Cern, home of the LHC, (world's largest collider) is finally up and running at full power. Scientists are geared up to find proof of the type that was not thought possible only a few years ago. M theory is about to be tested in a small way with more to come later.

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Physicists Eye Parallel Universe, Extra Dimensions Breakthrough


Physicists probing the origins of the cosmos hope that next year they will turn up the first proofs of the existence of concepts long dear to science-fiction writers such as hidden worlds and extra dimensions.

And as their Large Hadron Collider (LHC) at CERN near Geneva moves into high gear, they are talking increasingly of the "New Physics" on the horizon that could totally change current views of the universe and how it works.

"Parallel universes, unknown forms of matter, extra dimensions... These are not the stuff of cheap science fiction but very concrete physics theories that scientists are trying to confirm with the LHC and other experiments."

This was how the "ideas" men and women in the international research center's Theory Group, which mulls over what could be out there beyond the reach of any telescope, put it in CERN's staff-targeted Bulletin this month.

As particles are collided in the vast underground LHC complex at increasingly high energies, what the Bulletin article referred to informally as the "universe's extra bits" -- if they do exist as predicted -- should be brought into computerized, if ephemeral, view, the theorists say.

Optimism among the hundreds of scientists working at CERN -- in the foothills of the Jura mountains along the border of France and Switzerland -- has grown as the initially troubled $10 billion experiment hit its targets this year.

PROTON COLLISIONS

By mid-October, Director-General Rolf Heuer told staff last weekend, protons were being collided along the 27-km (16.8 mile) subterranean ring at the rate of 5 million a second -- two weeks earlier than the target date for that total.

By next year, collisions will be occurring -- if all continues to go well -- at a rate producing what physicists call one "inverse femtobarn," best described as a colossal amount, of information for analysts to ponder.

The head-on collisions, at all but the speed of light, recreate what happened a tiny fraction of a second after the primeval "Big Bang" 13.7 billion years ago which brought the known universe and everything in it into being.

Despite centuries of increasingly sophisticated observation from planet Earth, only 4 per cent of that universe is known -- because the rest is made up of what have been called, because they are invisible, dark matter and dark energy.

Billions of particles flying off from each LHC collision are tracked at four CERN detectors -- and then in collaborating laboratories around the globe -- to establish when and how they come together and what shapes they take.

The CERN theoreticians say this could give clear signs of dimensions beyond length, breadth, depth and time because at such high energy particles could be tracked disappearing -- presumably into them -- and then back into the classical four.

Parallel universes could also be hidden within these dimensions, the thinking goes, but only in a so-called gravitational variety in which light cannot be propagated -- a fact which would make it nearly impossible to explore them.

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It really is freaking exciting.
The ramifications..

If there are indeed more "dimensions" of reality.. it would seem logical to assume there are an infinite number.. what do you guys think?

Depending upon how you look at it, M theory would produce an infinite amount but, perhaps only one hyperspace.

This is one of my favorite little vids staring Mickio Kaku giving an explanation.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xE7xRgfPjAI

Interesting concept. I actually saw this video on television.. It's all good in theory, but I am still yet to be convinced that there is any solid evidence pointing in this direction.

In my opinion, the universe is so fine-tuned to support sustainable matter that any other universes will be completely and fully identical to this one.

Of course that is just my theory and I have no proof either, but my opinion can always change.

Watch these idiots open a gateway to the Netherworld!




I had better dust off my copy of the Necronomicon! Where exactly did I put my ceremonial robes?



Better keep your hands away from the mouth. My book is a nibbler!

Sweet...finally gonna meet some Black Lectroids by way of The 8th Dimension.

All joking aside, this is one of the biggest scientific events in the history of humanity.

I guess it just can't compete with Prince William's wedding.

so with the video and what you pasted...it's meaning is 2 membranes collided to create enough energy to make matter which in turned created the universe we see,but the 2 membranes are actually parallel universes with different matter and dimensions?

i read something also where space was mostly antimatter and an electrical charge occured producing enough energy to create matter which in turn mixed with the antimatter and BOOM it started a chain of energy which kept creating matter then finally matter over took antimatter

The two membranes colliding is a offshoot of the current M theory. This is the version of physics that has gradually taken over as the predominate theory of "how everything works"., including the big bang.

Some have claimed that the theory couldn't be tested because we can't look into other dimensions. However the tests described at CERN are designed to create matter, just like in a small big bang, and watch what comes out. If something comes out then disappears into another dimension, then we have actual evidence that the other dimensions exist.

i always read matter cannot be created or destroyed, just rearranged...

I haven't heard of that theory. I read about the big bang possibly creating almost equal amounts of antimatter and matter. After the two got finished annihilating each other there was only a tiny amount of matter left, which is everything we see in the cosmos now. One of the purposes of CERN is to create tiny "big bangs" and see what pops out.

i guess if you believe the big bang theory, which i don't, it might work... but maybe the world will still be here after they are done.

oh ok yeah i seen that yeah they collide atoms and see if matter appears then disappears wondering where it goes which means a possible other dimension,ok yeah the video and your paste had me a little confused,i got it now

actually there are some disputes about the E=mc2 formula,basically energy creates matter

yea, he might be wrong about light speed and time travel too...

i've read that too,to be honest theres alot of theories runnin around out there

No, the theory you are referring to is about energy not being created or destroyed, just rearranged. We destroy matter in atomic bombs and use what was destroyed to make the explosion. E=MC**2

CERN, and others like them, destroy matter to make energy to make more matter and just to see what happens.

The newer theories on dark energy and the expansion of space are blurring some of the old theories.

but if you do really think about it,where does the matter thats created in those test go,it does disappear which is kind of interesting