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Edited by
davidben1
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sorry but there is no "but" to that. if you ask someone out and they say yes, they have accepted your offer. conversely, if the answer is no, your offer has been rejected, period. it doesn't matter how one chooses to color it, it does exist. it is part of life and always will be. now, should we dwell on it? no, but to simply deny that rejection is part of the human experience would be lying to one's self. i live in the human world, not the ostrich world. lol... it is only whining, crying, self sympathizing men, who cry because they were rejected, but indeed, it was BUT BECAUSE ALL OTHERS WERE SEEN AS BUT AN OBJECT, of IF THEY TWOULD GIVE SELF WHAT IT WANTED. and when they don't?  BUT, IF A MAN ACTUALLY CARED ABOUT "HER", TWOULD MEAN HE WOULD CARE ABOUT WHAT "SHE" WANTED, AND SO TO HEAR A "NO" WOULD BE GRAND GOOD TO HEAR... UNLESS IT WAS SO MUCH ABOUT HIMSELF, he seen and heard nothing but a yes and no, not any true caring about what "she" wanted AT ALL. what emotion do you seek to envoke with your words? lol... some rejection, lol... for the self as wise only. Why do you always ask that? “what emotion do you seek to envoke with your words?” what makes you think I am seeking anything? I thought we were sharing thoughts and discussing a difference of ideas. I don’t see where I was “whining” about anything, sorry if you can’t tell the difference. No matter how many times you repeat the same point; it doesn’t make it any more true. Having consideration for other peoples wants, needs or desires, is not the same thing as falsely convincing yourself that rejection does not exist. In fact, the latter seems to me to be a built-in protection mechanism, made to fortify a delicate ego and shield us from the harsh reality the sometimes comes to visit in this world. Hell, the very idea that we have the word to describe a given reaction, should be all the proof you need. Next you’re going to tell me that all the kids in the league deserve trophies; that there is no reason to keep score, because there are really no winners or losers. Please, say it aint so! were you not bemoaning rejections? the pain of them? a no is rejection? there can exist no rejection, lest one feel pain from a no? to bemoan pain from something is to as cry of it. and indeed, it twould seem that one who does not recieve a "no" easily is easily rejected. there are those in the world, that did not learn to value a no, and do experience much pain by hating any inference of lack of interest or a no from another person and a women... and it does indeed seem in such cases many tellings would come forth of the pains a women has caused these... and that in these type situations, there could grow a built in defense mechanism to try to shield the self inability and want to recieve a no in life, which makes the mention of "no" quite a """touchy""" subject... and these do try to get yes's and interest from women, applying pressure from all in their life most close, to comply. and that a many "no" and lack of interest could create a sensitive ego, one so sensitive that many a word can reduce to childlike feelings, therefore feelings of protecting self from the harsh world of many """no's""" for oneself, and make one in these situations revert to child reality... and saying as "i am human", "you are ostrich"....can be spewed... and it twould seem in these cases, there could indeed exist a fragile ego. it twould seem science has shown fragile ego's anger rather easily, and are easily upsettled by words and emotions not adult yet to handle. and indeed, hence the utmost critical reason to recognize the importance of but reaching to the ability to accept "no" with no tears. lest one wish it's life to be lived but in fear of no. indeed, a sad place. rejection in life comes but from a fear to hear no, in some way shape and form.. whether it be for a raise in pay, or a girlfriend, or for love, or a new car, or a new house, or a hot sexy night, or a quickie... so, if one releases from it's clutches the fear of a no, so THAN PEOPLE, it easily and redily accpeting a no, different good energies are created between any two peoples, about all things... and the first process of eliminating fear of not having and no's in life, can fade, and certainly one twould have learned at least to accept a no with no tears, and most a no about love from a women with no tears, as was a childs first conquest... and manhood hath been achieved. and than one may not reduce itself to positions of schoolyard spweing and sayings... i am human you are ostrich and anyhow, i think ostriches are cool. i seen them can kick the shitz out of another ostrich with those fuccking long as martial art feet they got... lol... like little flying ningas' those fuccking ostriches are, lol... little ninga ostriches taking over the world, lol... lol... hell, one could make a whole cartoon series out of just ostriches alone they are such badasss creatures... a new kids movie perhaps... and those fuccking beaks those bastards have... i seen on the history channel, no, was nat geo, no, animal planet, anyhow, these two got in a fight, and they actually kill each other with their beaks, not feet, and the one ripped the throat right out of this other ostrich with it's beak,and there as blood everywhere and all... ah, made me shiver... i hate the sight of blood, lest it be a emergency, rescue or something, than it seems to go away totally... anyhow... so, they are said to be some of the most loving birds as well, but firecly protective... anyhow.... i think their badasss and cool.. so do my daughters... funny how you picked ostrich out of the infinity other choices you had available... doth tell something. but, the fact that they can fight hard when they need to, and love just as hard, is then quality i like the most... what about you kc? why pick on the ostriches? stop knockin the ostriches. merry christmas, and share the ego nog. |
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Whew hopefully it's all back to normal...   That'd be today right?   Yes it is.. Cheers... Shot of Kentucky Bourbon. 
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Interesting title Navygirl.... Its a real book and its some great advice to women who keep getting hurt. I am glad I read it as it certainly opened my eyes. |
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Edited by
kc0003
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Fri 12/24/10 11:26 PM
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Dear Professor,
I have no idea why you think anyone that has a different opinion than you is trying to illicit anything but conversation. I guess it shows how much you think of yourself, or your fear of how little others do. Since you seem to be unable to talk without getting personal and are so persistent, I may just accommodate you. were you not bemoaning rejections? the pain of them? a no is rejection? No I was not “bemoaning” anything, what I was and continue to do, or say, is that, it does exist. No: indicates a negative response, used to refuse, deny, or disagree with something there can exist no rejection, lest one feel pain from a no? to bemoan pain from something is to as cry of it. It is you that introduced “pain” to this discussion, not me. Could this have been Freudian? and indeed, it twould seem that one who does not recieve a "no" easily is easily rejected. In the America’s, “twould” as used in the everyday vernacular died about 150 years ago, (just so you know) save for the widely accepted use in literature. It is the combination of the words “it” and “would”, to use this word directly following the word “it” produces redundancy, something it appears you are quite familiar with. there are those in the world, that did not learn to value a no, and do experience much pain by hating any inference of lack of interest or a no from another person and a women... Interesting wording here; ……”and a women” why have you separated women from persons? Freud again? and it does indeed seem in such cases many tellings would come forth of the pains a women has caused these... and that in these type situations, there could grow a built in defense mechanism to try to shield the self inability and want to recieve a no in life, which makes the mention of "no" quite a """touchy""" subject... and these do try to get yes's and interest from women, applying pressure from all in their life most close, to comply. and that a many "no" and lack of interest could create a sensitive ego, one so sensitive that many a word can reduce to childlike feelings, therefore feelings of protecting self from the harsh world of many """no's""" for oneself, and make one in these situations revert to child reality... and saying as "i am human", "you are ostrich"....can be spewed... Your understanding of me lacks one important ingredient….understanding. Do not misquote any one statement by me and attempt to give a psychological evaluation. It is an uneducated guess at best and a poor one at that. What I said was “I live in the human world, not the ostrich world.” It was in reference to your suggestion that if she would simply have done as you said and asked her suitors what it is that they wanted, there would be no need for this thread. That seems to me to border on pompous, not to mention the fact that it completely rules out the possibility that the other person may lie. Yes Virginia, people do that! Part of the op’s complaint is that they do. I don’t care how many times you ask, if the other person is there for the ride or using you or deceiving you, there is not much you can do until the hammer falls. and it twould seem in these cases, there could indeed exist a fragile ego. There’s that word again it twould seem science has shown fragile ego's anger rather easily, and are easily upsettled by words and emotions not adult yet to handle. And again…ok, my pointing it out has become redundant itself, I shall refrain from here on…….. It is interesting though, how you misinterpreted my ostrich statement and your way of responding is by calling me a child. Hahaha!!!......well, my dad can beat-up your dad….lmao! hahahahaha!!!!!!! and indeed, hence the utmost critical reason to recognize the importance of but reaching to the ability to accept "no" with no tears. lest one wish it's life to be lived but in fear of no. indeed, a sad place. I don’t know how a “one” can become an “it”, but as I said before, rejection does exist and we should not dwell on it, but accept it for what it is and move forward. rejection in life comes but from a fear to hear no, in some way shape and form.. whether it be for a raise in pay, or a girlfriend, or for love, or a new car, or a new house, or a hot sexy night, or a quickie... so, if one releases from it's clutches the fear of a no, so THAN PEOPLE, it easily and redily accpeting a no, different good energies are created between any two peoples, about all things... and the first process of eliminating fear of not having and no's in life, can fade, and certainly one twould have learned at least to accept a no with no tears, and most a no about love from a women with no tears, as was a childs first conquest... and manhood hath been achieved. There are times when I read your statements and all I can do is ask myself, “What planet is he from?” This may have made sense in your native tongue, but your extraterrestrial to English translator needs to be updated. I have to ask,”….. and most a no about love from a women with no tears, as was a childs first conquest...” What?!!!! Rejection: the rejecting of something or somebody, or the fact of being rejected To conclude it comes out of the fear of hearing the word “no” you have admitted that rejection does exist, but you continue to argue the opposite? Why? and than one may not reduce itself to positions of schoolyard spweing and sayings... i am human you are ostrich Awwwww, how cute…This is the third mention of this; all I can do is assume you really did take it to heart and you’re little feelings have been hurt. I’m sorry for denting your armor, as unintentional as it were. Of course by resorting to name calling and striking back, you leave me no alternative but call you out as a fraud and a poser. You see, for you to take it as a personal insult when I told her not to bury her head in the sand and pretend that rejection does not exist, only shows that you don’t even believe the quasi Buddhist/Hindu/ Taoism/Spiritual/I am superior to all those that don’t follow my way of thinking/Neo/Seventeenth century speaking/Ultra post modern progressive rhetoric that you so proudly spread all over the pages of this site. and anyhow, i think ostriches are cool. i hear they can kick the **** out of somebody with those fuccking long as martial art feet they got... lol... like little flying ningas' those astriches are, little ninga ostriches taking over the world, lol... lol... hell, one could make a whole cartoon series out of just ostriches alone they are such badasss creatures... a new kids movie perhaps... and those fuccking beaks those bastards have... i seen on the history channel, no, was nat geo, no, animal planet, anyhow, these two got in a fight, and they actually kill each other with their beaks, not feet, and the one ripped the throat right out of this other ostrich with it's beak,and there as blood everywhere and all... ah, made me shiver... i hate the sight of blood, lest it be a emergency, rescue or something, than it seems to go away totally... anyhow... so, they are said to be some of the most loving birds as well, but firecly protective... anyhow.... i think their badasss and cool.. so do my daughters... funny how you picked ostrich out of the infinity other choices you had available... doth tell something. but, the fact that they can fight hard when they need to, and love just as hard, is then quality i like the most... what about you kc? why pick on the ostriches? stop knockin the ostriches. merry christmas, and share the ego nog. I have not picked on them, again you have misinterpreted me. I will let you know an actual fact about me though; as opposed to the things you make up or conclude from reading a sentence or two. The animal park that I was associated with for a very long time had 3 of them. They are very skidish creatures, but they can be kind of entertaining. They are not the smartest of animals though, in fact, one of the things that is often said about them and Rheas (their South American cousins) is that they wake each day, trying to figure ways to kill themselves. It is not unusual to find them hanging on fences much shorter than they are, or to for them to choke to death by biting off more than they can chew. One last thing….I whole heartedly reject your notion that if one ignores the existence of something, it no longer exist. There, I have now proven that rejection does exist and it is thriving in this thread! |
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Dear Professor, I have no idea why you think anyone that has a different opinion than you is trying to illicit anything but conversation. I'm not going to quote your entire post, but I just wanted to tell you - very well said. |
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The chase is ok.
The conquest, getting laid, is better. |
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I think when it is right it just will be.. I know it sounds cliche` but I think it's true.. We can chat and talk and really seem to click with people and then it's gone like a flash.. They do something that we don't like or vice versa... But when we really click with someone it's going to click through their moods, ours, bad days, good days, etc. I don't think there will be a question... For the most part, I agree with this. In response to the OP, I do think that for many guys it is just about "The Chase". Not all, but a large percentage. |
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The chase is ok. The conquest, getting laid, is better. Isn't the conquest just the final part of the chase? The part where you win? |
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The chase is ok. The conquest, getting laid, is better. Isn't the conquest just the final part of the chase? The part where you win? Cat-man, mouse-woman, slap-sex Da cat slap da mouse and then waits for the mouse to make the next move. Mouse don't make move, cat move on. 
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The chase is ok. The conquest, getting laid, is better. Isn't the conquest just the final part of the chase? The part where you win? Cat-man, mouse-woman, slap-sex Da cat slap da mouse and then waits for the mouse to make the next move. Mouse don't make move, cat move on. I see. |
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Cat-man, mouse-woman, slap-sex Da cat slap da mouse and then waits for the mouse to make the next move. Mouse don't make move, cat move on. I see. Forewarned is forearmed. 
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Cat-man, mouse-woman, slap-sex Da cat slap da mouse and then waits for the mouse to make the next move. Mouse don't make move, cat move on. I see. Forewarned is forearmed. No kidding!! LOL... Talk long enough and you'll find out all you need to.. Every here and there someone is "that good" where you'll be fooled but it's rare thankfully! |
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Cat-man, mouse-woman, slap-sex Da cat slap da mouse and then waits for the mouse to make the next move. Mouse don't make move, cat move on. I see. Forewarned is forearmed. No kidding!! LOL... Talk long enough and you'll find out all you need to.. Every here and there someone is "that good" where you'll be fooled but it's rare thankfully! Ya'll don't take me too seriously. I done went and got all old and mellow. I no longer play the games I played as a kid. I don't mind spillin' the beans about what types of games younger guys play. Even if, they hate me for it.
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I wasn't referring to "you" Willing.. I just happen to agree with the concept, which is why I elaborated on it...
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I knew you were not saying that's what you do, Willing. But, I do see it a lot these days so it was interesting to hear from a man's perspective.
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Hey wait a doggone minute here!!
 I still got game!!!  
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Hey wait a doggone minute here!! I still got game!!! |
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I can see your putting your best foot er assests forward, but I wouldnt ,,not if you want more then there passing glance,,It comes across hookerish..not someone you take home to meet the folks,,,
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