cant say this is a relationship for its freaken not
i had called my ex hubby up a few weeks back to get his address for im planing on sending him a pic of my son but i havent got the pic taken yet as i might wait untill next month to do so

well hes been calling almost every freaken day. im sure he hasent told his wife... i actually talked to him today for a hour... he the same person as before hes not going to change
he even had enough nerve to ask me if there a charter bus (instead of greyhound) that would come into town so he can visit.. i told him he would have to check into that for im sure.. you think im stupid enough to check that.. heck nooooooo!!!!!!!

geeze when my son was in the hospitol a little over 2yrs ago and we didnt know if he was going to make it.. i had haress his dad to come down to see him. he also brought his wife and daughter and i sware his daughter had more freaken brains than he did

i can still say he has no brains

he must have had some brains at some point, because he was smart enough to get with a beautiful lady.

well thank you

many that had been around him or dated him were blind
i was for 2yrs to let him play the field
he cheated before during and after we got married
i put up with his crap for 2yrs before we got married and we didnt even celebrate our first annerversary together

and he been with his 2nd wife for over 20yrs
and i can say she really doesnt know him

hmmm, sounds to me like you stirred the pot... let sleeping dogs lay... (or lie, whatever)... you get the point..

$.02

excuse me!!! i didnt make his a''ss cheat he thought he was gods gift to woman and he still thinks that

i didnt stir the pot on him constantly calling i only called him once to get his address so i couldn send him a pic of his son

but yet i dont feel he even deserves that. but eventually he going to meet him.. what i mean is the last time he saw his son was when he was 2yrs old when we were going through our divoce and the last time was a little over 2yrs ago when i haraess him to come down to the hospitol
geeeze he doesnt live that far away but hes still in my eyes a dang dead beat dad...... my son has spoken to him on the phone a few times over the yrs and wants to meet him..... but he hasent mention that lately

This.

*chips in another $.02*

I have to be honest here. Based on your writings I think you are in fact enabling and borderline allowing this behavior. If you are so sure that he will never change, why did you engage in an hour conversation with him? When he brought up coming to see you via charter bus, you should've pounced all over him telling him he should check with his wife and that by no means is that a good idea. Believe it or not you are just as guilty as he is in this situation. You as a parent need to take the drivers seat here. If your son wants to see his dad then that is up to him. I'm getting the impression that he is old enough to speak for himself when it comes to this issue, although I am unsure of your sons age. If the child is under the age of 16 then you as a parent need to decide if this man is a good influence on your son. Does he pay support? Has he made any effort to build and maintain a relationship with his son? If these questions are answered with a no then I think what you need to do is obvious. I never met my father at all and I'm 25. My mother took the drivers seat and declared, " No support, NO ACCESS!!!!" I think this is quite an easy situation to figure out. He wants a piece of ***....not a family. My concern is that you don't see this. Assert yourself, and do what is right for the child....not you or him. If your relationship with him didn't work the first time, you can bet your bottom dollar it wont work the second time. People can change, but you should be of the opinion that you only come around once. HE missed the boat....Any other attitude on this issue will confuse and mislead your son. Best of luck and I hope this helped.

my son is a 23yrs old but to let you know hes a specal needs child with a mind capcity of a 12yr old (hes my pride and joy) as i had mention my son had talked to him over the years which based on health questions. 5yrs ago my son was admted in the hopsitol where we learned he inhearted gasritis from his dad and his gndma(his dads mom)
that when he actually had talked to his dad the first time. and he had called later on after my son was home and he talked to him for a brief... you think he would make the effort to visit him .. no.. the only time came to see him was when he was in the hospitol this last time (over 2yrs ago ) when i harassing him for we didnt know if my son was going to make it... my son was admited in the hospitol with phnomia where he went into cardic arrest where they had 3 doc that had to revive him. not only did he have pnonmina but issue with his heart lungs nad only kidney.. after me harssing his dad for 3days he finaly came down and brought his wife and daughter...
my son didnt know that his dad was there for we were told not to overwhelm my son was on lifesupport for a week and in the hospitol a total for 3weeks (now would you tell a child that was in that state oh by the way your dad is here) i dont think so..... we still didnt tell him for we dont want to cause any issue with any of his health
as for his wife i actually called her number first for not knowing he had his own cell phone so she knew i called for she must had given him my number.. but i will admit if he has any plans on coming down and lets me know in advance im going to tell her.. for i dont trust him i know who he is..i told him if he wants to come down he better see his son..... and yes i have warned his wife before they got married and she didnt belive me...
he told her that i burned his clothese..... that was a total lie
he also told her that he threw me down the stairs THAT NEVER HAPPEN!!!!!!! only person that ever fell down the stairs was this little girl i was babysitting for....... (hes nothing but a freaken luyer...... and his child suuport for my son well he hasent paid in 2months and according to child support when i called hes not working but according to the paper i got in the mail yesterday from the courts he still is..... and yea im going to call tomorrow

My advice...walk away before this situation does you in. Obviously the father wants not much to do with the child, it hurts, it sucks, it happens every single day to numerous people of differing circumstances. You aren't doing your self any good by stressing yourself over a situation that obviously cannot be changed.

Either learn to walk away, or the stress of it alone will put you in an early grave.

i walked away from him yrs ago.. why else do you think i divorced him. for i know that he would NEVER change
he doesnt care about any of his freaken kids
mind you he has 6kids

when i kicked him out of the house the 4th and last time his half brother intorduced him to this one girl and they were together for awhile they also had a child, while he was still with her he cheated on her with his 2nd wife. and he had told her that we were already divorced which we were not... they also had a child with is now 20yrs old as for his other kids if im correct there all in there 20s my son is the oldest...... stressing myself from him never, i learned he wasent worth that

I honestly don't care about the story of why or what happened. You are obviously stressing out about it, I'm just putting my two cents into this conversation.

Just ask him for a mailing address lovey and mail a pic...that way you have no contact and cant get sucked into anything ...I would also block his phone#

i have his address and i plan on sending a pic when i get one taken