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Topic: Is China the new Nazis of the new Millenium?
AndyBgood's photo
Wed 12/22/10 09:53 AM
Comparing actions over words a lot can be seen about what China is doing both politically and militarily. When I look at the history of the world and current events I see direct parallels between Germany 1930s and China now. The arguments can be raised that many of China's current actions are exactly the same as Nazi Germany. This leads me to one inevitable conclusion that another World War is inevitable with them with the path they are following is not changed.

How china Parallels Nazi Germany...

Tienamin Square, rolling over protesting unarmed college students with a tank and then trying like hell to cover it up to the extent that China refuses to acknowledge it happened. The protest was over democracy and civil rights they don't have in China. Germany was extremely guilty of covering over its many atrocities and actually tried to come off like they were innocent and protecting themselves. China has indeed committed a host of atrocities they will not admit to and try to grow past their implementation. Fear and propaganda among their population is a tool of control much like Nazi Germany but hey, even we are guilty of that too with our media!

Covertly building a war machine behind our backs. If they were our friends they would be honest about their weapons development. They are in a rush to develop the same attack and defense capabilities at any cost including stealing technology from us when they can. The country with the dominant industry wins a war. Hitler's greatest **** up was not having an energy policy in place when he began to roll on eastern Europe. Cut off from oil killed Germany slowly.

Tibet and Thailand. China lays claims to two countries that have had their own histories for so freaking long but in Tibet's case China not only invaded them they committed cultural genocide which is just a softer version of Hitler's attempted purge of the Jews and Homosexuals. China is very aggressive towards controlling Thailand.

Korea, China was a participant of the push back when we had taken N Korea but we could not cross the border into China to repel the Chinese troops that invaded. Make no bones about it, K Korea is a puppet of China' and in all reality of China was interested in peace there they would have made Kim Jong Il step down or at least forced him to negotiate with us in better form. As ling as N Korea does as China wishes they get fed. This also keeps the pupped slave rulers the Ils in power which is god for them and their friends.

China has been a constant source of attacks on the internet and economically. they are attempting to subdue us economically and our leadership has been bought out by them. President Clinton has sold us out to them to a degree the impact has yet to be fully realized. Our debt with them is becoming crushing to the point we may not be able to get out of it and in the end out actions abroad have been not only profiting them but benefiting them in that Iraqi oil is sold to China, not the world. We give the Panama Canal to the Panamanians and China takes it over.

China has attempted to tie our hands using environmental concerns like the Kyoto treaty where they could pollute without control while we had to restrain our emission more. They also sit on the Security Council of the UN.

China is also a nation that does not acknowledge any patent rights other than those people pay for there. They copy everything and make no bones about making knockoffs of everything to handbags to high technology. As long as it does not embarrass the country they don't care.

And culturally anyone who knows the Chinese mindset knows that they will smile in your face and insult you behind your back becasue the rest of us are NOT Chinese and likewise BELOW THEM! Now every nation in the world has elitists and this does not reflect on EVERY Chinese person out there since I have met a lot of Chinese people who were just like anyone else trying to make a name for themselves and living good lives among others. Unfortunately this belief is stronger in China's ruling party, class, clique (whatever) than anyone would imagine and they use this thinking to promote their agendas and grab for global dominion. You cannot negotiate in good faith with people who think like this and that has been reflected in our historical relations with the communist regime of China. The only thing an Elitist will respect is the fact you can beat their azzes without mercy if you want.

I could go deeper into this but I haven't got the time. I know some of you can add to this list and I am interested in seeing what comes up!

krupa's photo
Wed 12/22/10 10:31 AM
is there a reason this aint in politics?

People are people. Governments are the problem. I do not discuss religion or politics. I am here to enjoy myself. not concern myself with things that will not be changed.

kooldude4U78's photo
Wed 12/22/10 10:52 AM
100% correct China is the new Nazi's of the 21st Century only thing that protects us for now is the very weak global economy this prevents China from an all out aggression campaign, secondly the Chinese still havent found the proper balance between quality and profit in thier commercial manufacturing this means that a lot of thier industries are bleeding and will probably not survive a shakeout.
Lastly the Chinese cant drive for nuts and also known to be very poor pilots in any war they are going get thier tiny ***** whupped!

AndyBgood's photo
Wed 12/22/10 12:35 PM

is there a reason this aint in politics?

People are people. Governments are the problem. I do not discuss religion or politics. I am here to enjoy myself. not concern myself with things that will not be changed.


Going with the flow doesn't always allow problems to resolve. Sometimes people must get proactive. That and I like keeping the Mods on their toes.

Yeah mods I know, I do make you work. At least I have been trying to behave myself lately haven't I?

Now Cooldude a word of caution. The Chinese might not exactly be tall per say yet some of them are over 7 feet tall, underestimating them is a huge mistake. They are not stupid, and they especially are not timid or afraid. They are VERY calculating. What they are not is adaptive. They are still undergoing cultural upheavals and they are also having a huge problem, feeding their population.

Sadly their current government needs to fall from within and the UN needs to pull its collective head out of its collective azz!

boredinaz06's photo
Wed 12/22/10 01:18 PM


If China was a chick I'd bend her over and show her what for!

Bestinshow's photo
Wed 12/22/10 01:47 PM
Well its pretty clear to me Umerika is the new Nazi regime. One doesnt have to look verry hard to make an honest comparison. No country inclueding Nazi Germany has been in as many conflicts and wars. here is a short list.
20th Century

Boxer Rebellion, 1899 - 1901
Banana Wars:
United States occupation of Nicaragua, 1907-1933
United States occupation of Honduras, 1907-1933
United States overthrow of Guatemalan Government, 1907-1933
Intervention during Panamanian Election, 1908
United States occupation of Cuba, 1912
United States occupation of Veracruz, 1914
United States occupation of Haiti, 1915-1934
United States occupation of the Dominican Republic, 1917-1924
Mexican Expedition, 1916 - 1917
Battle of Ambros Nogales, 1918
World War I, 1917 – 1918 (time span of U.S. involvement)
European Theatre, 1917 - 1918
First Battle of the Atlantic, 1917 - 1918
Russian Revolution, 1918-1920 (time span of U.S. involvement)
Polar Bear Expedition, 1918 - 1919
American Expeditionary Force Siberia, Soviet Union, 1918 - 1920
World War II, 1941 – 1945 (time span of U.S. involvement)
Second Battle of the Atlantic, 1941 - 1945
Pacific War, 1941 - 1945
African Theatre, 1942 - 1943
European Theatre, 1944 - 1945
Korean War, 1950 - 1953
Operation Blue Bat, Lebanon, 1958
Bay of Pigs Invasion, Cuba, 1961
Operation Powerpack, Dominican Republic, 1965 - 1966
Vietnam War, 1962 - 1973 (time span of United States involvement)
Laotian Civil War, 1962 - 1973
Cambodian Civil War, 1969 - 1970
Contra War, El Salvador, 1981-1990
Invasion of Grenada, Grenada, 1983-1984
Iran–Iraq War, 1987 - 1989
United States invasion of Panama 1989 - 1990
Persian Gulf War, Iraq, 1991
Operation Desert Shield, 1991
Operation Desert Storm, 1991
Somali Civil War, 1992 - 1994
Operation Provide Relief, 1992
Operation Restore Hope, 1992 - 1994
Yugoslav wars, 1994 - 1999
Bosnian Conflict, 1994 - 1995
Kosovo Conflict, 1997 - 1999

21st Century

War on Terrorism, 2001 - present
Operation Enduring Freedom - Afghanistan 2001 - present
Operation Enduring Freedom - Philippines 2002 - present
Operation Enduring Freedom - Horn of Africa 2002 - present
Operation Iraqi Freedom, 2003 - present
War in North-West Pakistan, 2004 - present
War in Somalia, 2006 - 2009
Operation Enduring Freedom - Trans Sahara 2007 - present

Lets not forget how we started the Iraq war based on lies and propaganda.

davidben1's photo
Wed 12/22/10 02:06 PM
oh, there is no doubt that collective mankind is marching towards a world showdown, within the next two years.

it indeed will happen by 2012.

how can anything monitoring ALL the motives and actions and words and attitudes of all humans that exist, not access such.

the loss of human life will be catostrophic, and the world will march on back back back to primitve again, just as in all past days of human existence.

lest.

for when the only greatest fight comes to be who shall control and hold the most power, and who shall protect itself most from anything less than grand good for itself, there be no other options posssible to be created...

so, those idiots the myans, and those idiots that penned text, and those idiots that penned the torah, and those idiots that penned the hindue future, and those idiots that penned sientology, and those idiots that penned pyschology, and those idiots that penned science, will all be proven to be but a singular piece of the whole truth.

each spectrum and school of thought, was just to arrogant and filled with delusions of self truth as greatest, to even look.

never even looked to see how it ALL could be true, and fit together.

it seems the world discoving such is the only thing that has the power to change the current compass of humankind direction towards it's own mass destruction.


no photo
Wed 12/22/10 02:57 PM
Nazism was the ideology and practice of the Nazi Party and of Nazi Germany. It was a unique variety of fascism that involved racism and antisemitism. Nazism incorporated policies, tactics and philosophies from right ideologies...in practice, Nazism was a far right form of politics.

I don't know why people have to compare everything to nazism... perhaps only to strike fear into the hearts of citizens.

metalwing's photo
Wed 12/22/10 03:06 PM

Nazism was the ideology and practice of the Nazi Party and of Nazi Germany. It was a unique variety of fascism that involved racism and antisemitism. Nazism incorporated policies, tactics and philosophies from right ideologies...in practice, Nazism was a far right form of politics.

I don't know why people have to compare everything to nazism... perhaps only to strike fear into the hearts of citizens.



There are many valid comparisons as have been noted.

davidben1's photo
Wed 12/22/10 04:03 PM
all the labels of what a "form" of government, can be defined as, but totally hides what to protect against as NOT GOOD.

CONTROL FOR THE SAKE OF DEMANDED LOYALTY!

CONTROL FOR THE SAKE OF MONEY!

CONTROL FOR THE SAKE OF "SOME'S BEST INTEREST"!

CONTROL FOR THE SAKE OF "NO HURT FEELINGS"!

what leader is a good leader, WORTHY OF HOLDING THE FATE OF MILLIONS OF LIVES IN IT'S HANDS, IF ITSELF CAN BE "PERSONALLY HURT" BY WORDS.

IF IT CAN BE ENCITED TO ANGER, RAGE, REVENGE.

those are loose cannon's, who toy and decide millions of lives for the sake of their OWN EGO'S...

look at the basics, solve the complex.








AndyBgood's photo
Wed 12/22/10 06:16 PM

Well its pretty clear to me Umerika is the new Nazi regime. One doesnt have to look verry hard to make an honest comparison. No country inclueding Nazi Germany has been in as many conflicts and wars. here is a short list.
20th Century

Boxer Rebellion, 1899 - 1901
Banana Wars:
United States occupation of Nicaragua, 1907-1933
United States occupation of Honduras, 1907-1933
United States overthrow of Guatemalan Government, 1907-1933
Intervention during Panamanian Election, 1908
United States occupation of Cuba, 1912
United States occupation of Veracruz, 1914
United States occupation of Haiti, 1915-1934
United States occupation of the Dominican Republic, 1917-1924
Mexican Expedition, 1916 - 1917
Battle of Ambros Nogales, 1918
World War I, 1917 – 1918 (time span of U.S. involvement)
European Theatre, 1917 - 1918
First Battle of the Atlantic, 1917 - 1918
Russian Revolution, 1918-1920 (time span of U.S. involvement)
Polar Bear Expedition, 1918 - 1919
American Expeditionary Force Siberia, Soviet Union, 1918 - 1920
World War II, 1941 – 1945 (time span of U.S. involvement)
Second Battle of the Atlantic, 1941 - 1945
Pacific War, 1941 - 1945
African Theatre, 1942 - 1943
European Theatre, 1944 - 1945
Korean War, 1950 - 1953
Operation Blue Bat, Lebanon, 1958
Bay of Pigs Invasion, Cuba, 1961
Operation Powerpack, Dominican Republic, 1965 - 1966
Vietnam War, 1962 - 1973 (time span of United States involvement)
Laotian Civil War, 1962 - 1973
Cambodian Civil War, 1969 - 1970
Contra War, El Salvador, 1981-1990
Invasion of Grenada, Grenada, 1983-1984
Iran–Iraq War, 1987 - 1989
United States invasion of Panama 1989 - 1990
Persian Gulf War, Iraq, 1991
Operation Desert Shield, 1991
Operation Desert Storm, 1991
Somali Civil War, 1992 - 1994
Operation Provide Relief, 1992
Operation Restore Hope, 1992 - 1994
Yugoslav wars, 1994 - 1999
Bosnian Conflict, 1994 - 1995
Kosovo Conflict, 1997 - 1999

21st Century

War on Terrorism, 2001 - present
Operation Enduring Freedom - Afghanistan 2001 - present
Operation Enduring Freedom - Philippines 2002 - present
Operation Enduring Freedom - Horn of Africa 2002 - present
Operation Iraqi Freedom, 2003 - present
War in North-West Pakistan, 2004 - present
War in Somalia, 2006 - 2009
Operation Enduring Freedom - Trans Sahara 2007 - present

Lets not forget how we started the Iraq war based on lies and propaganda.


Now as far nation to nation as far as wars go Germany in General has just as rich a history in war a we do if you look past Nazi Germany and all of German history. Frankly America has likewise attempted Cultural genocide but we have seen the error in our ways. China on the other hand still tries to kill religion and free thinking as well as taking over countries and making the locals second class citizens. Also China falls far shorter on Civil rights violations than ALL "First World" countries. Still China's actions smack of global domination.

Fanta46's photo
Wed 12/22/10 09:48 PM

Nazism was the ideology and practice of the Nazi Party and of Nazi Germany. It was a unique variety of fascism that involved racism and antisemitism. Nazism incorporated policies, tactics and philosophies from right ideologies...in practice, Nazism was a far right form of politics.

I don't know why people have to compare everything to nazism... perhaps only to strike fear into the hearts of citizens.



Thank you for saying this.drinker

ValentinaSS's photo
Wed 12/22/10 10:27 PM
Edited by ValentinaSS on Wed 12/22/10 11:09 PM
The Nazis had an unmatched number of soldiers and enormous wealth and power???? No, there`s no comparison.
The Chinese may think that Americans might be too productive for extinction,,,,but u never know. The perceived enemy is different for everyone, but always distinct to the aggressor, no matter what the agenda

davidben1's photo
Wed 12/22/10 10:36 PM
if one is looking for what WILL BE CREATED, than it has to look at what be of the same motive, not what something else "looks like", for some comparison by EYESIGHT, for if one does not recognize what something is, before it looks the SAME BY EYESIGHT, than it HAS THEN ALREADY COME TO EXIST.

shocked

warmachine's photo
Thu 12/30/10 02:15 PM
Well, before we start pointing fingers, one should examine the history.
3 places "imported" National Socialism after WWII. Russia, a block of South America and of course the U.S.
Looking at the mix of corporate power and the way they seem to control the Government here, does that not make us Corporate Fascists?

AndyBgood's photo
Thu 12/30/10 07:47 PM

Well, before we start pointing fingers, one should examine the history.
3 places "imported" National Socialism after WWII. Russia, a block of South America and of course the U.S.
Looking at the mix of corporate power and the way they seem to control the Government here, does that not make us Corporate Fascists?


Maybe not as fascist as much as Elitist. Communism was the ultimate expression of Socialism. Nazi Germany was most definitely socialist. So was fascist Italy. China likewise is also still very much socialist. Even though the ideologies of both nations may be slightly different their actions are the same. China easily took over Tibet but they can't do the same to India. Why? India would put up WAY too much of a fight. Even India has a socialist streak a mile wide. Now, as we give nations their freedom like Panama China steps in and takes over. We 'liberate' (COUGH GASP WHEEZE) Iran and who gets the oil? And the UN kisses their asss so hard! No one has learned appeasement does not work!

DiveBomber4's photo
Thu 12/30/10 08:04 PM
Theres no doubt that China is pushing our buttons and looking for a conflict.
I recall a Chinese General in a TV interview saying that war with America was inevitable.

Why Americans continue to support them is beyond me.

Dragoness's photo
Thu 12/30/10 08:12 PM
The answer to the question in the OP is no.

DiveBomber4's photo
Thu 12/30/10 08:28 PM
I would'nt compare the Chinese to the Nazi's. They are their own brand of aggressor.

Bestinshow's photo
Fri 12/31/10 08:39 AM

Theres no doubt that China is pushing our buttons and looking for a conflict.
I recall a Chinese General in a TV interview saying that war with America was inevitable.

Why Americans continue to support them is beyond me.
Most businesses in China have a US international as their partner. It usualy comes down to a company that is western based that owns 45% of t he stock and the Chinease owning 55%. China is truly international and you can blame the US for building them up.

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