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Topic: Anchor Brats and Interpreting the 14th Amendment
willing2's photo
Fri 11/19/10 11:22 AM
"In 1994, Alma Meza Guitierrez travelled hundreds of miles with her
three year old son through Mexico and across the U.S. border in order
to reach her aunt and uncle's small apartment in San Diego. She lives
in squalid conditions in the apartment's kitchen, she does not speak
English and has little prospects for employment. Why would a 20-
year-old mother of one give up her life in Mexico to endure such
circumstances? Alma is pregnant and she, like thousands of other
women who enter the United States illegally each year, knows that
giving birth in the U.S. means her child will be an "anchor baby" and
granted U.S. citizenship. For Alma, that means her child will immedi-
ately qualify for a slew of federal, state and local benefit programs.
In addition, when Alma's child turns 21, he can sponsor the immigra-
tion of other members of the Guitierrez clan."

"Born In the USA" San Diego Union-Tribune, Feb. 20, 1994.Anchor Babies and Interpreting the 14th Amendment

It is well known that a person born in the United States is an automatic citizen regardless of the mother's citizenship status. However, the United States is unusual in its offer of citizenship to anyone born on U.S. soil. Only a few European countries still grant automatic citizenship at birth. The United Kingdom and Australia repealed their U.S. style policy in the 1980s after witnessing abuses similar to those plaguing the U.S. today. Why does the United States continue to allow a practice subject to widespread fraud? The answer lies in how American jurisprudence has interpreted the 14th Amendment to the Constitution.

The 14th Amendment was added to the Constitution as part of the post Civil War reforms aimed at addressing injustices to African Americans. It states that "all persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof are citizens of the United States" and was crafted so that state governments could never deny citizenship to anyone born in the United States. However, when the amendment was crafted, the United States had no immigration policy, and thus the authors saw no need to state explicitly, what they believed was understood. The phrase "subject to the jurisdiction thereof" was intended to exclude from automatic citizenship American-born persons whose allegiance to the United States was not complete. In the case of illegal aliens who are temporarily or unlawfully in the United States, because their native country has a claim of allegiance to the child, the completeness of the allegiance to the United States is impaired and logically precludes automatic citizenship.

"Every Person born within the limits of the United States, and subject to their jurisdiction, is by virtue of natural law and national law a citizen of the United States. This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers accredited to the Government of the United States, but will include every other class of persons.
Senator Jacob Howard, Co-author of the citizenship clause of the 14th Amendment, 1866.
The Price We Pay

* The Urban Institute estimates that the cost of educating an estimated 800,000 illegal alien school children in the nation's seven states with the highest concentration of illegals was $3.1 billion in 1993 (extrapolated to $4.6 billion in 1996 by FAIR), but this estimate does not at all take into account the additional costs of bilingual education or other special educational needs.
* It is estimated that the number of children born to illegal aliens each year is 165,000. This figure is based on the crude birth rate of the total foreign-born population (33 birth per 1000) and the size of the illegal alien population (five million).
* In 1994, California paid for 74,987 deliveries to illegal alien mothers, at a total cost of $215.2 million (an average of $2,842 per delivery). Illegal alien mothers accounted for 36 percent of all Medi-Cal funded births in California that year.

What This All Means and What Can Be Done

Higher Taxes: The federal government has control over immigration law for the United States. By not addressing this abuse, the funds that state and local governments must provide to anchor babies amounts to a virtual tax on U.S. citizens to subsidize illegal aliens.

Disrespect for the rule of law: By not closing this loophole, the federal government in effect rewards law-breakers and punishes those who have chosen to follow the rules and immigrate legally. Allowing illegal aliens to give birth to American citizens, in effect, makes citizenship a license for welfare. [Peter Brimelow. National Review, April 7, 1997.]

The present guarantee under American law of automatic birthright citizenship to the children of illegal aliens can operate...as one more incentive to illegal migration and violation by nonimmigrant aliens already here[.] When this attraction is combined with the powerful lure of the expanded entitlements conferred upon citizen children and their families by the modern welfare state, the total incentive effect of birthright citizenship may well become significant.
Profs. Peter Schuck and Rogers Smith, "Consensual Citizenship," Chronicles, July 1992.

Congressional action warranted: The 14th Amendment stipulates that Congress has the power to enforce its provisions by enactment of legislation and the power to enforce a law is necessarily accompanied by the authority to interpret that law. Therefore, an act of Congress stating its interpretation of the 14th Amendment, as not to include the offspring of illegal aliens, would fall within Congress's prerogative.

[FAIR supports legislation introduced into the current Congress to change the automatic conferral of citizenship to children of illegal aliens. See the Legislative Update page for H.R.7 by Rep Brian Bilbray (R-CA) and H.R.346 by Rep Bob Stump (R-AZ). An excellent description of the issue written by Rep. Bilbray was published by the San Diego Union-Tribune on August 17, 1997. Bilbray Op-Ed]

FAIR, 8/97.

Hopefully, it will pass this time around.

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boredinaz06's photo
Fri 11/19/10 11:50 AM



So do I, this would be the best thing congress has done in a long, long time.

willing2's photo
Fri 11/19/10 11:56 AM
The only folks who wouldn't want to see it pass are;
Illegals
Their brats
Businesses who hire them
Folks who hate America.

boredinaz06's photo
Fri 11/19/10 12:01 PM



That's exactly rightdrinker

msharmony's photo
Fri 11/19/10 12:03 PM

The only folks who wouldn't want to see it pass are;
Illegals
Their brats
Businesses who hire them
Folks who hate America.



I dont think its about hate. I think its about logic vs emotionalism. I think there are people who want things to be equal in spite of laws and in spite of ethics. They want all children to have perfect lives that the community provides instead of wanting parents to be held accountable to laws in CONCORDANCE with taking care of their children. They want someone who cant dance to have as much chance at winning a dance competition as those who are excellent dancers. They want those people who go through the trouble to obey the law to be seen as no more deserving than those who disregard it. ITs a desire for blind equality without consideration of the details that confuses the issue. Throw in children and people get emotional instead of logical,, in my opinion.

I love children. I am an american who had an american child and MY home(america) is her home. ..period.

If I wished for her home to be in another country I would respect the laws of that country to set an example for her. I would go through the LEGAL immigration process to set an example for her. I would then have children there who could be proud that their parent thought enough to give them a truly secure life where they werent looking over their shoulder or risking being separated instead of giving them a life where at any time their parents might be CAUGHT and taken out of their life. I would never use my children as a BARTERING chip to get sympathy for breaking the law.

willing2's photo
Fri 11/19/10 01:18 PM
I see a banner on top of the page about Illegals claiming they are America.grumble

What a joke.laugh laugh laugh

willing2's photo
Fri 11/19/10 05:40 PM
Edited by willing2 on Fri 11/19/10 05:51 PM

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Fri 11/19/10 05:45 PM
hm.
i wonder which category i fit into.

FearandLoathing's photo
Fri 11/19/10 05:46 PM
Illegals coming to America...much like the English making the venture to America, we didn't fill out the appropriate documents, we should all rot in this prison country.

Welcome to the largets prison system, the United States. Would you like a meal with that? We offer McDonald's and Burger King, what? Too much fat? Nah, we have scientists under our piggy bank that will tell you it is healthy, drugs? No way, drugs are for losers...prison sentence - 30 years to life.

Yeah, the United States...prison and fatty food, don't forget media hypocrisy and shady as hell politics. Fair? Haha, no, not quite, but if you give me enough money I can make anything happen. Capitalism? Nah, this is Democracy/hypocrisy.

I hope this country burns long and slow when it goes up in flames.

willing2's photo
Fri 11/19/10 05:49 PM

hm.
i wonder which category i fit into.

Are your parents Illegals?

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Fri 11/19/10 05:50 PM
obviously.

willing2's photo
Fri 11/19/10 05:53 PM
Then, they need to be deported.

If, they report for voluntary deportation, they can apply for a green card.

If, they are busted, they could have to wait ten years to apply.

If, either has a felony in either country, they will not be allowed reentry.

If, they are busted, you could be charged as an accomplice and imprisoned.

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Fri 11/19/10 05:57 PM
haha.
you're ridiculous.

willing2's photo
Fri 11/19/10 06:03 PM
Edited by willing2 on Fri 11/19/10 06:05 PM

haha.
you're ridiculous.

How is that?
That's what is supposed to happen if one or both your parents are Illegal.

FearandLoathing's photo
Fri 11/19/10 06:03 PM

haha.
you're ridiculous.


Welcome to America...

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Fri 11/19/10 06:08 PM
it's ridiculous that you explained my "options."

willing2's photo
Fri 11/19/10 06:10 PM

it's ridiculous that you explained my "options."


You are of legal age.
You could decide to stay or go with them.

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Fri 11/19/10 06:13 PM
i think we're all staying here.
hell.
i wasn't born here.

willing2's photo
Fri 11/19/10 06:26 PM

i think we're all staying here.
hell.
i wasn't born here.

Well, are your parents Illegals?

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Fri 11/19/10 06:31 PM
didn't you already ask that.

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