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it would be nice if all honest careers received 'respect' i think the military deserves a little more... these vets and their dead buddies fought for your right to not care.... I think a job choice is a job choice and anyone doing their job with integrity deserves respect,, I dont think job choices automatically make someone respectworthy, but instead that people take the time to make SOME contribution to the community being a great person earns you my respect, not what your job title is,,, appreciation, is another matter, and I have told many a vet that I appreciate what they do I also appreciate my doctors, my childrens teachers, etc,,,,, i see, you are one of those that don't care that these men and women are fighting and dying so you can be comfortable of here chatting on the internet...thats fine, because they know not everyone considers their sacrifices they make for your freedoms... Where did she say she didn't care? Being in the military is a choice. I support the soldiers and what they're doing for the country. However, I don't think that everyone automatically has to respect someone because they choose to be in the military. well, you should...they are doing it for you...it's that kind of attitude that brings our country down...they have a hard job to do and those kinds of attitudes doesn't help them... |
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it would be nice if all honest careers received 'respect' i think the military deserves a little more... these vets and their dead buddies fought for your right to not care.... I think a job choice is a job choice and anyone doing their job with integrity deserves respect,, I dont think job choices automatically make someone respectworthy, but instead that people take the time to make SOME contribution to the community being a great person earns you my respect, not what your job title is,,, appreciation, is another matter, and I have told many a vet that I appreciate what they do I also appreciate my doctors, my childrens teachers, etc,,,,, i see, you are one of those that don't care that these men and women are fighting and dying so you can be comfortable of here chatting on the internet...thats fine, because they know not everyone considers their sacrifices they make for your freedoms... how does 'appreciate', turn into 'not care'? it isnt a volunteer army, it is a JOB choice for which people are PAID, so it doesnt earn anymore respect from me than any other JOB choice for which people get paid I do however, APPRECIATE the work they do just as I appreciate the work of most hard working people thats just wrong...it sounds like your comparing a military person to a McDonalds employee |
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it would be nice if all honest careers received 'respect' i think the military deserves a little more... these vets and their dead buddies fought for your right to not care.... I think a job choice is a job choice and anyone doing their job with integrity deserves respect,, I dont think job choices automatically make someone respectworthy, but instead that people take the time to make SOME contribution to the community being a great person earns you my respect, not what your job title is,,, appreciation, is another matter, and I have told many a vet that I appreciate what they do I also appreciate my doctors, my childrens teachers, etc,,,,, i see, you are one of those that don't care that these men and women are fighting and dying so you can be comfortable of here chatting on the internet...thats fine, because they know not everyone considers their sacrifices they make for your freedoms... Where did she say she didn't care? Being in the military is a choice. I support the soldiers and what they're doing for the country. However, I don't think that everyone automatically has to respect someone because they choose to be in the military. well, you should...they are doing it for you...it's that kind of attitude that brings our country down...they have a hard job to do and those kinds of attitudes doesn't help them... how is an attitude of appreciation as opposed to idolization bringing the country down |
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it would be nice if all honest careers received 'respect' i think the military deserves a little more... these vets and their dead buddies fought for your right to not care.... I think a job choice is a job choice and anyone doing their job with integrity deserves respect,, I dont think job choices automatically make someone respectworthy, but instead that people take the time to make SOME contribution to the community being a great person earns you my respect, not what your job title is,,, appreciation, is another matter, and I have told many a vet that I appreciate what they do I also appreciate my doctors, my childrens teachers, etc,,,,, i see, you are one of those that don't care that these men and women are fighting and dying so you can be comfortable of here chatting on the internet...thats fine, because they know not everyone considers their sacrifices they make for your freedoms... how does 'appreciate', turn into 'not care'? it isnt a volunteer army, it is a JOB choice for which people are PAID, so it doesnt earn anymore respect from me than any other JOB choice for which people get paid I do however, APPRECIATE the work they do just as I appreciate the work of most hard working people thats just wrong...it sounds like your comparing a military person to a McDonalds employee y shouldnt I, they both made the choice to do a job,,doesnt mean either of them does it well or not,, just that they found employment IF they are doing good service, I appreciate it, I dont ASSUME they do good service just because they enlisted though |
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it would be nice if all honest careers received 'respect' i think the military deserves a little more... these vets and their dead buddies fought for your right to not care.... I think a job choice is a job choice and anyone doing their job with integrity deserves respect,, I dont think job choices automatically make someone respectworthy, but instead that people take the time to make SOME contribution to the community being a great person earns you my respect, not what your job title is,,, appreciation, is another matter, and I have told many a vet that I appreciate what they do I also appreciate my doctors, my childrens teachers, etc,,,,, i see, you are one of those that don't care that these men and women are fighting and dying so you can be comfortable of here chatting on the internet...thats fine, because they know not everyone considers their sacrifices they make for your freedoms... Where did she say she didn't care? Being in the military is a choice. I support the soldiers and what they're doing for the country. However, I don't think that everyone automatically has to respect someone because they choose to be in the military. well, you should...they are doing it for you...it's that kind of attitude that brings our country down...they have a hard job to do and those kinds of attitudes doesn't help them... how is an attitude of appreciation as opposed to idolization bringing the country down |
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it would be nice if all honest careers received 'respect' i think the military deserves a little more... these vets and their dead buddies fought for your right to not care.... I think a job choice is a job choice and anyone doing their job with integrity deserves respect,, I dont think job choices automatically make someone respectworthy, but instead that people take the time to make SOME contribution to the community being a great person earns you my respect, not what your job title is,,, appreciation, is another matter, and I have told many a vet that I appreciate what they do I also appreciate my doctors, my childrens teachers, etc,,,,, i see, you are one of those that don't care that these men and women are fighting and dying so you can be comfortable of here chatting on the internet...thats fine, because they know not everyone considers their sacrifices they make for your freedoms... Where did she say she didn't care? Being in the military is a choice. I support the soldiers and what they're doing for the country. However, I don't think that everyone automatically has to respect someone because they choose to be in the military. well, you should...they are doing it for you...it's that kind of attitude that brings our country down...they have a hard job to do and those kinds of attitudes doesn't help them... how is an attitude of appreciation as opposed to idolization bringing the country down talk about a stretch, a doctor contributes something different than a lawyer, an enlisted man(who could be performing any NUMBER of job duties, not just combat) is also providing yet a different contribution, which is different than someone in a service industry I appreciate my mother and father for all of their sacrifices they went through for MY direct benefit, and they seem more PERSONALLY about me than what a stranger who enlisted in the service for pay does,,, similarly the service industry is full of people who are good (and bad) at waiting on my IMMEDIATE needs, so I appreciate them and I dont appreciate them any LESS than an enlisted man, but that doesnt mean I dont aknowledge the difference in job duties I appreciate everyones contributions and I dont rank them against each other |
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it would be nice if all honest careers received 'respect' i think the military deserves a little more... these vets and their dead buddies fought for your right to not care.... I think a job choice is a job choice and anyone doing their job with integrity deserves respect,, I dont think job choices automatically make someone respectworthy, but instead that people take the time to make SOME contribution to the community being a great person earns you my respect, not what your job title is,,, appreciation, is another matter, and I have told many a vet that I appreciate what they do I also appreciate my doctors, my childrens teachers, etc,,,,, i see, you are one of those that don't care that these men and women are fighting and dying so you can be comfortable of here chatting on the internet...thats fine, because they know not everyone considers their sacrifices they make for your freedoms... Where did she say she didn't care? Being in the military is a choice. I support the soldiers and what they're doing for the country. However, I don't think that everyone automatically has to respect someone because they choose to be in the military. well, you should...they are doing it for you...it's that kind of attitude that brings our country down...they have a hard job to do and those kinds of attitudes doesn't help them... how is an attitude of appreciation as opposed to idolization bringing the country down talk about a stretch, a doctor contributes something different than a lawyer, an enlisted man(who could be performing any NUMBER of job duties, not just combat) is also providing yet a different contribution, which is different than someone in a service industry I appreciate my mother and father for all of their sacrifices they went through for MY direct benefit, and they seem more PERSONALLY about me than what a stranger who enlisted in the service for pay does,,, similarly the service industry is full of people who are good (and bad) at waiting on my IMMEDIATE needs, so I appreciate them and I dont appreciate them any LESS than an enlisted man, but that doesnt mean I dont aknowledge the difference in job duties I appreciate everyones contributions and I dont rank them against each other start putting certain people or groups ahead of others, and you will see what i'm talking about...  
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Historically, in our society, being willing to take a bullet or otherwise die for your fellow countrymen puts you "up". I personally thank and congratulate anyone I meet who has been in the service.
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Historically, in our society, being willing to take a bullet or otherwise die for your fellow countrymen puts you "up". I personally thank and congratulate anyone I meet who has been in the service. i agree with you... but some people just don't understand how we got the freedoms that we have... to each their own, some people will probably never get it |
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Historically, in our society, being willing to take a bullet or otherwise die for your fellow countrymen puts you "up". I personally thank and congratulate anyone I meet who has been in the service. well, it doesnt put you 'up' in my opinion, unless its done for free the PAYCHECK is the payment for the risk, that soldiers arent PROTECTING Me personally(cant do so if they dont know me) but are instead interested in military activities for PAY, I dont assume they are all enlisting out of some community minded , noble, intent volunteer firefighter, those I put on a pedestal citizens patrols, I put on a pedestal they risk life for NO personal gain whatsoever those I KNOW see combat, or have been wounded or died, I put on a pedestal pedestal doesnt pertain to anyone merely for being successfully admitted,,,, military receive a paycheck, they receive enlistment bonuses, they receive free education, they receive perks when they purchase homes and any number of other perks for having a military id, and apparently many also receieve an automatic assumption of bravery and nobility just for enlisting(even if they end up cooking meals in the mess hall or maintaining weapons) if it was all about nobility, there would be no need to entice them with all those perks,,,I doubt they all ASSUME they will actually see combat as I said, if one is military, it only tells me they enlisted, it doesnt tell me they are brave or that they see combat or that they are more noble than anyone else it says they make SOME effort, in some capacity, to contribute,,,which I appreciate like anyone elses job |
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Historically, in our society, being willing to take a bullet or otherwise die for your fellow countrymen puts you "up". I personally thank and congratulate anyone I meet who has been in the service. well, it doesnt put you 'up' in my opinion, unless its done for free the PAYCHECK is the payment for the risk, that soldiers arent PROTECTING Me personally(cant do so if they dont know me) but are instead interested in military activities for PAY, I dont assume they are all enlisting out of some community minded , noble, intent volunteer firefighter, those I put on a pedestal citizens patrols, I put on a pedestal they risk life for NO personal gain whatsoever those I KNOW see combat, or have been wounded or died, I put on a pedestal pedestal doesnt pertain to anyone merely for being successfully admitted,,,, military receive a paycheck, they receive enlistment bonuses, they receive free education, they receive perks when they purchase homes and any number of other perks for having a military id, and apparently many also receieve an automatic assumption of bravery and nobility just for enlisting(even if they end up cooking meals in the mess hall or maintaining weapons) if it was all about nobility, there would be no need to entice them with all those perks,,,I doubt they all ASSUME they will actually see combat as I said, if one is military, it only tells me they enlisted, it doesnt tell me they are brave or that they see combat or that they are more noble than anyone else it says they make SOME effort, in some capacity, to contribute,,,which I appreciate like anyone elses job that's easy to say for someone that's never been in the military |
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Historically, in our society, being willing to take a bullet or otherwise die for your fellow countrymen puts you "up". I personally thank and congratulate anyone I meet who has been in the service. well, it doesnt put you 'up' in my opinion, unless its done for free the PAYCHECK is the payment for the risk, that soldiers arent PROTECTING Me personally(cant do so if they dont know me) but are instead interested in military activities for PAY, I dont assume they are all enlisting out of some community minded , noble, intent volunteer firefighter, those I put on a pedestal citizens patrols, I put on a pedestal they risk life for NO personal gain whatsoever those I KNOW see combat, or have been wounded or died, I put on a pedestal pedestal doesnt pertain to anyone merely for being successfully admitted,,,, military receive a paycheck, they receive enlistment bonuses, they receive free education, they receive perks when they purchase homes and any number of other perks for having a military id, and apparently many also receieve an automatic assumption of bravery and nobility just for enlisting(even if they end up cooking meals in the mess hall or maintaining weapons) if it was all about nobility, there would be no need to entice them with all those perks,,,I doubt they all ASSUME they will actually see combat as I said, if one is military, it only tells me they enlisted, it doesnt tell me they are brave or that they see combat or that they are more noble than anyone else it says they make SOME effort, in some capacity, to contribute,,,which I appreciate like anyone elses job that's easy to say for someone that's never been in the military Ive been a military wife, I know its not just chock full of a bunch of noble selfless people wanting to die for my 'safety',,, I am the sister of a retired military captain and ex seal, and HE even knows not everyone is noble or brave or worthy of some special accolades MERELY by virtue of having enlisted |
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Historically, in our society, being willing to take a bullet or otherwise die for your fellow countrymen puts you "up". I personally thank and congratulate anyone I meet who has been in the service. well, it doesnt put you 'up' in my opinion, unless its done for free the PAYCHECK is the payment for the risk, that soldiers arent PROTECTING Me personally(cant do so if they dont know me) but are instead interested in military activities for PAY, I dont assume they are all enlisting out of some community minded , noble, intent volunteer firefighter, those I put on a pedestal citizens patrols, I put on a pedestal they risk life for NO personal gain whatsoever those I KNOW see combat, or have been wounded or died, I put on a pedestal pedestal doesnt pertain to anyone merely for being successfully admitted,,,, military receive a paycheck, they receive enlistment bonuses, they receive free education, they receive perks when they purchase homes and any number of other perks for having a military id, and apparently many also receieve an automatic assumption of bravery and nobility just for enlisting(even if they end up cooking meals in the mess hall or maintaining weapons) if it was all about nobility, there would be no need to entice them with all those perks,,,I doubt they all ASSUME they will actually see combat as I said, if one is military, it only tells me they enlisted, it doesnt tell me they are brave or that they see combat or that they are more noble than anyone else it says they make SOME effort, in some capacity, to contribute,,,which I appreciate like anyone elses job that's easy to say for someone that's never been in the military Ive been a military wife, I know its not just chock full of a bunch of noble selfless people wanting to die for my 'safety',,, I am the sister of a retired military captain and ex seal, and HE even knows not everyone is noble or brave or worthy of some special accolades MERELY by virtue of having enlisted i have to disagree... sure, there are dorks in the military, and everyones reason for enlisting is different, but the fact is, they had enough balls to possibly put their life on the line for us. they get about 200 dollars a week for this effort to. the officers get more money, of course, but they usually live off base and have more bills to pay as well. a captain in the navy is a high ranking officer, and is paid way more than the common enlisted man. |
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Historically, in our society, being willing to take a bullet or otherwise die for your fellow countrymen puts you "up". I personally thank and congratulate anyone I meet who has been in the service. well, it doesnt put you 'up' in my opinion, unless its done for free the PAYCHECK is the payment for the risk, that soldiers arent PROTECTING Me personally(cant do so if they dont know me) but are instead interested in military activities for PAY, I dont assume they are all enlisting out of some community minded , noble, intent volunteer firefighter, those I put on a pedestal citizens patrols, I put on a pedestal they risk life for NO personal gain whatsoever those I KNOW see combat, or have been wounded or died, I put on a pedestal pedestal doesnt pertain to anyone merely for being successfully admitted,,,, military receive a paycheck, they receive enlistment bonuses, they receive free education, they receive perks when they purchase homes and any number of other perks for having a military id, and apparently many also receieve an automatic assumption of bravery and nobility just for enlisting(even if they end up cooking meals in the mess hall or maintaining weapons) if it was all about nobility, there would be no need to entice them with all those perks,,,I doubt they all ASSUME they will actually see combat as I said, if one is military, it only tells me they enlisted, it doesnt tell me they are brave or that they see combat or that they are more noble than anyone else it says they make SOME effort, in some capacity, to contribute,,,which I appreciate like anyone elses job that's easy to say for someone that's never been in the military Ive been a military wife, I know its not just chock full of a bunch of noble selfless people wanting to die for my 'safety',,, I am the sister of a retired military captain and ex seal, and HE even knows not everyone is noble or brave or worthy of some special accolades MERELY by virtue of having enlisted i have to disagree... sure, there are dorks in the military, and everyones reason for enlisting is different, but the fact is, they had enough balls to possibly put their life on the line for us. they get about 200 dollars a week for this effort to. the officers get more money, of course, but they usually live off base and have more bills to pay as well. a captain in the navy is a high ranking officer, and is paid way more than the common enlisted man. exactly the reasons why merely wearing a uniform makes you no better or worse than anyone else in a uniform(nurse, doctor) or serving their community(service industry, teachers, etc,,) |
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Historically, in our society, being willing to take a bullet or otherwise die for your fellow countrymen puts you "up". I personally thank and congratulate anyone I meet who has been in the service. well, it doesnt put you 'up' in my opinion, unless its done for free the PAYCHECK is the payment for the risk, that soldiers arent PROTECTING Me personally(cant do so if they dont know me) but are instead interested in military activities for PAY, I dont assume they are all enlisting out of some community minded , noble, intent volunteer firefighter, those I put on a pedestal citizens patrols, I put on a pedestal they risk life for NO personal gain whatsoever those I KNOW see combat, or have been wounded or died, I put on a pedestal pedestal doesnt pertain to anyone merely for being successfully admitted,,,, military receive a paycheck, they receive enlistment bonuses, they receive free education, they receive perks when they purchase homes and any number of other perks for having a military id, and apparently many also receieve an automatic assumption of bravery and nobility just for enlisting(even if they end up cooking meals in the mess hall or maintaining weapons) if it was all about nobility, there would be no need to entice them with all those perks,,,I doubt they all ASSUME they will actually see combat as I said, if one is military, it only tells me they enlisted, it doesnt tell me they are brave or that they see combat or that they are more noble than anyone else it says they make SOME effort, in some capacity, to contribute,,,which I appreciate like anyone elses job that's easy to say for someone that's never been in the military Ive been a military wife, I know its not just chock full of a bunch of noble selfless people wanting to die for my 'safety',,, I am the sister of a retired military captain and ex seal, and HE even knows not everyone is noble or brave or worthy of some special accolades MERELY by virtue of having enlisted i have to disagree... sure, there are dorks in the military, and everyones reason for enlisting is different, but the fact is, they had enough balls to possibly put their life on the line for us. they get about 200 dollars a week for this effort to. the officers get more money, of course, but they usually live off base and have more bills to pay as well. a captain in the navy is a high ranking officer, and is paid way more than the common enlisted man. exactly the reasons why merely wearing a uniform makes you no better or worse than anyone else in a uniform(nurse, doctor) or serving their community(service industry, teachers, etc,,) all i can really say to that is PHTTTTTTTTTTT! |
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