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Topic: Tea Party something new?? Non-racist??
Dragoness Joined Wed 10/17/07 Posts: 23320	Thu 10/14/10 10:24 PM Edited by Dragoness on Thu 10/14/10 10:25 PM
Yes but he is not doing what the majority wants. Politicians don't listen to people much. Maybe they do around election time but most of the year they dont. I am lucky to not currently be residing in the US and I am currently paying 3% income tax. Woo Hoo! he is NEITHER placating politicians(many of whom oppose him) , nor ignoring what people want I happen to believe he is making the best choices he can with the information HE has(which is much different than what the MAJORITY might think they know) however, when it comes to some of the tough decisions, I happen to believe that it would be suicide to let the easily swayed and undereducated(on the scope of the issues) majority call those shots Well what do you call it when about half the nation strongly apposes a bill and it gets passed? I don't call it listening to the people. I am not saying that he listens to or doesn't listen to politicians. I am saying that also those politicians don't listen to their people either. Oh and before he was president he supported the bridge to nowhere over helping Katrina victims so he did his share of pork barreling. Not that I saying he is a pad politician.. they are just all the same IMO. The problem is that health care reform was what he got voted in on. And the false information that people were using to write to the government and complain about were not true so the government could not fix those issues since they didn't exist in the health care bill. The majority wanted health care reform. They wanted the same changes that Obama wanted. Until the propaganda machine started telling lies. Even then those who had a level head still wanted it. I wrote in to my representative to tell them to keep working at the health care reform bill because it was needed. So I wonder how many letter they got like mine. Ha ha i like this. When people act is if they know the reason why 63-67 million people voted for the guy. Just because a politician has opinions and you vote for him doesn't mean you support all his opinions. It means you support some of them more than his opponent. I would argue some people just didn't like Bush and saw McCain as Bush 2.0 and so voted for Obama no matter what his stand was. I also wouldn't call 67 million out of over 307 the majority even if every single person supported HC which there is no way to prove and is just silly to think that. Not to mention the idea of HC can be anything, but once the bill came around people were not pleased. I also would argue that some people thought it would be government run HC like canada or japan and not just government set standards. You could argue that but it wouldn't hold water. If 67 million are more than half of the voting public then they are the ones who matter in the voting process. They along with their fellow minority that didn't win. They are the ones who matter in the changes in this country because they are the ones who act on it and consider this country worth the effort to vote. Second of all, I know you do not believe that there were that many who voted for Obama because he wasn't Bush. Thirdly, it seems government run health care is what the republicans and tea partiers didn't want. So Obama and the dems accommodated them. I would have preferred government run health care myself but I figured I have to compromise.

Chazster Joined Tue 08/28/07 Posts: 6206	Thu 10/14/10 10:38 PM
Yea only the voters matter? Right.. Its our system that causes many not to vote. Here is a prime example. Me. I didn't vote. You know why? 1. I am registered republican but was currently living in NY state. NY state is so blue my vote wouldn't matter anyway so I was better off not leaving work and not staying late. 2. McCain was a crappy candidate. I only liked him marginally more than Obama but not worth wasting a useless vote on. 3. I would have voted had Ron Paul been on my counties ballot or they had a write in option. They didn't. Our government doesn't want to allow me to vote on a candidate that was actually running and I supported. Thanks. You are saying my argument wont hold water? Out of 307 million Americans you dont think I can find some that thought it would be government run HC? Yet you think all Obamas supporters supported HCR.