the entire essence of the spirit the constitution was written in, IS THAT "NO SHARED VALUE", IS THE VALUE!

DIVERSITY?

to embrace other's as equal, WITHOUT NEEDING TO HAVE "ANYTHING IN COMMON", OR with NO SHARED VALUE, EXCEPT THAT EACH BE "LIFE".

for the fight to find equal or common or same value's, show no belief that there exist "value already".

this would show one deem value only by what itself deem as the definer of value, SO THEN SHOW NO SIGHT OF VALUE, LEST THERE FOUND SOME THAT ARE "COMMON TO SELF"...

Personally, I have to agree that diversity is one of the greatest values that has been implied in our country's framework since its inception.

That diversity however, is more likely a product of our open immigration policies. Without the vast numbers of immigrants who have come to our shores we would not be nearly so diverse.

However, today we would be hardpressed to get individuals to agree that 'diversity' is a shared American value, even though it is reflected as such in our country's framwork.

PRECISELY!

AGREED!

because the value of other's is trying to be defined, BY LEGISLATION OF DEFINITION, the very thing the founder's tried to keep from occuring.

for the human brain seeks to find value IN ITSELF, so cannot find the FEELING OF VALUE IT WISH...

and this they knew, and so did not "narrow down", the value ANY MORE THAN THEY FELT THEY HAD TO...

the VALUE, WHICH DOTH CREATE A "FEELING OF VALUE" in the human itself, be found when looking for the INTRINSIC VALUE IN OTHER'S, which cannot be done, THE MORE IT BE DEFINED?

the definition of the "proposed value", or what it "should or supposed to be", actually keep the eye of insight from finding it...

for indeed, the human trend now it demand value in self, so of course, collective sight of COLLECTIVE value shall be near nil...

it's as if the framer's gave an inception point, and since that inception point, humanity has been walking further and further from that point, in the attempts to build up from it, but indeed, it would have been to build down from that inception point.

the framers left the verbage of VALUE, or "rights", as "small", THE LEAST DEFINED AS POSSIBLE, on purpose, so as to NOT DEFINE IT, for the more "rights" are defined, the actually less freedom, for defing the "rights", is the natural inclination, of trying to preserve "rights", but the more they are defined, the more they shrink...

it's like the word "good"...

the more define or speak what is good, the less that is actually considered as good?

it a paradox...

like defining "red cars" are "good" cars, automatically makes by default other cars not good cars?

the same be with with "freedom", "rights"...

but, since the human inclination is "greedy", or wanting to protect for itself most, and have what self be defined as GOOD, then humanity has been pushing for more and more definitons that suite ONESELF, OR IT'S GROUP, and so each group that get their "own defined good, then the next steps up, demanding their "brownie button", or themself defined as "good", or their rights more defined, and on and on, and the "rights" actually get less for all?

ok...

it really is hard to put in words, because it's a reverse principle....

it's like the wheel rolling down the highway, looks like it is going backwards, so all try to stop it and make it go the other way, BUT IT WAS ALREADY ROLLING FORWARD....

so the essence being, WE NEED TO SIMPLIFY THE CONSTITUTION TO EVEN MORE SIMPLE THAN WHEN IT WAS WRITTEN!

to GIVE OR CREATE MORE VALUE, OR FREEDOM, OR MORE EQUAL REPRESENTATION....

in keeping with that same tradition, WE WOULD DEFINE IT EVEN LESS THAN THEY DID, NOT MORE....

but, the human inclination, is to TRY TO DEFINE EVERYTHING, BELIEVING THIS ENSURE MORE FREEDOM, OR EQUAL REPRESENTATION?

we have stacks and stacks of billion's of pages of definition's sprung forth from their "few words"....

humanity ITSELF has convoluted the essence to such a degree, that no value can now be found, on top of the heaps and heaps of babble of proposed definition's...

to find the REASON FOR EVERYTHING?

lol...

for every "happening", there are many things that are caused to HAPPEN, or created, so MANY MANY MANY REASONS FOR ANYTHING THAT EXIST AS WELL?

to seek to know one, keep any from knowing what ALL OF THEM be.

Yes, I agree and when I posed the question in the OP, it was not to place limits on 'personal' values, but to show how our views, even when opposite of other views, can still come from a common place - a value within the framework that allows us to form our own views.

I think it's important that we remember that our views are possible because we share common values - like liberty, and justice regardless of whether we think justice is being achieved or not, we still value the ideal of a just society.

As society changes the laws within it are also adjusted, not to change, for example, the value of justice but to make sure justice is serving all members of society equally.

Thanks for making that clearer.