This is the antithesis of the idea that God's creation is "Good".

This mentality causes people to look at life and creation as a waste of time. Why care about the future of this life? Why care about saving planet Earth? On the contrary the sooner this life is over the soon you can be in your eternal heaven.

This kind of mentality causes people to solely focus on some imagined afterlife at the COST of forfeiting the ACTUAL life that we were actually given.

This mentality suggests that you do not appreciate God's creation at all, you do not appreciate life on Earth, and you're standing in line at the complaint department demanding something BETTER.

an omnipotent being is what god is supposed to be..... don`t call your god 'he',,,that`s an insult!!!

That is because "children" won't burn in hell or anything. Children are innocent for they do not know "right from wrong". They have not had the chance to either give their heart to God or not.

Way to miss the point. If we are all God's children, whether actual children or adults, it's not very loving of a parent to treat us in this manner. How can you learn anything if you there is no chance to say sorry again?

You have your entire life to learn. More obedient you are to our father then more we are blessed by our father. Thus if you're not getting any blessings from God then that should teach you right there you're doing something wrong to not deserve what you ask of, thus our punishment for disobedience if you will.

You have your entire life to learn. More obedient you are to our father then more we are blessed by our father. Thus if you're not getting any blessings from God then that should teach you right there you're doing something wrong to not deserve what you ask of, thus our punishment for disobedience if you will.

That's down here though. There are consequences born into this life, that come from our choices, including separating ourselves from God. However what happens here should be separate from what happens after we leave here. It's cruel of a loving God to.....once we actually have seen Him, whether we believed or not down or here, and whether we did more good then bad or not, to punish us forever with no chance of any forgiveness.

All I can say is better make the right choice then. Life is shorter then people think it is.

How can you defend something like this though? If your were a parent, and a child of yours had done so many bad things, but once seeing your love came back to you in forgiveness and contriteness for any damage done, would you not take him/her back? I'm sure you would, and yet God who is more loving then we wouldn't??

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How can you defend something like this though? If your were a parent, and a child of yours had done so many bad things, but once seeing your love came back to you in forgiveness and contriteness for any damage done, would you not take him/her back? I'm sure you would, and yet God who is more loving then we wouldn't??

The Christians thrive off of a hateful God. That's what keeps their religious bigotry alive. Without a hateful God they wouldn't be able to threaten people with their religious bigotry.

A jealous hateful God is the heart and soul of Christianity.

He's their Holy Demon.

Without him they have nothing to beat people over the head with.

God is not hateful nor do we threaten anyone with our beliefs.

We get threatened with the idea of hell and damnation surely, if we dare to think different.

And BTW, it is possible to believe in God, and not believe in a book claiming to be His word. Just saying.

Hell isn't a threat my friend. For even as believers we do not know whom will go to heaven or will not make it. We have no right to tell you that you're going to burn in hell for not believing for heck that person may not even make it to heaven. Faith without works is dead and vise versa. Just because someone believes in the father doesn't mean they'll make it to heaven. So these people telling you and or trying to scare you with hell is possibly in danger themselves.

And BTW, it is possible to believe in God, and not believe in a book claiming to be His word. Just saying.

Hell isn't a threat my friend. For even as believers we do not know whom will go to heaven or will not make it. We have no right to tell you that you're going to burn in hell for not believing for heck that person may not even make it to heaven. Faith without works is dead and vise versa. Just because someone believes in the father doesn't mean they'll make it to heaven. So these people telling you and or trying to scare you with hell is possibly in danger themselves.

Not quite. You more so believe in the possibility of a god it seems, rather then believing in the father himself in exacts. Because if you don't believe in his word, you would then not believe in what it tells about him, and that would say you don't believe in him for that is all the information we have about him.

See above as to that, and I don't agree either. One can definitely believe God exists, and not believe in a book that is CLAIMED to be His word, not that it really is. All the information we are told about God comes from man, keep that in mind.

It seems like a threat though invented by man to keep us in line and control. You may not agree with that, but that's how I'm beginning to see it.

Secondly, I would like to know why or how believing in a book that is claimed by man to be from God, makes one any better or closer to God then one who doesn't believe that. Isn't it assuming a bit much to think that way, as if they know another's personal journey and relationship with the almighty? For all they know, they may even be closer to God then they are.

Yes handed down documents of history with incidents with God. So yes you can believe in the possibility of a God without the information in the bible. But it's impossible to believe in God but not the God in the bible, kind of an oxymoron actually.