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Topic: Whitehouse Aide states, Homosexuality is a Lifestyle Choice.
willing2's photo
Thu 10/14/10 08:04 PM
And, she got it right.

She, Valerie Jarrett, just cost BHO pointslaugh laugh laugh laugh

http://goodmenproject.com/2010/10/14/white-house-calls-homosexuality-a-%E2%80%98lifestyle-choice%E2%80%99/

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Thu 10/14/10 08:08 PM
yep..just like heterosexuality is a life style choice...more people choose heterosexuality because they seek the reward and positive attention they get from society....thus, heterosexuals are conformist
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Thu 10/14/10 08:53 PM
This is a note to remind every one to keep the debate civil. Whether you agree with the topic or not, leave the insults and derogatory terms off of the forums.

Kim

d24's photo
Thu 10/14/10 08:55 PM
I would like to add...With out Straight People Humans would not exists.

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Thu 10/14/10 09:23 PM



Sounds like some more of that religious nonsense! Did Jerry Falwell get a sex change and become Valerie Jarret?laugh

southern_bee's photo
Thu 10/14/10 09:35 PM
i dont think people like to be picked on and made fun of and want to get beat up...

there will always be straight people and there will always be bi,gay,transgendered and lesbian people.

there is nothing wrong with any kind of sexuality.so whats with the people who walk around claiming that they love everybody but leave out the fact about the gay communities?

i dont think anybody wants to get killed (remember Matthew Shepard)but if a person is saying that to get attention then they need help.

basically people just a because a person likes the same sex does not mean they are automatically attracted to you.

lets say for a second we "judge" people on their character.how many people who get beat up for being a bigot,a racist,a wife beater and a smart ***..

i think it should really matter how a persons character is,not their sexuality or even skin color for that matter.offtopic

speaking of i love how religion teach to love one another except for if you dont agree with are morals and values then you are a lepper.

no chooses intentionally to get picked on or beat up or made fun of or take the risk or being killed.so no nobody chooses to be gay,thats so ignorant.im sure if you actually say down and talked to a person who were gay and didnt know about their sexuality before hand you be amazed how normal they are..oh magneto and gandalf..[same person]GAY so what!

get a life stop being so immature and closed minded and actually learn to love no matter what a person sexuality..god where actually listening to what the government is saying?yeah those are really righteous moral peoplewhoa


d24's photo
Thu 10/14/10 09:41 PM
I used to work with a gay guy. He was always respectful nice all round decent person. But there are freaks in ALL Races,Genders,Faiths,and sexual preferences

msharmony's photo
Fri 10/15/10 12:33 AM

And, she got it right.

She, Valerie Jarrett, just cost BHO pointslaugh laugh laugh laugh

http://goodmenproject.com/2010/10/14/white-house-calls-homosexuality-a-%E2%80%98lifestyle-choice%E2%80%99/


well,, homosexual/heterosexual FEELINGS may not be a choice,, but last I checked all lifeSTYLES that adults have certainly are the result of choices (good or bad)

msharmony's photo
Fri 10/15/10 12:35 AM
no chooses intentionally to get picked on or beat up or made fun of or take the risk or being killed.so no nobody chooses to be gay,thats so ignorant.im sure if you actually say down and talked to a person who were gay and didnt know about their sexuality before hand you be amazed how normal they are..oh magneto and gandalf..[same person]GAY so what!



normal is subjective, (thats coming from someone with bisexual FEELINGS)

anyway,,,the litmus test for choice is not whether the choice is popular or not its rather there was more than one OPTION(desirable or not) for that person

people get beat up for being too poor, for being too rich, for being too fat or too skinny, too loose, or too frigid,,,, and all these things are a result of CHOICES people have made

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Fri 10/15/10 05:58 AM


well,, homosexual/heterosexual FEELINGS may not be a choice,, but last I checked all lifeSTYLES that adults have certainly are the result of choices (good or bad)
i understand what you are saying as far as chosing to live that way but in a way its almost not a choice i was four years old when i realized i liked girls no one had told me that i was supposed to i was just that way you could argue that hetro is ingrained in our society but at four i dont think i had really picked up on too much of that complex adult world choosing to be gay when i obviously liked women would be like not being able to stand the taste of pork and eating nothing but bacon everyday for the rest of my life. is it really fair to call the lifestyle a choice when the only reason most people would choose a lifestyle that goes agaisnt their core would be to avoid persecution from ignorant a holes?

Seakolony's photo
Fri 10/15/10 06:18 AM

And, she got it right.

She, Valerie Jarrett, just cost BHO pointslaugh laugh laugh laugh

http://goodmenproject.com/2010/10/14/white-house-calls-homosexuality-a-%E2%80%98lifestyle-choice%E2%80%99/

I do not believe people can who and what they are attracted to, and do not see it as a choice.

willing2's photo
Fri 10/15/10 06:29 AM
Ms Jarret went and apologized.

No matter.

Like Michelles disdain for the US and whites, we know what Ms Jarrets opinion of homosex truly is.


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Fri 10/15/10 09:15 AM
Edited by msharmony on Fri 10/15/10 09:17 AM



well,, homosexual/heterosexual FEELINGS may not be a choice,, but last I checked all lifeSTYLES that adults have certainly are the result of choices (good or bad)
i understand what you are saying as far as chosing to live that way but in a way its almost not a choice i was four years old when i realized i liked girls no one had told me that i was supposed to i was just that way you could argue that hetro is ingrained in our society but at four i dont think i had really picked up on too much of that complex adult world choosing to be gay when i obviously liked women would be like not being able to stand the taste of pork and eating nothing but bacon everyday for the rest of my life. is it really fair to call the lifestyle a choice when the only reason most people would choose a lifestyle that goes agaisnt their core would be to avoid persecution from ignorant a holes?



yes, because there are options,,which makes it a choice

the options we have arent always those we desire,,,but they are there

and there are other lifestyle options besides hetero and homo there is also the choice to abstain, and apparently some would rather take the beating from bullies(a terrible option) than choose the latter,

I wonder how many women have taken a beating for sleeping with someones man,,, its a choice they make to take the risk because the GRATIFICATION seems worth it,,

our society make sex NECESSARY and people wont consider other options, that is why we have all fashions of sexual preferences and fetishes,,,,its not just heterosexuality engrained into our culture , it is SEX (period)

Lpdon's photo
Fri 10/15/10 03:45 PM

And, she got it right.

She, Valerie Jarrett, just cost BHO pointslaugh laugh laugh laugh

http://goodmenproject.com/2010/10/14/white-house-calls-homosexuality-a-%E2%80%98lifestyle-choice%E2%80%99/


I sense a forced resignation coming soon.

MiddleEarthling's photo
Fri 10/15/10 04:29 PM
"Valerie Jarrett Apologizes For Referring To Dead Gay Teen's 'Lifestyle Choice'"

"In a recent interview I was asked about the recent tragedies about gay youth who have committed suicide, and I misspoke when I referred to someone's sexual identity as a "lifestyle choice." I meant no disrespect to the LGBT community, and I apologize to any who have taken offense at my poor choice of words. Sexual orientation and gender identity are not a choice, and anyone who knows me and my work over the years knows that I am a firm believer and supporter in the rights of LGBT Americans. Most of all, I hope this does not distract from the issue I was asked about -- the desperate, tragic decision by some young people who feel that their only recourse is to take their own lives because they are being bullied or harassed because they are gay, or because others believe they are gay. We must instill in young people respect for one another, and we must set an example of mutual regard and civility to create an environment that is safe for every person, regardless of sexual orientation or gender identity."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/10/14/valerie-jarrett-gay-choice_n_762798.html

Lpdon's photo
Fri 10/15/10 04:54 PM
I can't wait until she is "Forced" to resign.

willing2's photo
Fri 10/15/10 05:07 PM

"Valerie Jarrett Apologizes For Referring To Dead Gay Teen's 'Lifestyle Choice'"

"In a recent interview I was asked about the recent tragedies about gay youth who have committed suicide, and I misspoke when I referred to someone's sexual identity as a "lifestyle choice." I meant no disrespect to the LGBT community, and I apologize to any who have taken offense at my poor choice of words. Sexual orientation and gender identity are not a choice, and anyone who knows me and my work over the years knows that I am a firm believer and supporter in the rights of LGBT Americans. Most of all, I hope this does not distract from the issue I was asked about -- the desperate, tragic decision by some young people who feel that their only recourse is to take their own lives because they are being bullied or harassed because they are gay, or because others believe they are gay. We must instill in young people respect for one another, and we must set an example of mutual regard and civility to create an environment that is safe for every person, regardless of sexual orientation or gender identity."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/10/14/valerie-jarrett-gay-choice_n_762798.html



laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh

Forced apologies are jokes.smokin

Redykeulous's photo
Fri 10/15/10 05:29 PM


And, she got it right.

She, Valerie Jarrett, just cost BHO pointslaugh laugh laugh laugh

http://goodmenproject.com/2010/10/14/white-house-calls-homosexuality-a-%E2%80%98lifestyle-choice%E2%80%99/


well,, homosexual/heterosexual FEELINGS may not be a choice,, but last I checked all lifeSTYLES that adults have certainly are the result of choices (good or bad)


It's easy to see how the term 'lifestyle' can be applied to anyone. How individual 'choose' to conduct their lives does make the term applicable to everyone.

The operative word is choice. Using the term lifestyle as representative of a group of people is often the product of misinformation, stereotyping, or bias. The term hardly applies when choice is not part of the equation.

We can not say that being Black, Indian, Iranian and such representa a lifestyle choice anymore that we can say that being a homosexual is a lifestyle choice. That makes a huge differnece.

We do not expect Blacks, Indians, or Asians, to exchange their liberty and their pursuit of happiness in order to be Black, Indian or Asian becasue it's not a choice they can make. Neither is being homosexual or heterosexual a choice.

So while there are still people who 'innocently'use the expression 'lifestyle choice' when referring to the gay community, it is still offensive, but it is a forgivable offence if the individual admits the error and apologises and especially when their other behaviors indicate that no harm was meant.


MiddleEarthling's photo
Fri 10/15/10 06:16 PM



And, she got it right.

She, Valerie Jarrett, just cost BHO pointslaugh laugh laugh laugh

http://goodmenproject.com/2010/10/14/white-house-calls-homosexuality-a-%E2%80%98lifestyle-choice%E2%80%99/


well,, homosexual/heterosexual FEELINGS may not be a choice,, but last I checked all lifeSTYLES that adults have certainly are the result of choices (good or bad)


It's easy to see how the term 'lifestyle' can be applied to anyone. How individual 'choose' to conduct their lives does make the term applicable to everyone.

The operative word is choice. Using the term lifestyle as representative of a group of people is often the product of misinformation, stereotyping, or bias. The term hardly applies when choice is not part of the equation.

We can not say that being Black, Indian, Iranian and such representa a lifestyle choice anymore that we can say that being a homosexual is a lifestyle choice. That makes a huge differnece.

We do not expect Blacks, Indians, or Asians, to exchange their liberty and their pursuit of happiness in order to be Black, Indian or Asian becasue it's not a choice they can make. Neither is being homosexual or heterosexual a choice.

So while there are still people who 'innocently'use the expression 'lifestyle choice' when referring to the gay community, it is still offensive, but it is a forgivable offence if the individual admits the error and apologises and especially when their other behaviors indicate that no harm was meant.




Well yeah she admitted her error.

The only gay "lifestyle choices" I see are either come out of the closet and face bullying, discriminations and other attacks or stay in the closet and live a lie. Either way seems to take away a person's right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness...hell that may even be in the Declaration of Independence. Might be an American Value then eh?

This is a huge Civil/Human Rights issue.

So, who and what is holding too many Americans back from dropping their hate, their oppositions to giving gays Civil and Human Rights?

Hummmm...dunno...have no idea. Anyone?










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Fri 10/15/10 06:17 PM
all i know is gay or not they are still human beings so...thats my thought:smile:

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