Any work that does not fully agree with the works before it contains with its walls falseness. Though the foundation of the New Testement is solid the walls that have been built upon that foundation are made of mans works.

I can see the falsness and therefore that portion of the bible to me is suspect.

Of course there are places in it which through circular logic place Jesus(as the Church needs him for their physical means) on the Seat of God. This I see as a falsness for there is but one God and no man can assume his place. Any Church that claims a man has assumed the place of God is teaching the doctrine of falsness for they have put a commandment of God in shadow by claiming this.

THOU SHALT HAVE NO GOD BEFORE ME.

A_Midsummers_Dream,

I won't allow TLW to tell me what a bad Christian I am, I've allowed him to get away with that for too long. I KNOW I have sin in my heart, but I also know that I try REALLY hard to be a good person. So thank you for the advice, I disagree with everything you said and I will never agree with you on that statement. I am very tolerant, but I'm not going to let a Christian attack me unfairly.

hilarious, now I'm attacking
anybody other than Mr. Spider would tell me please where in my words do u find any attack against him whatsoever?

I can say JC is an Abomination. But can you say Yahshua was not the son and Yahweh the father. Better read what he said about what you can not be forgiven for. Only the sin against the Holy Spirit. And where does it reside?

Ex 20:7
"You shall not take the name of YHWH your Elohim in vain, for YHWH will not hold him guiltless( sinless) who takes His name in vain.
NKJV

OT:7723

OT:7723 aw=v* shav' (shawv); or shav (shav); from the same as OT:7722 in the sense of desolating; evil (as destructive), literally (ruin) or morally (especially guile); figuratively idolatry (as false, subjective), uselessness (as deceptive, objective; also adverbially, in vain):


KJV - false (-ly), lie, lying, vain, vanity.
(Biblesoft's New Exhaustive Strong's Numbers and Concordance with Expanded Greek-Hebrew Dictionary. Copyright © 1994, 2003 Biblesoft, Inc. and International Bible Translators, Inc.)
Miles

TLW thank you for your post defining your interpretation. I still have to keep Jesus and God separate tough. Rather than being one and the same, I interpret this as the light of pure spirit and total life of the word/God emanating through Jesus as he has attained that pureness of spirit by living/breathing the true word.

TheLonelyWalker said "well my brother u r being extremely bias."

I wasn't biased in my post, so that's just silly.

TheLonelyWalker said "i'm just being open minded, and doing what the Lord tells me to do: "love your brothers in the same way you would like to be loved."

If you are open minded, then I'm...?

If you are doing what the Lord told you to do, what am I doing?

That's just from this thread. You do this sort of thing frequently.

Miles: I'm confused.
Diff: I stand in my position Jesus and God are one, and only one.
I like a phrase in City of Angels with Nicholas Cage and the always gorgeous Meg Ryan: "Some things are true whether you believe them or not."
You have the right to stand in your position.
I have the duty to explain my position maybe it will stay in ur mind and maybe someday down the road, it can help you see what I'm seeing now.

TLW

I saw no attacks from TLW to spider.

I did see one post about judjeing but I can not see how that could be taken as an attack.

Spider if you took those things you quoted as direct attacks on you I would wonder if paranioa was present.

TLW
Miles: I'm confused


I will explain my position but can u help with what u are confused about?.. Blessings ... Miles

my basic confusion is what point are you trying to accomplish?
are u trying to say that Jesus committed the only sin which can not be forgiven?
i don't want to say anything further because i may be wrong in my interpretation

AdventureBegins,

You seem like a nice guy, but I'm nice and smart.

See that! That's an insult. Get it? If someone says "I'm just trying to do what God tells me to do..." then that means you AREN'T trying to do what God tells you. It's a back handed insult, it's an insult that isn't presented as an insult.

Just because I'm paranoid, that doesn't mean they aren't trying to get me.

TLW, you are most welcome to your position, as I am to mine. This, I enjoy with your posts.

My my my.

With those intrepretation skills any thing anyone says that does not agree with your intrepretation of anything can be construed as an insult, nay a very attack on your awesome person.

Even when their post is not directed at you but out to the public in general.

TLW
I used to try to be soft with this subject. like a dove. What I am saying is our Savior was a Hebrew had a hebrew name. Said he came in his fathers name. Yahweh. Yah is the family name as in EliYah. in John 5:43 Yahshua speaks of another comming in his own name.
John 5:43
I am come in my Father's name, and ye receive me not: if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive.
KJV

JC has come in his own name. The world has accepted this name. This makes his name an abomination. What I had quoted before shows what the word VAIN really means. And it has happened.
YHWH was replaced in the old testament alone 6900 times. Being translated LORD for YHWH Yahweh. His name is the most spoken about subject in the bible.... Hope that helps.. Blessings... Miles

Humor Spider, Nice, seriously, nice.

AdventureBegins,

Um...His posts were directed at me. I know that because he started with with "Spider..."

miles my brother u have science to explain ur point
but the God I believe is above it.
You have shown science, but my belief is strong enough.
I'll keep my position God and JesusChrist are one and only one..
thank you for the explanation

DifferentKindOfWench

"I still have to keep Jesus and God separate tough. Rather than being one and the same, I interpret this as the light of pure spirit and total life of the word/God emanating through Jesus as he has attained that pureness of spirit by living/breathing the true word."

A challenge to the way I think, yet an interpertation I finally understood, and one of the first non insulting posts I've read in the last half hour. Thank you. I now can begin to undertand the point of view of someone I have recently exchanged words with.

Truly,
MSD

YW TLW..
Study. Anything worth doing is worth studing it.. Blessings .. Miles

Please look up the word Elohim in the Bible. This should explain it. It is a hebrew word. Thanks