also true (balanced).

works without faith being dead actions?

Yet Spirit without the body would be a free souln (we are in the image of an imortal concept)... the body does not die - it is cast off by the spirit and ceases to function as does an engine without fuel.

Therefore Works of Good done by one without faith are still works to the good.


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Sun 01/09/11 09:59 AM



If soul is immortal why do we fear of death?scared



Thier is nowhere in the Scriptures that says we have an immortal soul and will live forever.

It says immortal life is a gift and the wages of sin is Death not life.. Shalom..Miles


James 2:26For as the body without the a spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.

1 Thesalonians 5:23 Now may the God of peace himself make you completely holy and may your spirit and soul and body be kept entirely blameless at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.

Furthermore God created man in his own image. God has three parts Father,Son and Holy Ghost. Therefor Man must also have three parts, Body soul and spirit. Body (Flesh) Soul His inner man which is in in fact the real you. The flesh is simply a tool to interact with a material world. Which is why when the ghost leaves the body the body will not live. And finnally spirit, His mind will and emotions.

I've given biblical proof above. Whether or not you believe that stuff is up to you.

God bless happy




Biblical proof?

What do those 2 verses say?

and 3 parts to Elohim.. Yahweh says he is 1 and thier is no other. Yahshua called him his father and Yahshua had to leave to Send the Spirit. Blessings..Miles

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Sun 01/09/11 11:38 AM




If soul is immortal why do we fear of death?scared



Thier is nowhere in the Scriptures that says we have an immortal soul and will live forever.

It says immortal life is a gift and the wages of sin is Death not life.. Shalom..Miles


James 2:26For as the body without the a spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.

1 Thesalonians 5:23 Now may the God of peace himself make you completely holy and may your spirit and soul and body be kept entirely blameless at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.

Furthermore God created man in his own image. God has three parts Father,Son and Holy Ghost. Therefor Man must also have three parts, Body soul and spirit. Body (Flesh) Soul His inner man which is in in fact the real you. The flesh is simply a tool to interact with a material world. Which is why when the ghost leaves the body the body will not live. And finnally spirit, His mind will and emotions.

I've given biblical proof above. Whether or not you believe that stuff is up to you.

God bless happy




Biblical proof?

What do those 2 verses say?

and 3 parts to Elohim.. Yahweh says he is 1 and thier is no other. Yahshua called him his father and Yahshua had to leave to Send the Spirit. Blessings..Miles


Ive never heard of Yahshua before.

And by Yahweh I'm guessing you mean God?

Yes God is the only true God that part is true. But the Godhead has three parts that make up the one.
Father
Son
Holy Ghost

1 Thesalonians 5:23 Now may the God of peace himself make you completely holy and may your spirit and soul and body be kept entirely blameless at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.

I put this one in there because it mentions Spirit. You said no where in scripture does it say you have a spirit. (Ok you used soul) But I think we both mean the inner man.

And I mentioned James because it says the body with out the spirit (That thing you say is not mentioned in scripture) is dead.

I'm simply giving scripture that mentions the spirit. (Or if you want to split hairs the soul)

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Sun 01/09/11 12:07 PM

Who fears death?


What an asinine question. Surely, you can't assume that everyone shares you delusion about heaven.


We fear death because we are conscious, thinking animals. Unlike other animals, we are quite aware of our mortality. In addition, we are egocentric; we fear that instead of an afterlife, we become nonexistent, and this is unacceptable to our egos.

Some fear going to hell, but that is a unreasonable and even unnatural fear, instilled by culture and religion.

Most humans fear the unknown: it is why we hate those who are different from us. Most fear that which we cannot understand: physically, we understand how, and why, we die, but the question of what comes next is an unanswered question.

We fear death because we are biologically programmed for survival. We will go to great lengths to stay alive, killing other humans in war, as sacrifices, and in other venues. The evolution of humans is based on this premise, otherwise, we would have died out long ago.

There is an old saying that goes, "Everyone wants to go to heaven, but nobody wants to die." One of the silliest hypocrisies I have witnessed are Christians who "beat" death, especially the elderly. I had a near 80 neighbor who had heart surgery. He told me that he made it through because so many people were praying for him. I wanted to ask him why he just didn't die and get on to heaven, but I didn't know him well and refrained.

Years ago, my ex husband had a strong, almost militant Christian friend who said many times that he was "ready to die" and just wished "god would take him home." He came to our house one day with a white face, totally shaken. He said that he had nearly driven his truck over the edge of a precipice and NEARLY died!

I asked why that bothered him--after all, he was ready to die. He had life insurance, so his kids (living with his ex wife) would have been taken care of. He looked at me, a strange light dawning in his eyes. I never heard him say again that he was ready to die.

When I was in the church, I also asked the pastor why we weren't immediately taken to heaven when we became saved. He replied that we needed to stay on earth to convert nonbelievers. I couldn't buy into that explanation! If I were a nonbeliever and the guy next to me said, "Hallelujah! I am saved!" and disappeared, it would convince me a whole lot better than rhetoric would.



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Sun 01/09/11 12:08 PM





If soul is immortal why do we fear of death?scared



Thier is nowhere in the Scriptures that says we have an immortal soul and will live forever.

It says immortal life is a gift and the wages of sin is Death not life.. Shalom..Miles


James 2:26For as the body without the a spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.

1 Thesalonians 5:23 Now may the God of peace himself make you completely holy and may your spirit and soul and body be kept entirely blameless at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.

Furthermore God created man in his own image. God has three parts Father,Son and Holy Ghost. Therefor Man must also have three parts, Body soul and spirit. Body (Flesh) Soul His inner man which is in in fact the real you. The flesh is simply a tool to interact with a material world. Which is why when the ghost leaves the body the body will not live. And finnally spirit, His mind will and emotions.

I've given biblical proof above. Whether or not you believe that stuff is up to you.

God bless happy




Biblical proof?

What do those 2 verses say?

and 3 parts to Elohim.. Yahweh says he is 1 and thier is no other. Yahshua called him his father and Yahshua had to leave to Send the Spirit. Blessings..Miles


Ive never heard of Yahshua before.

And by Yahweh I'm guessing you mean God?

Yes God is the only true God that part is true. But the Godhead has three parts that make up the one.
Father
Son
Holy Ghost

1 Thesalonians 5:23 Now may the God of peace himself make you completely holy and may your spirit and soul and body be kept entirely blameless at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.

I put this one in there because it mentions Spirit. You said no where in scripture does it say you have a spirit. (Ok you used soul) But I think we both mean the inner man.

And I mentioned James because it says the body with out the spirit (That thing you say is not mentioned in scripture) is dead.

I'm simply giving scripture that mentions the spirit. (Or if you want to split hairs the soul)




Matt 10:28-29
28 And do not fear those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. But rather fear Him who is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.
NKJV


all i am saying is we are not immortal.. that is a gift. Our future spirit will either inherit Life everlasting or will be killed destruction. no hell fire for humans forever.

Rev 20:4-6
5 But the rest of the dead did not live again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection. 6 Blessed and holy is he who has part in the first resurrection. Over such the second death has no power, but they shall be priests of Yahweh and of Messiah, and shall reign with Him a thousand years.
NKJV

Rev 20:13-15
The sea gave up the dead who were in it, and Death and Hades delivered up the dead who were in them. And they were judged, each one according to his works. 14 Then Death and Hades were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. 15 And anyone not found written in the Book of Life was cast into the lake of fire.
NKJV

Immortality was given to those who was born Immortal like the Angels. Not man we are changed at the twinkling of an eye then we become immortal but know this..

1 John 3:13-15

13 Do not marvel, my brethren, if the world hates you. 14 We know that we have passed from death to life, because we love the brethren. He who does not love his brother abides in death. 15 Whoever hates his brother is a murderer , and you know that no murderer has eternal life abiding in him.
NKJV
Blessings of Shalom..Miles

P. S. Yahshua is the name given the Messiah.. The Family name of a son.

Yahshua literally means Yahweh Saves or Salvation

Everyone who Calls on the name of Yahweh shall be Saved

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Sun 01/09/11 12:11 PM






If soul is immortal why do we fear of death?scared



Thier is nowhere in the Scriptures that says we have an immortal soul and will live forever.

It says immortal life is a gift and the wages of sin is Death not life.. Shalom..Miles


James 2:26For as the body without the a spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.

1 Thesalonians 5:23 Now may the God of peace himself make you completely holy and may your spirit and soul and body be kept entirely blameless at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.

Furthermore God created man in his own image. God has three parts Father,Son and Holy Ghost. Therefor Man must also have three parts, Body soul and spirit. Body (Flesh) Soul His inner man which is in in fact the real you. The flesh is simply a tool to interact with a material world. Which is why when the ghost leaves the body the body will not live. And finnally spirit, His mind will and emotions.

I've given biblical proof above. Whether or not you believe that stuff is up to you.

God bless happy




Biblical proof?

What do those 2 verses say?

and 3 parts to Elohim.. Yahweh says he is 1 and thier is no other. Yahshua called him his father and Yahshua had to leave to Send the Spirit. Blessings..Miles


Ive never heard of Yahshua before.

And by Yahweh I'm guessing you mean God?

Yes God is the only true God that part is true. But the Godhead has three parts that make up the one.
Father
Son
Holy Ghost

1 Thesalonians 5:23 Now may the God of peace himself make you completely holy and may your spirit and soul and body be kept entirely blameless at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.

I put this one in there because it mentions Spirit. You said no where in scripture does it say you have a spirit. (Ok you used soul) But I think we both mean the inner man.

And I mentioned James because it says the body with out the spirit (That thing you say is not mentioned in scripture) is dead.

I'm simply giving scripture that mentions the spirit. (Or if you want to split hairs the soul)




Matt 10:28-29
28 And do not fear those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. But rather fear Him who is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.
NKJV


all i am saying is we are not immortal.. that is a gift. Our future spirit will either inherit Life everlasting or will be killed destruction. no hell fire for humans forever.

Rev 20:4-6
5 But the rest of the dead did not live again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection. 6 Blessed and holy is he who has part in the first resurrection. Over such the second death has no power, but they shall be priests of Yahweh and of Messiah, and shall reign with Him a thousand years.
NKJV

Rev 20:13-15
The sea gave up the dead who were in it, and Death and Hades delivered up the dead who were in them. And they were judged, each one according to his works. 14 Then Death and Hades were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. 15 And anyone not found written in the Book of Life was cast into the lake of fire.
NKJV

Immortality was given to those who was born Immortal like the Angels. Not man we are changed at the twinkling of an eye then we become immortal but know this..

1 John 3:13-15

13 Do not marvel, my brethren, if the world hates you. 14 We know that we have passed from death to life, because we love the brethren. He who does not love his brother abides in death. 15 Whoever hates his brother is a murderer , and you know that no murderer has eternal life abiding in him.
NKJV
Blessings of Shalom..Miles

P. S. Yahshua is the name given the Messiah.. The Family name of a son.

Yahshua literally means Yahweh Saves or Salvation

Everyone who Calls on the name of Yahweh shall be Saved


So then why cast them into the lake of fire? Kicks and giggles? I'm not here to argue with you Miles. I simply wanted to show where it says in the bible that man has a soul. I believe I did that.

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