Topic: Jesus Christ returns, walks on water!
RKISIT's photo
Sun 10/17/10 08:11 PM
cowboy let your god explain gravitational singularity

let your god tell me how fast the event horizon around a blackhole is going...did he guess 3,000,000 miles per hour


let your god explain how a pulsar is so dense that spoonfuls weight is in the tons

let your god explain the theory of relativity by einstien

let your god explain that if gravitional singularity wasn't real then how did he become...oh here comes the frat house answers

also how come your god can't and didn't answer the most unanswered question ever,other planets?

also ask your god how come a proton star collapses on itself then it becomes a blackhole which in a nebula the gases and matter in it become a galaxy

let me guess it isn't important as long as we don't question him,but i did and nothing




AndyBgood's photo
Sun 10/17/10 08:14 PM
Let us pray to our scaly savior!

CowboyGH's photo
Sun 10/17/10 08:16 PM

cowboy let your god explain gravitational singularity

let your god tell me how fast the event horizon around a blackhole is going...did he guess 3,000,000 miles per hour


let your god explain how a pulsar is so dense that spoonfuls weight is in the tons

let your god explain the theory of relativity by einstien

let your god explain that if gravitional singularity wasn't real then how did he become...oh here comes the frat house answers

also how come your god can't and didn't answer the most unanswered question ever,other planets?

also ask your god how come a proton star collapses on itself then it becomes a blackhole which in a nebula the gases and matter in it become a galaxy

let me guess it isn't important as long as we don't question him,but i did and nothing






Why would i ask him any of that? None of that is of any importance whatsoever.

RKISIT's photo
Sun 10/17/10 08:17 PM
Edited by RKISIT on Sun 10/17/10 08:18 PM


cowboy let your god explain gravitational singularity

let your god tell me how fast the event horizon around a blackhole is going...did he guess 3,000,000 miles per hour


let your god explain how a pulsar is so dense that spoonfuls weight is in the tons

let your god explain the theory of relativity by einstien

let your god explain that if gravitional singularity wasn't real then how did he become...oh here comes the frat house answers

also how come your god can't and didn't answer the most unanswered question ever,other planets?

also ask your god how come a proton star collapses on itself then it becomes a blackhole which in a nebula the gases and matter in it become a galaxy

let me guess it isn't important as long as we don't question him,but i did and nothing






Why would i ask him any of that? None of that is of any importance whatsoever.
funny i thought it would be sense your defending him

AndyBgood's photo
Sun 10/17/10 08:28 PM


cowboy let your god explain gravitational singularity

let your god tell me how fast the event horizon around a blackhole is going...did he guess 3,000,000 miles per hour


let your god explain how a pulsar is so dense that spoonfuls weight is in the tons

let your god explain the theory of relativity by einstien

let your god explain that if gravitional singularity wasn't real then how did he become...oh here comes the frat house answers

also how come your god can't and didn't answer the most unanswered question ever,other planets?

also ask your god how come a proton star collapses on itself then it becomes a blackhole which in a nebula the gases and matter in it become a galaxy

let me guess it isn't important as long as we don't question him,but i did and nothing






Why would i ask him any of that? None of that is of any importance whatsoever.


OK, How about this one, "How do you feel about the millions who died becasue of you in your name?"
"How do you feel about the wars and genocide in your name?"
"Why is it right to pray in your name when we are supposed to have no other Gods?"
"What honestly makes you any better than me?"

How are those for questions for Jesus here and now?

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Sun 10/17/10 08:56 PM



cowboy let your god explain gravitational singularity

let your god tell me how fast the event horizon around a blackhole is going...did he guess 3,000,000 miles per hour


let your god explain how a pulsar is so dense that spoonfuls weight is in the tons

let your god explain the theory of relativity by einstien

let your god explain that if gravitional singularity wasn't real then how did he become...oh here comes the frat house answers

also how come your god can't and didn't answer the most unanswered question ever,other planets?

also ask your god how come a proton star collapses on itself then it becomes a blackhole which in a nebula the gases and matter in it become a galaxy

let me guess it isn't important as long as we don't question him,but i did and nothing






Why would i ask him any of that? None of that is of any importance whatsoever.


OK, How about this one, "How do you feel about the millions who died becasue of you in your name?"
"How do you feel about the wars and genocide in your name?"
"Why is it right to pray in your name when we are supposed to have no other Gods?"
"What honestly makes you any better than me?"

How are those for questions for Jesus here and now?


I'm sure he would say something like this... "Jesus who? That's not my name!"

Thomas3474's photo
Sun 10/17/10 09:19 PM

seriously scientist have not only proved that atoms are the creators but actually went further to prove subatomic particals build even them and they can break them down even further.the difference between atheist and jesus freaks is atheist have actual people use shovels to dig for the truth,jesus freaks have a book...yet jesus freaks will say"you believe in books also"of course i do cause they actually used a shovel not a book



Scientist are probably accurate on their predictions maybe 5% or less if that.If I have learned anything from scientist I have learned that their predictions and theories are completely worthless.If they can prove with out a doubt what they speak I will believe it.

Here is some more brilliant theories...

Computers in the future may weigh no more than 1.5 tons."
Popular Mechanics, forecasting the relentless march of science, 1949

"I think there is a world market for maybe five computers."
Thomas Watson, chairman of IBM, 1943

"I have traveled the length and breadth of this country and talked with the best people, and I can assure you that data processing is a fad that won't last out the year."
The editor in charge of business books for Prentice Hall, 1957

"But what ... is it good for?"
Engineer at the Advanced Computing Systems Division of IBM, 1968, commenting on the microchip.

"There is no reason anyone would want a computer in their home."
Ken Olson, president, chairman and founder of Digital Equipment Corp., 1977


"Professor Goddard does not know the relation between action and reaction and the need to have something better than a vacuum against which to react. He seems to lack the basic knowledge ladled out daily in high schools."
1921 New York Times editorial about Robert Goddard's revolutionary rocket work.

"You want to have consistent and uniform muscle development across all of your muscles? It can't be done. It's just a fact of life. You just have to accept inconsistent muscle development as an unalterable condition of weight training."
Response to Arthur Jones, who solved the "unsolvable" problem by inventing Nautilus.

"Drill for oil? You mean drill into the ground to try and find oil? You're crazy."
Drillers who Edwin L. Drake tried to enlist to his project to drill for oil in 1859.

"The bomb will never go off. I speak as an expert in explosives."
Admiral William Leahy, US Atomic Bomb Project.

"This fellow Charles Lindbergh will never make it. He's doomed."
Harry Guggenheim, millionaire aviation enthusiast.

"Stocks have reached what looks like a permanently high plateau."
Irving Fisher, Professor of Economics, Yale University, 1929.

"Airplanes are interesting toys but of no military value."
Marechal Ferdinand Foch, Professor of Strategy, Ecole Superieure de Guerre.

"Man will never reach the moon regardless of all future scientific advances."
Dr. Lee De Forest, inventor of the vacuum tube and father of television.

"Everything that can be invented has been invented."
Charles H. Duell, Commissioner, U.S. Office of Patents, 1899

"Louis Pastueur's theory of germs is ridiculous fiction."
Pierre Pachet, Professor of Physiology at Toulouse, 1872

"The abdomen, the chest, and the brain will forever be shut from the instrusion of the wise and humane surgeon."
Sir John Eric Ericksen, British surgeon, appointed Surgeon-Extraordinary to Queen Victoria, 1873


"If I had thought about it, I wouldn't have done the experiment. The literature was full of examples that said you can't do this."
Spencer Silver on the work that led to the unique adhesives for 3-M "Post-It" Notepads.

"So we went to Atari and said, 'Hey, we've got this amazing thing, even built with some of your parts, and what do you think about funding us? Or we'll give it to you. We just want to do it. Pay our salary, we'll come work for you.' And they said, 'No.' So then we went to Hewlett-Packard, and they said, 'Hey, we don't need you. You haven't got through college yet.'"
Apple Computer Inc. founder Steve Jobs on attempts to get Atari and H-P interested in his and Steve Wozniak's personal computer.

"Who the hell wants to hear actors talk?"
H.M. Warner, Warner Brothers, 1927.

"I'm just glad it'll be Clark Gable who's falling on his face and not Gary Cooper."
Gary Cooper on his decision not to take the leading role in "Gone With The Wind."

"A cookie store is a bad idea. Besides, the market research reports say America likes crispy cookies, not soft and chewy cookies like you make."
Response to Debbi Fields' idea of starting Mrs. Fields' Cookies.

"We don't like their sound, and guitar music is on the way out."
Decca Recording Co. rejecting the Beatles, 1962.

"Heavier-than-air flying machines are impossible."
Lord Kelvin, president, Royal Society, 1895.

Thomas3474's photo
Sun 10/17/10 09:34 PM



cowboy let your god explain gravitational singularity

let your god tell me how fast the event horizon around a blackhole is going...did he guess 3,000,000 miles per hour


let your god explain how a pulsar is so dense that spoonfuls weight is in the tons

let your god explain the theory of relativity by einstien

let your god explain that if gravitional singularity wasn't real then how did he become...oh here comes the frat house answers

also how come your god can't and didn't answer the most unanswered question ever,other planets?

also ask your god how come a proton star collapses on itself then it becomes a blackhole which in a nebula the gases and matter in it become a galaxy

let me guess it isn't important as long as we don't question him,but i did and nothing






Why would i ask him any of that? None of that is of any importance whatsoever.


OK, How about this one, "How do you feel about the millions who died becasue of you in your name?"
"How do you feel about the wars and genocide in your name?"
"Why is it right to pray in your name when we are supposed to have no other Gods?"
"What honestly makes you any better than me?"

How are those for questions for Jesus here and now?



Matthew 5:10 Blessed [are] they which are persecuted for righteousness' sake: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.

Matthew 5:11 Blessed are ye, when [men] shall revile you, and persecute [you], and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake.

Matthew 5:12 Rejoice, and be exceeding glad: for great [is] your reward in heaven: for so persecuted they the prophets which were before you.


There are no Wars or genocide in Jesus's name.There is no justification for starting a War as both God and Jesus command us not to kill and to forgive our enemy.


I don't see the point in praying to Gods who doesn't exist.

I think Christians are much better than any other people of any religion and much more better than Atheist.I believe this by their extremely generous support for people around the world who they have never met.Your not going to find a single Atheist charity out there.

RKISIT's photo
Sun 10/17/10 10:01 PM


cowboy let your god explain gravitational singularity

let your god tell me how fast the event horizon around a blackhole is going...did he guess 3,000,000 miles per hour


let your god explain how a pulsar is so dense that spoonfuls weight is in the tons

let your god explain the theory of relativity by einstien

let your god explain that if gravitional singularity wasn't real then how did he become...oh here comes the frat house answers

also how come your god can't and didn't answer the most unanswered question ever,other planets?

also ask your god how come a proton star collapses on itself then it becomes a blackhole which in a nebula the gases and matter in it become a galaxy

let me guess it isn't important as long as we don't question him,but i did and nothing






Why would i ask him any of that? None of that is of any importance whatsoever.
so as i stated once before don't question him just accept that he is the creator,never ask how he created what he/she/it created

Thomas3474's photo
Sun 10/17/10 10:08 PM



cowboy let your god explain gravitational singularity

let your god tell me how fast the event horizon around a blackhole is going...did he guess 3,000,000 miles per hour


let your god explain how a pulsar is so dense that spoonfuls weight is in the tons

let your god explain the theory of relativity by einstien

let your god explain that if gravitional singularity wasn't real then how did he become...oh here comes the frat house answers

also how come your god can't and didn't answer the most unanswered question ever,other planets?

also ask your god how come a proton star collapses on itself then it becomes a blackhole which in a nebula the gases and matter in it become a galaxy

let me guess it isn't important as long as we don't question him,but i did and nothing






Why would i ask him any of that? None of that is of any importance whatsoever.
so as i stated once before don't question him just accept that he is the creator,never ask how he created what he/she/it created



Why don't you read the first book of Genesis?God tells us why he created what he did and why.

RKISIT's photo
Sun 10/17/10 10:17 PM




cowboy let your god explain gravitational singularity

let your god tell me how fast the event horizon around a blackhole is going...did he guess 3,000,000 miles per hour


let your god explain how a pulsar is so dense that spoonfuls weight is in the tons

let your god explain the theory of relativity by einstien

let your god explain that if gravitional singularity wasn't real then how did he become...oh here comes the frat house answers

also how come your god can't and didn't answer the most unanswered question ever,other planets?

also ask your god how come a proton star collapses on itself then it becomes a blackhole which in a nebula the gases and matter in it become a galaxy

let me guess it isn't important as long as we don't question him,but i did and nothing






Why would i ask him any of that? None of that is of any importance whatsoever.
so as i stated once before don't question him just accept that he is the creator,never ask how he created what he/she/it created



Why don't you read the first book of Genesis?God tells us why he created what he did and why.
ok the torah doesn't answer any of what i asked.it just tells others i did it(meaning god) and don't ask how

RKISIT's photo
Sun 10/17/10 10:23 PM
hell as i have stated in another post the qur'an has moses as a muslim,actually the first muslim.funny thing though with moses in any religion,how did abraham play a part in the three religions...muslim,christianity and judism?this even makes it even funnier if abraham came from a sumerian city called UR,then how in the hell did god say adam and eve were the first in his torah he gave moses?

RKISIT's photo
Sun 10/17/10 10:30 PM
actually abraham was the first before all yet adam and eve were?
the bible quotes so many sumerian stories that it actually makes the torah false

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Sun 10/17/10 10:32 PM
For those interested here are some Atheist Charities for you.

Atheist Charities
Posted Wednesday, December 05, 2007 by Techskeptic

This is the season of giving, as they say. There are a lot of religions who use this time of year for reflection, charity and general goodwill. I dont see why atheists can't also use this time of year to be benevolent. Any time of year is good of course, but personally I find winter solstice to be one of the most uplifting days of the year, so why not?

I've been asked often why there aren't any atheist charities. Of course, as usual, people are just presuming or parroting things they heard. Of course there are atheist charities. And like in my videos post, I am considering charities that do not promote a specific religion to be an atheist charity.

I found most of these at the Internet Infidels discussion board (and copied descriptive text from there, apologies if that was a problem). But I thought a nice list would be better, plus I added a few more. There are useful sites like CharityNavigator to help you sort through all the charities out there. If there are comments proposing ones that I missed (and surely there are plenty), I will add them to this list, if they are highly rated (not that all of these are). So here goes:

UPDATE 2009: I apologize for not refreshing this list. No time this year. Please feel free to leave some more a-theist charities for me to include in future versions in the comments.Please read the comments for more and add your own! I know there are more good secular charities out there that I have missed. I also recommend donating so some of the excellent critical thinking podcasts out there.

Secular Charities and Aid groups:

DonorsChoose.org
a simple way to provide students in need with resources that our public schools often lack.

Kiva.org
lets you connect with and loan money to unique small businesses in the developing world.

The Union of Concerned Scientists
The leading science-based non-profit working for a healthy environment and safer world.

American Red Cross
The American Red Cross, a humanitarian organization led by volunteers, guided by its Congressional Charter and the Fundamental Principles of the International Red Cross Movement, will provide relief to victims of disasters and help people prevent, prepare for, and respond to emergencies. The USA's premier emergency response organization, over 91% of Red Cross spending is on charitable services.

American Civil Liberties Union
The mission of the ACLU is to preserve all of constitutional protections and guarantees relating to First Amendment rights, including the freedom to practice religion and the freedom not to have religion rammed down our throats, equal protection, due process, and right to privacy.

United Nations Children's Fund
UNICEF mobilizes political will and material resources to help countries, particularly developing countries, ensure a "first call for children" and to build their capacity to form appropriate policies and deliver services for children and their families. UNICEF provides emergency and disaster relief.

Doctors without Borders
Doctors Without Borders/Médecins Sans Frontières (MSF) is an international independent medical humanitarian organization that delivers emergency aid to people affected by armed conflict, epidemics, natural and man-made disasters, and exclusion from health care in nearly 70 countries.

Amnesty International
AI’s vision is of a world in which every person enjoys all of the human rights enshrined in the Universal Declaration of Human Rights and other international human rights standards.
In pursuit of this vision, AI’s mission is to undertake research and action focused on preventing and ending grave abuses of the rights to physical and mental integrity, freedom of conscience and expression, and freedom from discrimination, within the context of its work to promote all human rights.

Oxfam International
Oxfam International is a confederation of 12 organizations working together with over 3,000 partners in more than 100 countries to find lasting solutions to poverty, suffering and injustice. The Oxfams operate in over 100 countries worldwide working with local partners to alleviate poverty and injustice.

The Nature Conservancy
The Nature Conservancy is a leading international, nonprofit organization dedicated to preserving the diversity of life on Earth. An environmental group that protects natural habitats and the wildlife within them. Focuses on "science-based" initiatives.

Population Connection
Population Connection is the national grassroots population organization that educates young people and advocates progressive action to stabilize world population at a level that can be sustained by Earth's resources. Works against faith-based policies that are supported by the Religious Right.

DefCon: Campaign to Defend the Constitution
DefCon is an online grassroots movement combating the growing power of the religious right. It includes a blog on religious freedom issues, action alerts, and in-depth articles on scientific, religious, and legal issues of the day.

The SEED foundation
National nonprofit that establishes urban public boarding schools to prepare students from underserved communities for success in college.

Project Peanut Butter
Project Peanut Butter is a therapeutic feeding program for malnourished children in Malawi and Sierra Leone, on the continent of Africa. It was founded by Professor Mark Manary, M.D., a pediatrician at St. Louis Children’s Hospital and a professor of pediatric medicine at Washington University School of Medicine.

Electronic Frontiers Foundation
When our freedoms in the networked world come under attack, the Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF) is the first line of defense. Blending the expertise of lawyers, policy analysts, activists, and technologists, EFF achieves significant victories on behalf of consumers and the general public. EFF fights for freedom primarily in the courts, bringing and defending lawsuits even when that means taking on the US government or large corporations.

Mercy corps
Mercy Corps exists to alleviate suffering, poverty and oppression by helping people build secure, productive and just communities.

Seva
Our programs serve people who have been economically, politically, or otherwise marginalized. We change our program approach to relate to their culture and circumstances, reaching out in very different ways, for example, to nomads in Tibet, women in Tanzania, or indigenous Mayans in Guatemala. Our aim is to build a bridge of compassion between our donors and the people we serve — people around the world who have the fewest resources.

International Peace Institute
The International Peace Institute (IPI) formerly International Peace Academy is an independent, international institution dedicated to promoting the prevention and settlement of armed conflict between and within states through policy research and development.

Issue-Specific Secularist Organizations

Anti-Discrimination
The ADSN Project.
The Freethought Society of Greater Philadelphia's Anti-Discrimination support network (ADSN) is collecting narratives highlighting instances of bigotry against the nontheist community.

Southern Poverty Law Center
SPLC is internationally known for its tolerance education programs, its legal victories against white supremacists and its tracking of hate groups.

The Alternatives to Marriage Project
The Alternatives to Marriage Project (AtMP) advocates for equality and fairness for unmarried people, including people who are single, choose not to marry, cannot marry, or live together before marriage.

Pro-choice organizations
Planned Parenthood Federation of America
Provides reproductive health care services, advocates for women's reproductive rights, and offers educational services for women.

NARAL Pro-choice America
Focuses mostly on the social and legal activism for women's abortion rights.

Womens Health Organizations
EngenderHealth
an international nonprofit organization that has been working for 60 years to make reproductive health services safe, available, and sustainable for women and men worldwide.

Ipas
an international organization that works around the world to increase women's ability to exercise their sexual and reproductive rights, and to reduce abortion-related deaths and injuries.

Teen Pregnancy Reduction
National Campaign to Prevent Teen Pregnancy
Sadly this charity is rated with only 2 stars due to low efficiency. However their goal is highly respectable and needed, to prevent teen pregnancy and unplanned pregnancy among single, young adults.

HIV/AIDS
Treatment Action Campaign
campaign for treatment for people with HIV and to reduce new HIV infections. Our efforts have resulted in many life-saving interventions, including the implementation of country-wide mother-to-child transmission prevention and antiretroviral treatment programes.

U.S. Military
Military Association of Atheists and Freethinkers
Challenging the myth that "there are no atheists in foxholes." There certainly are.

Gay rights
Lambda
A national non-profit gay/lesbian/bisexual/transgender (GLBT) agency dedicated to reducing homophobia, inequality, hate crimes, and discrimination by encouraging self-acceptance, cooperation, and non-violence.

Lambda Legal
The legal arm of the Lambda organization that protects GLBT civil rights through impact litigation, education and public policy work.

Gay and Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation
Dedicated to promoting and ensuring fair, accurate and inclusive representation of people and events in the media as a means of eliminating homophobia and discrimination based on gender identity and sexual orientation.

Human Rights Campaign
Large organization working for lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender equal rights.

School vouchers
National Education Association (NEA) on school vouchers
Provides several arguments for the case against private school vouchers.

Pledge of Allegiance
Restore the Pledge
Support Michael Newdow in his quest to remove the phrase "under God" from the official Pledge of Allegiance, coercively recited by millions of schoolchildren every day.

Evolution/Creationism in the science classroom
National Center for Science Education
Great resource with current news and resources (including the famous "Project Steve" list!) on defending evolution and science against pseudoscience advocates.

Texas Freedom Network
The Texas Freedom Network advances a mainstream agenda of religious freedom and individual liberties to counter the religious right

Boy Scouts of America discrimination against atheists, gays
Scouting For All
Composed of mostly former Boy Scouts, it is working to influence the BSA to include all participating youth members and leaders regardless of religious beliefs or sexual orientation.

Children in Poor countries
PlanUSA
an organization committed to helping children, their families and communities in 49 developing countries around the world.

Internet tools
Wikipedia
a multilingual, Web-based, free-content encyclopedia project. The name "Wikipedia" is a portmanteau (a combination of portions of two words and their meanings) of the words wiki (a type of collaborative Web site) and encyclopedia. Wikipedia's articles provide links to guide the user to related pages with additional information.


Church/state separation and secularist organizations

Americans United for Separation of Church and State
A national watchdog organization (with local chapters all around the U.S.---find one near you!) dedicated to preserving religious liberty. It is open to theists and nontheists of all kinds, and is headed by a minister with the United Church of Christ (Rev. Barry Lynn) who can be seen often in the national media and news stories centering on church/state separation issues.

American Civil Liberties Union (click on the "Religious Liberty" link)
A favorite target of the Religious Right. The ACLU defends civil liberties on many fronts including church/state separation, personal privacy, and legal protection through due process. Look for a local chapter in your area to join.

People for the American Way
Progressive group that supports secular values in government. PFAW is an activist organization and PAC (political action committee) working to battle such groups as the Christian Coalition. Click the "Religious Freedom" link for action alerts and information.

Freedom from Religion Foundation
Great organization that defends the rights of nontheists in courtrooms, sponsors a fun-filled annual national convention, and publishes the popular "Freethought Today" (magazine written by and for freethinkers).

Godless Americans Political Action Committee
Endorses and supports U.S. political candidates that support secular values in government and the rights of "godless Americans." We will have our "seat at the table" in formulating public policy.

Atheist Alliance
Democratic association of various individual atheists and atheist organizations. It is a great all-around resource for all-things atheist.

Interfaith Alliance
Alliance of leaders of various religions, worldviews, and beliefs that includes Christians, Muslims, Jews, Hindus, agnostics, atheists, et al. It works to promote religious freedom for everyone regardless of religious beliefs as well as civic participation and civility. Nontheists can find theist allies here.

American Atheists
Controversial atheist organization started by the infamous Madalyn Murray O'Hair. Today it fights for the complete separation of church and state, as well as for the rights of atheists in America.

Secular Coalition for America
Vast coalition of secular and freethought organizations (including the Internet Infidels!) dedicated to sending lobbyists to Washington, D.C. to gain support for protecting the rights of nontheist Americans.

Richard Dawkins Foundation for Reason and Science
Explores the causes of religious belief, promotes science in public schools, maintains a list of public lecturers, sells pro-secularist books and other media, and facilitates the giving of humanitarian aid to organizations that are completely secular in nature.

Europe

National Secular Society
Supports secularism in the UK, as well as church-state separation.

Rationalist Association
The Rationalist Association is a focus for rationalist thought and debate in the UK and worldwide. The RA is the UK's leading freethought and rationalist book publisher.

Australia

Atheist Foundation of Australia, Inc.
Something for our friends Down Under -- lots of good information, book lists, humor, etc.


Organizations that promote humanism/Atheism

Center For Inquiry
The purpose of the Center for Inquiry is to contribute to the public understanding and appreciation of science and reason, and their applications to human conduct.

Council for Secular Humanism
Large organization that offers support for secular humanists through activities such as magazine publishing, conducting secular ceremonies (weddings, funerals, etc.), educational courses, and summer camps for kids that teach critical thinking skills and secular ethical values.

American Humanist Association
Promotes the spread of humanism and furthering of the humanist philosophy in the U.S. by working with and/or establishing like-minded organizations.

The Continuum of Humanist Education
Online courses available for humanists in areas such as law, science, ethics, and secular humanist philosophy.

The Institute for Humanist Studies (IHS)
A think-tank that offers news, opinions, information, and humor relating to humanism. It works to spread public awareness and acceptance of humanist principles.

British Humanist Association
The largest provider of humanist ceremonies in England and Wales. Offers services for weddings, funerals, and baby-namings as well as general resources on humanism and support for humanist organizations.

Humanist Association of Canada
Provides secular officiants, information, services, and support for humanists in Canada.

Positive Atheism
Comprehensive resource for positive atheists to learn about atheism, history, philosophy, religious freedom, and responsibility.

Unitarian Universalist Assocation
A popular "church" for atheists, agnostics, deists, very liberal Christians, etc. Check your local yellow pages for one in your community or use this website's handy Congregation locator.

The Brights
A movement endorsed by several prominent nontheists to adopt a new term ("Brights") with an accompanying philosophy to describe secularists, freethinkers, atheists, naturalists, etc. with the intent of putting forth a positive, and less-stigmatized, perception of ourselves. Many nontheists have encouraged its use, while many others reject it.

The Objectivist Center
A controversial philosophy founded by Ayn Rand that embodies particular principles on various philosophical, political, economic, and religious issues. Objectivists generally are atheists, but atheists are generally not Objectivists.

Skeptic Society
Learn how to live life free of nonsensical beliefs, and develop your own scientific and critical thinking skills. Also publishes a popular monthly magazine, SKEPTIC, which can be found in major bookstores.

Committee for the Scientific Investigation of Claims of the Paranormal (CSICOP)
Investigates extraordinary claims from a scientific and rational perspective. CSICOP also puts out a popular monthly magazine, Skeptical Inquirer, found in major bookstores.

American Ethical Union (AEU)
The American Ethical Union (AEU) describes "Ethical Culture" as a humanistic religious and educational movement inspired by the ideal that the supreme aim of human life is working to create a more humane society.

International Humanist and Ethical Union (IHEU)
IHEU is the sole world umbrella organization for humanist, atheist, rationalist, secularist, skeptic, laique, ethical cultural, freethought and similar organizations world-wide.

Internet Infidels
A nonprofit educational organization dedicated to defending and promoting a naturalistic worldview on the Internet. They offer thousands of outstanding essays, reviews, and critiques, covering everything from articles of general interest to scholarly papers by prominent nontheistic philosophers, scientists, historians, and others. Unlike most of our opponents, we even publish responses to our own pieces to encourage readers to make up their own minds. In addition to such encyclopedic resources, other features of the site are outlined in the Secular Web pamphlet, which readers may download, print out, and distribute, as desired.

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Sun 10/17/10 10:32 PM

hell as i have stated in another post the qur'an has moses as a muslim,actually the first muslim.funny thing though with moses in any religion,how did abraham play a part in the three religions...muslim,christianity and judism?this even makes it even funnier if abraham came from a sumerian city called UR,then how in the hell did god say adam and eve were the first in his torah he gave moses?



The Holy bible is the only true bible.The Old testament has hundreds of predictions that were fulfilled.What does the quran have?Nothing.Islam hijacked parts of the Old testament and wrote their own twisted,warped book.The fact Islam mentions Jesus Christ only makes the case for Christianity stronger.You have 3 billion plus who believe Jesus Christ was who he said he is,and another 1.5 billion from another religion who acknowledge he was a real person.The Holy bible does not acknowledge any other religion or the people they speak about.

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Sun 10/17/10 10:35 PM
someone show me where the bible even mentions mesopotamia

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Sun 10/17/10 10:48 PM


hell as i have stated in another post the qur'an has moses as a muslim,actually the first muslim.funny thing though with moses in any religion,how did abraham play a part in the three religions...muslim,christianity and judism?this even makes it even funnier if abraham came from a sumerian city called UR,then how in the hell did god say adam and eve were the first in his torah he gave moses?



The Holy bible is the only true bible.The Old testament has hundreds of predictions that were fulfilled.What does the quran have?Nothing.Islam hijacked parts of the Old testament and wrote their own twisted,warped book.The fact Islam mentions Jesus Christ only makes the case for Christianity stronger.You have 3 billion plus who believe Jesus Christ was who he said he is,and another 1.5 billion from another religion who acknowledge he was a real person.The Holy bible does not acknowledge any other religion or the people they speak about.
man you don't get it.the 3 religions islam,christianity,and judism all revolve around abraham who is the originator of monotheism,but yet he came from UR a sumerian city where sumerians were polytheistic,ok then where in the hell did the sumerians and abraham come from?

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Sun 10/17/10 10:59 PM
if GOD did it then he forgot to mention,oh by the way abraham and the sumerians were a joke just like the dinosaurs...ooops i'm not that perfect?

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Sun 10/17/10 11:00 PM

For those interested here are some Atheist Charities for you.

Atheist Charities
Posted Wednesday, December 05, 2007 by Techskeptic

This is the season of giving, as they say. There are a lot of religions who use this time of year for reflection, charity and general goodwill. I dont see why atheists can't also use this time of year to be benevolent. Any time of year is good of course, but personally I find winter solstice to be one of the most uplifting days of the year, so why not?

I've been asked often why there aren't any atheist charities. Of course, as usual, people are just presuming or parroting things they heard. Of course there are atheist charities. And like in my videos post, I am considering charities that do not promote a specific religion to be an atheist charity.

I found most of these at the Internet Infidels discussion board (and copied descriptive text from there, apologies if that was a problem). But I thought a nice list would be better, plus I added a few more. There are useful sites like CharityNavigator to help you sort through all the charities out there. If there are comments proposing ones that I missed (and surely there are plenty), I will add them to this list, if they are highly rated (not that all of these are). So here goes:

UPDATE 2009: I apologize for not refreshing this list. No time this year. Please feel free to leave some more a-theist charities for me to include in future versions in the comments.Please read the comments for more and add your own! I know there are more good secular charities out there that I have missed. I also recommend donating so some of the excellent critical thinking podcasts out there.

Secular Charities and Aid groups:

DonorsChoose.org
a simple way to provide students in need with resources that our public schools often lack.

Kiva.org
lets you connect with and loan money to unique small businesses in the developing world.

The Union of Concerned Scientists
The leading science-based non-profit working for a healthy environment and safer world.

American Red Cross
The American Red Cross, a humanitarian organization led by volunteers, guided by its Congressional Charter and the Fundamental Principles of the International Red Cross Movement, will provide relief to victims of disasters and help people prevent, prepare for, and respond to emergencies. The USA's premier emergency response organization, over 91% of Red Cross spending is on charitable services.

American Civil Liberties Union
The mission of the ACLU is to preserve all of constitutional protections and guarantees relating to First Amendment rights, including the freedom to practice religion and the freedom not to have religion rammed down our throats, equal protection, due process, and right to privacy.

United Nations Children's Fund
UNICEF mobilizes political will and material resources to help countries, particularly developing countries, ensure a "first call for children" and to build their capacity to form appropriate policies and deliver services for children and their families. UNICEF provides emergency and disaster relief.

Doctors without Borders
Doctors Without Borders/Médecins Sans Frontières (MSF) is an international independent medical humanitarian organization that delivers emergency aid to people affected by armed conflict, epidemics, natural and man-made disasters, and exclusion from health care in nearly 70 countries.

Amnesty International
AI’s vision is of a world in which every person enjoys all of the human rights enshrined in the Universal Declaration of Human Rights and other international human rights standards.
In pursuit of this vision, AI’s mission is to undertake research and action focused on preventing and ending grave abuses of the rights to physical and mental integrity, freedom of conscience and expression, and freedom from discrimination, within the context of its work to promote all human rights.

Oxfam International
Oxfam International is a confederation of 12 organizations working together with over 3,000 partners in more than 100 countries to find lasting solutions to poverty, suffering and injustice. The Oxfams operate in over 100 countries worldwide working with local partners to alleviate poverty and injustice.

The Nature Conservancy
The Nature Conservancy is a leading international, nonprofit organization dedicated to preserving the diversity of life on Earth. An environmental group that protects natural habitats and the wildlife within them. Focuses on "science-based" initiatives.

Population Connection
Population Connection is the national grassroots population organization that educates young people and advocates progressive action to stabilize world population at a level that can be sustained by Earth's resources. Works against faith-based policies that are supported by the Religious Right.

DefCon: Campaign to Defend the Constitution
DefCon is an online grassroots movement combating the growing power of the religious right. It includes a blog on religious freedom issues, action alerts, and in-depth articles on scientific, religious, and legal issues of the day.

The SEED foundation
National nonprofit that establishes urban public boarding schools to prepare students from underserved communities for success in college.

Project Peanut Butter
Project Peanut Butter is a therapeutic feeding program for malnourished children in Malawi and Sierra Leone, on the continent of Africa. It was founded by Professor Mark Manary, M.D., a pediatrician at St. Louis Children’s Hospital and a professor of pediatric medicine at Washington University School of Medicine.

Electronic Frontiers Foundation
When our freedoms in the networked world come under attack, the Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF) is the first line of defense. Blending the expertise of lawyers, policy analysts, activists, and technologists, EFF achieves significant victories on behalf of consumers and the general public. EFF fights for freedom primarily in the courts, bringing and defending lawsuits even when that means taking on the US government or large corporations.

Mercy corps
Mercy Corps exists to alleviate suffering, poverty and oppression by helping people build secure, productive and just communities.

Seva
Our programs serve people who have been economically, politically, or otherwise marginalized. We change our program approach to relate to their culture and circumstances, reaching out in very different ways, for example, to nomads in Tibet, women in Tanzania, or indigenous Mayans in Guatemala. Our aim is to build a bridge of compassion between our donors and the people we serve — people around the world who have the fewest resources.

International Peace Institute
The International Peace Institute (IPI) formerly International Peace Academy is an independent, international institution dedicated to promoting the prevention and settlement of armed conflict between and within states through policy research and development.

Issue-Specific Secularist Organizations

Anti-Discrimination
The ADSN Project.
The Freethought Society of Greater Philadelphia's Anti-Discrimination support network (ADSN) is collecting narratives highlighting instances of bigotry against the nontheist community.

Southern Poverty Law Center
SPLC is internationally known for its tolerance education programs, its legal victories against white supremacists and its tracking of hate groups.

The Alternatives to Marriage Project
The Alternatives to Marriage Project (AtMP) advocates for equality and fairness for unmarried people, including people who are single, choose not to marry, cannot marry, or live together before marriage.

Pro-choice organizations
Planned Parenthood Federation of America
Provides reproductive health care services, advocates for women's reproductive rights, and offers educational services for women.

NARAL Pro-choice America
Focuses mostly on the social and legal activism for women's abortion rights.

Womens Health Organizations
EngenderHealth
an international nonprofit organization that has been working for 60 years to make reproductive health services safe, available, and sustainable for women and men worldwide.

Ipas
an international organization that works around the world to increase women's ability to exercise their sexual and reproductive rights, and to reduce abortion-related deaths and injuries.

Teen Pregnancy Reduction
National Campaign to Prevent Teen Pregnancy
Sadly this charity is rated with only 2 stars due to low efficiency. However their goal is highly respectable and needed, to prevent teen pregnancy and unplanned pregnancy among single, young adults.

HIV/AIDS
Treatment Action Campaign
campaign for treatment for people with HIV and to reduce new HIV infections. Our efforts have resulted in many life-saving interventions, including the implementation of country-wide mother-to-child transmission prevention and antiretroviral treatment programes.

U.S. Military
Military Association of Atheists and Freethinkers
Challenging the myth that "there are no atheists in foxholes." There certainly are.

Gay rights
Lambda
A national non-profit gay/lesbian/bisexual/transgender (GLBT) agency dedicated to reducing homophobia, inequality, hate crimes, and discrimination by encouraging self-acceptance, cooperation, and non-violence.

Lambda Legal
The legal arm of the Lambda organization that protects GLBT civil rights through impact litigation, education and public policy work.

Gay and Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation
Dedicated to promoting and ensuring fair, accurate and inclusive representation of people and events in the media as a means of eliminating homophobia and discrimination based on gender identity and sexual orientation.

Human Rights Campaign
Large organization working for lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender equal rights.

School vouchers
National Education Association (NEA) on school vouchers
Provides several arguments for the case against private school vouchers.

Pledge of Allegiance
Restore the Pledge
Support Michael Newdow in his quest to remove the phrase "under God" from the official Pledge of Allegiance, coercively recited by millions of schoolchildren every day.

Evolution/Creationism in the science classroom
National Center for Science Education
Great resource with current news and resources (including the famous "Project Steve" list!) on defending evolution and science against pseudoscience advocates.

Texas Freedom Network
The Texas Freedom Network advances a mainstream agenda of religious freedom and individual liberties to counter the religious right

Boy Scouts of America discrimination against atheists, gays
Scouting For All
Composed of mostly former Boy Scouts, it is working to influence the BSA to include all participating youth members and leaders regardless of religious beliefs or sexual orientation.

Children in Poor countries
PlanUSA
an organization committed to helping children, their families and communities in 49 developing countries around the world.

Internet tools
Wikipedia
a multilingual, Web-based, free-content encyclopedia project. The name "Wikipedia" is a portmanteau (a combination of portions of two words and their meanings) of the words wiki (a type of collaborative Web site) and encyclopedia. Wikipedia's articles provide links to guide the user to related pages with additional information.


Church/state separation and secularist organizations

Americans United for Separation of Church and State
A national watchdog organization (with local chapters all around the U.S.---find one near you!) dedicated to preserving religious liberty. It is open to theists and nontheists of all kinds, and is headed by a minister with the United Church of Christ (Rev. Barry Lynn) who can be seen often in the national media and news stories centering on church/state separation issues.

American Civil Liberties Union (click on the "Religious Liberty" link)
A favorite target of the Religious Right. The ACLU defends civil liberties on many fronts including church/state separation, personal privacy, and legal protection through due process. Look for a local chapter in your area to join.

People for the American Way
Progressive group that supports secular values in government. PFAW is an activist organization and PAC (political action committee) working to battle such groups as the Christian Coalition. Click the "Religious Freedom" link for action alerts and information.

Freedom from Religion Foundation
Great organization that defends the rights of nontheists in courtrooms, sponsors a fun-filled annual national convention, and publishes the popular "Freethought Today" (magazine written by and for freethinkers).

Godless Americans Political Action Committee
Endorses and supports U.S. political candidates that support secular values in government and the rights of "godless Americans." We will have our "seat at the table" in formulating public policy.

Atheist Alliance
Democratic association of various individual atheists and atheist organizations. It is a great all-around resource for all-things atheist.

Interfaith Alliance
Alliance of leaders of various religions, worldviews, and beliefs that includes Christians, Muslims, Jews, Hindus, agnostics, atheists, et al. It works to promote religious freedom for everyone regardless of religious beliefs as well as civic participation and civility. Nontheists can find theist allies here.

American Atheists
Controversial atheist organization started by the infamous Madalyn Murray O'Hair. Today it fights for the complete separation of church and state, as well as for the rights of atheists in America.

Secular Coalition for America
Vast coalition of secular and freethought organizations (including the Internet Infidels!) dedicated to sending lobbyists to Washington, D.C. to gain support for protecting the rights of nontheist Americans.

Richard Dawkins Foundation for Reason and Science
Explores the causes of religious belief, promotes science in public schools, maintains a list of public lecturers, sells pro-secularist books and other media, and facilitates the giving of humanitarian aid to organizations that are completely secular in nature.

Europe

National Secular Society
Supports secularism in the UK, as well as church-state separation.

Rationalist Association
The Rationalist Association is a focus for rationalist thought and debate in the UK and worldwide. The RA is the UK's leading freethought and rationalist book publisher.

Australia

Atheist Foundation of Australia, Inc.
Something for our friends Down Under -- lots of good information, book lists, humor, etc.


Organizations that promote humanism/Atheism

Center For Inquiry
The purpose of the Center for Inquiry is to contribute to the public understanding and appreciation of science and reason, and their applications to human conduct.

Council for Secular Humanism
Large organization that offers support for secular humanists through activities such as magazine publishing, conducting secular ceremonies (weddings, funerals, etc.), educational courses, and summer camps for kids that teach critical thinking skills and secular ethical values.

American Humanist Association
Promotes the spread of humanism and furthering of the humanist philosophy in the U.S. by working with and/or establishing like-minded organizations.

The Continuum of Humanist Education
Online courses available for humanists in areas such as law, science, ethics, and secular humanist philosophy.

The Institute for Humanist Studies (IHS)
A think-tank that offers news, opinions, information, and humor relating to humanism. It works to spread public awareness and acceptance of humanist principles.

British Humanist Association
The largest provider of humanist ceremonies in England and Wales. Offers services for weddings, funerals, and baby-namings as well as general resources on humanism and support for humanist organizations.

Humanist Association of Canada
Provides secular officiants, information, services, and support for humanists in Canada.

Positive Atheism
Comprehensive resource for positive atheists to learn about atheism, history, philosophy, religious freedom, and responsibility.

Unitarian Universalist Assocation
A popular "church" for atheists, agnostics, deists, very liberal Christians, etc. Check your local yellow pages for one in your community or use this website's handy Congregation locator.

The Brights
A movement endorsed by several prominent nontheists to adopt a new term ("Brights") with an accompanying philosophy to describe secularists, freethinkers, atheists, naturalists, etc. with the intent of putting forth a positive, and less-stigmatized, perception of ourselves. Many nontheists have encouraged its use, while many others reject it.

The Objectivist Center
A controversial philosophy founded by Ayn Rand that embodies particular principles on various philosophical, political, economic, and religious issues. Objectivists generally are atheists, but atheists are generally not Objectivists.

Skeptic Society
Learn how to live life free of nonsensical beliefs, and develop your own scientific and critical thinking skills. Also publishes a popular monthly magazine, SKEPTIC, which can be found in major bookstores.

Committee for the Scientific Investigation of Claims of the Paranormal (CSICOP)
Investigates extraordinary claims from a scientific and rational perspective. CSICOP also puts out a popular monthly magazine, Skeptical Inquirer, found in major bookstores.

American Ethical Union (AEU)
The American Ethical Union (AEU) describes "Ethical Culture" as a humanistic religious and educational movement inspired by the ideal that the supreme aim of human life is working to create a more humane society.

International Humanist and Ethical Union (IHEU)
IHEU is the sole world umbrella organization for humanist, atheist, rationalist, secularist, skeptic, laique, ethical cultural, freethought and similar organizations world-wide.

Internet Infidels
A nonprofit educational organization dedicated to defending and promoting a naturalistic worldview on the Internet. They offer thousands of outstanding essays, reviews, and critiques, covering everything from articles of general interest to scholarly papers by prominent nontheistic philosophers, scientists, historians, and others. Unlike most of our opponents, we even publish responses to our own pieces to encourage readers to make up their own minds. In addition to such encyclopedic resources, other features of the site are outlined in the Secular Web pamphlet, which readers may download, print out, and distribute, as desired.




The majority of what you are mentioning are not charities but legal originations who are not working for everyone but catering to a specific group of people.People like the ACLU do not work for free.They are not volunteers.They are no different than any other paid lawyers and hardly a charity.A great deal of what you presented are dozens of countries coming together for a common cause.What does this have to do with Atheist charities?Anything with the United nations(which many mention the UN)can't possibly be considered Atheist since the majority of countries in the UN are Christian majority countries.

Since you obviously just cut and copied from some stupid anti Christian website with out reading you would realize that groups catering to a specific group of people(such as gays,and Atheist)are not working for the good of everyone and are formed to have a negative agenda against Christianity.Once again this is hardly a charity.


I checked into a few of your larger so called Atheist charities I have heard of.I didn't find any that said they were found by Atheist or were Atheist related.One was dead wrong.


Mercy corps....

http://www.urbanministry.org/org/mercy-volunteer-corps

Called and missioned by God, the Mercy Volunteer Corps staff, board members, and volunteers commit to the values of compassionate service, a simple lifestyle in community, and spiritual growth. The mission of Mercy Volunteer Corps is rooted in the Christian tradition and inspired by Catherine McAuley's commitment to following Jesus through compassionate service. In partnership with the Sisters of Mercy of the Americas, Mercy Volunteer Corps is dedicated to connecting lay women and men with people who are economically poor or marginalized. Committed to this mission of mercy, we seek to respond as a community to the tremendous disparities of wealth and power in our world.



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Sun 10/17/10 11:41 PM







And what does this have to do with any form of religion? It is about a lizard that runs on water. Yes it can be related with Jesus walking on the water. But no discussion was mentioned in the posting, only the video of the lizard.


Doesn't the bible teach humour? Is there no humour allowed in religion? Come to think of it I have read no comedy in the bible at all...tragic or otherwise.




This is "General Religion Chat". Not "General Religion Humour"

This is a forum for civilized serious discussions on the religion beliefs amongst the world. For there is nothing funny about any religions or people's religious beliefs.


So, there's no humour allowed in religion then..Egads! And I often chat humorously...and no, you guys have your little private forums where you can lie to each other and play pretend world all you want.

I think this is funny...for it is as true to me as your human Jesus is to you. I'll defend my right to worship a lizard...to the last fly!














Making humour of someone's beliefs is degrading and insulting. And nevertheless this is a forum for discussion. This is not a humour forum.


oh come one cowboy, let em go...

if words can hurt ya, what kinda future you gonna have?

none.

if words can inflict pesonal offense, these shall fall prey to all manner of "less than good", via the system's that hath been created by the very peoples of the world themself.

hope you read those words three times, and then another three times, and then another three times.

one can always prove itself correct or offended in some way, but that which chooses it's confrontation's carefully, and with all due dilligence, spare itself and many other's many sad woe's.

have a little mercy on the small stuff, and stand for justice when it really matter's, when people's lives and freedom are in jeopardy.