Topic: GOP buying Election 2010 with foreign cash? What Obama's tal
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Mon 10/11/10 11:04 AM
President Obama is suggesting that some GOP donors in Election 2010 are using money collected abroad – which would be illegal. But there's no hard evidence yet.

President Obama and other top Democrats in recent days have stepped up attacks on Republican-linked organizations for allegedly using foreign cash donations in Election 2010. Why are they making such inflammatory charges now?

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.Just look at the calendar. Time is short, in electoral terms – the midterm vote is now less than a month away. The Democratic Party needs to do all it can to excite and motivate its own base, since GOP voters are already fired up and ready to go, relatively speaking.

Plus, midterms are usually referendums on the party in power. In an effort to try and avoid sweeping losses, the White House may be trying to change the subject by talking up the foreign money allegations.

Thus the Democratic National Committee has begun airing ads that attack the US Chamber of Commerce as a shill for big business and accuses former Bush administration official Karl Rove, among others, of ties to other organizations that are using donations from overseas to fund campaign activities in America.

“Tell the Bush crowd and the Chamber of Commerce: Stop stealing our democracy," says the DNC advertisement.

'Baseless charges'?
It’s illegal to use foreign money to finance campaign activities in the US. But Democrats as yet have produced no hard evidence of such activity on the part of the US Chamber of Commerce or the Rove-linked American Crossroads group.

Chamber officials have said they receive some money in dues from overseas organizations, but that cash is cordoned off for use in international programs. Labor unions, which are generally supportive of Democrats, often have similar arrangements with foreign affiliates.

“They are tossing out these baseless charges,” said Mr. Rove on an appearance on Fox News Sunday.

Democrats have replied that money is fungible, and that the foreign contributions free up more domestic cash for electoral use.

Meanwhile, the White House has clearly switched into an almost frenzied campaign mode with the election so near and polls showing it is possible that Democrats will lose control of both the House and Senate.

Obama's get-the-vote-out message
Mr. Obama has been exhorting Democrats to rise up and get to the polls for weeks. In his Rolling Stone interview in late September, Obama caught up with his interviewers as they were leaving to say he’d forgotten to tell them that it would be “inexcusable” for Democrats to stand on the sidelines this November.

Last week, the president campaigned in Maryland with Democratic Gov. Martin O’Malley. On Sunday he was in Philadelphia. On Monday he is scheduled to fly to Florida for appearances in Miami aimed at lighting a fire under reluctant Democratic voters.

As to the foreign money issue, while campaigning in Pennsylvania for US Senate candidate Joe Sestak on Sunday, Obama told a Philadelphia crowd that they “deserve to know” who is paying for the electoral effort of GOP-linked groups that are eligible to receive large donations.

Some of that cash could be foreign, said Obama. “You don’t know because they don’t have to disclose,” he said.

All this is possible because of the way electoral law categorizes the different kinds of groups that carry out political activities. Groups that organize themselves as nonprofits, and also fund actions that are not directly linked to partisan politics, are not required to disclose their donors. More narrowly political groups must identify those who give more than $200.

http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politics/The-Vote/2010/1011/GOP-buying-Election-2010-with-foreign-cash-What-Obama-s-talking-about.

I'm getting sick of hearing politicians bashing one side or the other with information that is not true or has not been proven.

They COULD be doing this or they COULD be doing that.

If you don't know then find out! Don't accuse someone of something if you can't prove it.

And yes both side of the isle do it.
I used this story because it's the president doing it and I think he should be setting an example not following with the crowd.

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Mon 10/11/10 11:20 AM
I suspect its a reflexive reaction to the Anti Muslim sentiment surrounding the center near ground zero,,,I remember one on the list of complaints being supposed or possible ties to extremist groups or money,,,


but I agree, I do expect better from OBama,,, he usually delivers for me but not on that one,,,,

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Mon 10/11/10 12:03 PM
Edited by Dragoness on Mon 10/11/10 12:04 PM
Rove is a criminal.

So they are being truthful there.

I suspect Karl Rove will be the center of attention since he is such a backroom, underhanded, etc... type individual.


Give them time to show Rove how he really is. It will be true.

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Mon 10/11/10 12:13 PM

Rove is a criminal.

So they are being truthful there.

I suspect Karl Rove will be the center of attention since he is such a backroom, underhanded, etc... type individual.


Give them time to show Rove how he really is. It will be true.


That's the attitude GUILTY before proven innocent.

Our whole political system is becomeing a JOKE!

Give them time to show Rove how he really is. It will be true.


LOL frustrated Just throw accusations out there with n proof of them being true. Sounds like slander to me.

I suspect Karl Rove will be the center of attention since he is such a backroom, underhanded, etc... type individual.


And congress didn't make any backroom deals with there locked door dealings when it came to healthcare.

PEOPLE NEED TO WAKE UP AND SMELL THE COFFEE!!!!!

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Mon 10/11/10 12:24 PM
You have less proof of what you say than I do.slaphead

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Mon 10/11/10 12:33 PM

You have less proof of what you say than I do.slaphead

I'm not accusing someone of being a criminal.

And what did I say that I don't have proof of?

Dragoness's photo
Mon 10/11/10 12:43 PM
What did you say that you have proof of?

At least Karl Rove has been "too close" for comfort in quite a few illegal activities.
So that makes me more proven.

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Mon 10/11/10 12:52 PM
Edited by TJN on Mon 10/11/10 12:53 PM

What did you say that you have proof of?

At least Karl Rove has been "too close" for comfort in quite a few illegal activities.
So that makes me more proven.


TO FUNNY!!

Opninion is not proof of anything.

Back on topic.

I believe our president should show proof of this happening before accusing it of being done.

Sounds like fear mongering to me.

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Mon 10/11/10 12:55 PM
He is not the only one saying it. I have heard it from others too.

They will investigate if they can.

I have more proof than you did for anything you said. So I am still ahead.

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Mon 10/11/10 01:11 PM

He is not the only one saying it. I have heard it from others too.

They will investigate if they can.

I have more proof than you did for anything you said. So I am still ahead.

LOL How old are we?

I'm not trying to prove anything.

Maybe they should investigate and find proof before saying that it is being done.

It's like you are putting the shoe on the other foot.
You sound like those that ACCUSE Obama of not being a citizen or those that ACCUSE him of being a Muslim. They have NO PROOF yet still try and make it true.

I guess if one keeps telling themselves something over and over and over again it just becomes the truth to them.

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Mon 10/11/10 01:43 PM



Barack Hussein Obama...

willing2's photo
Mon 10/11/10 05:39 PM
The name Hussein is reserved for Muslims only.

msharmony's photo
Mon 10/11/10 11:40 PM

The name Hussein is reserved for Muslims only.



yeah, just like abraham is

its an ARABIC name,,,,:wink:

mightymoe's photo
Mon 10/11/10 11:41 PM


The name Hussein is reserved for Muslims only.



yeah, just like abraham is

its an ARABIC name,,,,:wink:

abraham is jewish

msharmony's photo
Mon 10/11/10 11:47 PM
http://www.thinkbabynames.com/meaning/1/Abraham

The boy's name Abraham \a-bra-

ham,

ab-

raham\ is pronounced AY-bra-ham. It is of Hebrew origin, and the meaning of Abraham is "father of a multitude (of nations)". The Hebrew form is Avraham. Biblical: Abraham, celebrated for his great faith, was the ancestor-father of Israel and some of the Arabic peoples

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Mon 10/11/10 11:51 PM
Foreign money is now worth more than our DEAD PRESIDENTS to some level. Thanks Obama

msharmony's photo
Mon 10/11/10 11:52 PM

Foreign money is now worth more than our DEAD PRESIDENTS to some level. Thanks Obama



foreign money has BEEN worth more before 2009, when I met my exhusband in 2003 , one of his british pound was worth two of our american dollars,,,

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Mon 10/11/10 11:54 PM


Foreign money is now worth more than our DEAD PRESIDENTS to some level. Thanks Obama



foreign money has BEEN worth more before 2009, when I met my exhusband in 2003 , one of his british pound was worth two of our american dollars,,,
Huh? I never knew that.I wander how much Iraqi money is worth? I have some of it.

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Mon 10/11/10 11:56 PM



Foreign money is now worth more than our DEAD PRESIDENTS to some level. Thanks Obama



foreign money has BEEN worth more before 2009, when I met my exhusband in 2003 , one of his british pound was worth two of our american dollars,,,
Huh? I never knew that.I wander how much Iraqi money is worth? I have some of it.


interesting,,,you should check a currency exchange and see what the rates are

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Tue 10/12/10 12:01 AM
Edited by d24 on Tue 10/12/10 12:02 AM




Foreign money is now worth more than our DEAD PRESIDENTS to some level. Thanks Obama



foreign money has BEEN worth more before 2009, when I met my exhusband in 2003 , one of his british pound was worth two of our american dollars,,,
Huh? I never knew that.I wander how much Iraqi money is worth? I have some of it.


interesting,,,you should check a currency exchange and see what the rates are
My cousin brought some home with him.I also have some old Turkish coins. I have tried to look the rates up but I could not find nothing about It?