I guess networks are getting the better of our beloved govt. to the point they want to silence those who oppose them. Alright people come defend and besmirch these two "news" channels.








http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2010/11/17/sen_rockefeller_fcc_should_take_fox_news_msnbc_off_airwaves.html

Such entities are protected under the law. I do wish however, that a law would be passed that would force "news" to be unbiased. These are propaganda mills, not news... many folks simple do not know that.

You hit that one right on target , propapanda mills is on the lighter side of what there doing to these poor souls who feed into it.

I don't think that is possible. Since humans (with their own thoughts and feelings) are reporters, then whether they realize it or not, most of the time their own bias comes out.

As far as MSNBC or FOX....I take all media with a grain of salt and I make up my own mind. But they are entitled to report things. If there is slander, then there are laws to protect against that.

Not all speech is protected under the 1st amendment.

BTW opinions don't necessarily mean slander

No, I disagree. Not all humans are reporters, much less news outlets. NEWS are supposed to be facts. Thats the difference between propaganda and news.

Yes we all have opinions. Yes we all form opinions. However, propaganda is used to usurp your freedom of choice. It is slanted so as to produce a disred result.

"BTW opinions don't necessarily mean slander"

I dont think anyone here said they do.

I actually wasn't saying anyone thought opinions were slander. I was just being more specific since I was talking about that not everything is protected under the 1st amendment.

Ok...let's take just the facts. Who would want to read a paper that lists only the facts? Humans will either consciously or sub consciously report with their slants.

I didn't mean to imply all humans were reporters Maybe I should have said all reporters are humans?

The only way propaganda can usurp your freedom of choice is if you let it. There are slants on all sides and it's up to the individual to believe what they want.

Who decides what is propaganda and what is just a reporter's input?

Egads already! Why is the Rock furthering this myth that POX is legitimate news? MSNBC, sure it's liberal but they report facts and seasoned opinion. They have award winning jouranlists, economists and others who contribute to the shows. POX is just a Big Corp/GOP/T-bagging shill machine...pure propaganda.

Rockefeller is FOS...he must be senile or something.

I want a smarter population in which a shallow media could not prosper enough to maintain itself

but its easier to go after the back end of the problem instead of attacking it from the front...

Nice comment!!!!

It is possible, in every story there are absolute facts and those facts are what should be reported. Anything else a reporter does must come after a disclaimer that it is an opinion piece and nothing more.

Truthfully it wouldn't bother me in the slightest if BSNBC was taken off the air, that channel is nothing but a wretched hive of scum and villainy.

Only Socialists want censorship.
LSBNBC does have their token Madcow.

this is what I'm talking about though. Who decides what is true or not? I'm sure every source has slants. Human nature pretty much. Not many would watch or read it if it was strictly the facts without a personal touch on it. Some just touch on it harder than others.

Some people say FOX news is propaganda but MSNBC is ok and some say the reverse.

Who is to decide for us who to listen to?

I can read or listen to anyone but I am a big girl and what they say doesn't mean I will believe every word.

Some people are can take just the facts and some believe everything that is said.

I for one don't want anyone telling me what news source to read/listen to

No, either a country is trying to develop nuclear weapons or they are not. Those would be facts.

Yes that would be a fact, but (as I have said) no one would be interested without the who, how, where, when and why's that can be opinions.

But even the facts aren't necessarily facts. Take the "truthers" or "birthers"

They believe one thing as fact and other sources show their own facts of why that isn't true.

Or even WMD in Iraq. We are still having debates on that.

The media is in it for money. the more viewers/readers they have, the more successful they are.

Who would watch something that lists only the facts as if you were in an algebra class in school?

That is my whole point.

It's for the readers/viewers to decide for themselves.

i agree... i wouldn't lose any sleep if they got rid of them... but it could be bloomberg or cnn paying people up there off too...

we are slowly turning into the movie idioacracy....

We have already seen examples of "one size fits all" news. It was called Nazi Germany.

Yea, well they forget themselves sometimes. Freedom of press is still alive and well.

But they could file something in court to make Fox News Channel call themselves what they are. "Fox Satirical Rightwing Almost Humor Designed to Ignite Fears and Hatred".