yea, well... a lot can happen in 14 billion years

She's in the bathroom right now. Did you need to talk to her?

Look in the nearest mirror.

god is looking back at you.

he is with you as he is with me.

Amen.

it would be really sad if there were no god.

just enjoy life while you can...

I think we are


so NO there is no god.

(please don't take offence that I adapted someone elses original comment - she just said it so well.) differnt side of the coin!



Actually, I think, we all come to our own conclusions through different means, but when it comes to true faith in a higher power - I don't think it should matter what anyone else believes, becasue faith(in anything)is an internal construct - it comes from within.

Yes. :o)

No

So...if I'm masturbating, it's really God jerking me off??

Well, depending on what that god is like it could potentially be a lot sadder if there is a god.

For example, in the case of the Biblical God the vast majority of souls go to eternal damnation where there will be wailing and gnashing of teeth.

That's got to be pretty darn sad.

I mean think about it:


Matt.7:14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

Matt. 8:12 But the children of the kingdom shall be cast out into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

Matt.19:24 And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.


According to this religious mythology of a "god" things are far sadder than an atheistic existence could ever be.

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However, if you forget about the word "god" and instead just consider the possibility of a spiritual existence to life. Then you can turn to philosophies like Eastern Mysticism and potentially recognize ideas of eternal life where everyone is a winner and there are no losers.

So if you're seeking a spiritual picture of life that isn't 'sad' then forget about 'god' concepts altogether, and start thinking in terms of a more generalized spiritual existence were you are that. "Tat t'vam asi".

Good point. I mean who wants to go to hell? All the other religions and non-believers would be going to hell. It might not be so great then, to have an afterlife.

Read Romans 2 and rethink that viewpoint. There are those who would say all non-believers are going to hell (another micsonception), but this verse should change their minds.

Just yet another example of how this cannon of writings we call "The Bible" are in constant contradiction with each other.


John.3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.


If any other writings in this cannon of stories conflicts with what John says here then who do we believe? John, or the other author?

Moreover, if only FEW will make it into the Kingdom of God doesn't that say it all?

Does it really matter why the MAJORITY of people are doomed to condemnation, wailing, and the gnashing of teeth?

It's still an extremely sad fate for the MAJORITY of humans.

Because only FEW are going to make it into the Kingdom of God and eternal life according to this religious mythology.

I'm mean, if you're going to believe that this mythology is valid and true, then you're going to have to accept what it claims, right?

And this is indeed the very SAD fate of humanity that it portrays.

Exactly why it might be true, or precisely who those few people might be that are granted eternal life is basically a moot point. The fact still remains that for the majority of humans this is a very sad state of affairs.

Wouldn't it be easier to just post a link to one of your many other similar rants?

Rants?

I point out the fact that the biblical religion is a self-proclaimed sad situation and you call it a 'rant'?

That's rather silly isn't it?

The biblical myth itself has Jesus himself saying that only few will make it into the Kingdom of Heaven.

So to believe otherwise you either need to question the truth of these myths, or the value of the words that have been attributed to Jesus.

The religion demands that most people are indeed doomed to condemnation. Wailing and gnashing of teeth were supposedly the words that Jesus himself used to describe this fate.

If that's not a sad situation I don't know what is.

It's a sad religion that demands by its own proclamation that only a FEW people will make it into the kingdom of God. That can only leave the vast majority to suffer wailing and gnashing of teeth.

I'm supposed to "rejoice" in the teachings of such GREAT NEWS?

Doesn't sound like such great news to me.

You just don't like the fact that I point out the TRUTH of what these fables are actually demanding. You'd rather pretend that I'm just "ranting". But I've posted the very words that came from these fables.

They point to a very dismal outcome for the vast majority of humans.

That's just a fact. Like it or not. I mean, if you're going to believe in these stories at least recognize that they paint a truly SAD situation.

It a very SAD religion. No question about it.

Oh c'mon Abra. While I agree with you on the absurdities of christianity, you do tend to "rant".
Brevity is not your forte'.

We all perceive life differently. What you see as "ranting" I see as "Exquisite Elaboration".

I mean, let's face it, what is Christianity itself? An elaboration of a an old gossip tale. Or a 2000 year old "rant".

In fact, if you read the New Testament all those guys were doing was ranting on and on about a bunch of rumors. So the entire biblical cannon is nothing but a book of rumor rants.

Evangelists are nothing but ranting gossipers who go around repeating the original rants from their original gossip book.

The whole biblical mythology is nothing but a rant.

However, I'm sure that the Christians see it as "Exquisite Elaboration".

Besides,... I love to type in long posts because people actually read them. Thus they get the same idea presented to their mind from various different perspectives.

There can be no question that a lot of people read my posts in their entirety because lot of people respond to just about everything I say.

That's the way the human mind works.

Once it starts reading something it wants to suck up the whole thing in its entirety. Especially in the case of writings as interesting and captivating as mine. Once people start reading my words they become totally mesmerized with the awesome intellectual brilliance of the content. It's just hard to put down a good book once you get started reading it. :bigsimle:

So I write these short-story posts to give people ecstatic pleasure. I enjoy pleasing people and they seem to have become addicted to my writings as well. I have quite a large following. If I published a book it would probably become an instant best-seller simply because it was written by me. The actual content would be moot.

Hello?

Are you still reading this Exquisite Elaboration, or have you run off to masturbate in the sea of ecstasy that has come over you from having read my prose?

Life is grand, ain't it. I mean, just look at what symbols on a screen can do for you. I'm sure that these words have caused thoughts to run through you mind that would have not otherwise become manifest. I'm also sure that emotions have begun to undulate throughout your body. You are forming opinions about what you are reading and your are about to erupt in an opinionated response yourself.

However, in your case, that almost always comes as just a little spurt, doesn't it?

There's something to be said for power released by the cosmic loquacious ejaculation of verbiage that I spew into each post that I manifest into creation through such linguistically artistic ramblings. In fact, that single sentence is longer than most of your posts.

Agree or disagree, it makes no difference because either way you have already participated in the sensual ecstasy of cerebral exchange.