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Topic: Stop the Shots.. Are we Waking up?
Milesoftheusa's photo
Sat 10/09/10 03:24 PM


This i find interesting I refuse all the shots they say we need.

American apperently are Just Saying No to Flu Shots this Year.. We waking up?


http://news.yahoo.com/s/hsn/20101007/hl_hsn/manyamericansplantoskipflushotthisyear

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EmailPrint..By Steven Reinberg
HealthDay Reporter by Steven Reinberg
healthday Reporter – Thu Oct 7, 7:08 pm ET
THURSDAY, Oct. 7 (HealthDay News) -- Although vaccination against influenza can protect people from illness and help prevent the spread of flu, many Americans say they and their children won't be getting a shot this coming season, new surveys reveal.

Despite the attention surrounding last year's outbreak of H1N1 flu, 43 percent of Americans say they will not be getting the vaccine this fall, according to a survey from the National Foundation for Infectious Diseases (NFID).

Another survey from the same group found a third of American mothers saying they have no plans to get a flu shot for their children.

Those decisions could come back to haunt Americans, experts said.

"Flu is serious. Every year millions of people get sick; more than 200,000 people are hospitalized and thousands of people die from influenza," Dr. Thomas R. Frieden, director of the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, said during a Thursday morning press conference. In keeping with CDC guidelines, "everyone over the age of 6 months should get a flu shot," he said.

Flu vaccination remains the best way to protect yourself against the illness, Frieden added.

"There is plenty of vaccine available," he said. "This year we think that the three strains of influenza in the flu vaccine are going to be excellent matches with the flu that's circulating."

This year's shot contains vaccine against the H1N1 pandemic flu that caused a major outbreak in the last flu season, Frieden noted.

"More than 119 million doses [of flu vaccine] have already been distributed in the United States. That's more than 30 million more doses than were distributed by this time last year," Dr. Daniel Jernigan, Deputy Director of CDC's Influenza Division, said during the press conference.

However, as important as flu vaccine is, many people still don't get vaccinated.

Flu expert Dr. Marc Siegel noted that many people who opt not to get a flu shot are falling prey to myths about the vaccine. "It's all because of this nonsense that's been circulating that somehow the flu shot is dangerous," he said. "The fear of the vaccine outweighs the fear of the disease and that's a huge mistake, because the disease is more dangerous than the vaccine."

In addition, children should be vaccinated not only so they won't get the flu, but so they can't spread it, Siegel, an associate professor of medicine at New York University, said. "Children don't have any immunity. They are super-spreaders of the flu," he explained.

According to the NFID telephone survey of more than 1,000 adults, conducted in late August, one big factor in deciding to get vaccinated is a doctor's recommendation. In addition, the desire to protect family members and not having to be laid up for a week were also reasons cited by most people who planned on getting the shot, the survey found.

In addition, 77 percent of Americans are aware that new recommendations support most people getting a flu shot and are planning to get vaccinated. And awareness of the vaccine's effectiveness does seem to boost acceptance, the survey found.

Among mothers, 80 percent said they had not changed their attitude about flu vaccine since last year's H1N1 scare and 65 percent do plan to have their children vaccinated. However, 33 percent don't plan on vaccinating their children, while 2 percent are undecided, according to the survey. The survey was conducted in mid-August and involved more than 600 mothers of children aged 6 to 18.

Among the 43 percent of Americans who don't plan on being vaccinated misconceptions -- and what the researchers call "magical thinking" -- were cited as reasons for not getting a shot. These include mistaken beliefs that there are other ways to protect yourself from flu (71 percent), or the belief that they are healthy and the flu "doesn't worry them" (69 percent).

About half of those who are balking at getting the shot worry that the vaccine may be harmful, while 62 percent believe that the vaccine actually gives you the flu (it doesn't) or side effects. Forty-eight percent don't believe the vaccine will match the flu that is circulating and so won't be effective.

Other misconceptions abound: According to the survey, 62 percent of all Americans mistakenly think the vaccine protects against just one strain of flu, and 34 percent think hand-washing is as effective as the vaccine in preventing influenza.

"The idea that you are not going to spread the flu by washing your hands has never been proven," Siegal noted.

The story is different for those folks charged with advising people on flu: doctors.

In a separate NFID online survey of 400 physicians, conducted in mid-September, an overwhelming 90 percent said they planned to get vaccinated. Three percent remained uncertain and less than 2 percent of doctors said they would not get vaccinated.

In addition, most doctors recommend flu shots to their families, friends and patients, the survey found.

According to NFID, each year flu causes more than 200,000 hospitalizations and between 3,330 and 49,000 deaths, depending on the severity of circulating strains.

mightymoe's photo
Sat 10/09/10 03:27 PM
i've never had a flu shot in my life, and i'm still alive....

msharmony's photo
Sat 10/09/10 03:29 PM
nice article, thanx

I am hesitant to fill my child with so many vaccines myself, I try to get medical opinions from family before I succumb to the latest 'shot'

Milesoftheusa's photo
Sat 10/09/10 03:31 PM
China has been big on population Control.

I truely believe we are 2.

Hitlers Ideas of survival of the fittests is just not letting it be in the headlines now.

The CDC dictates to us and mainly Public Schools Vaccinations that our children need.

I can see this happening its not even funny.

What? Sterilization of Public school Children 6through the Govt. Mandated Vaccines they must have.

Like i have said before I am have crazy. well maybe 1/2 is a little offdrinker

Watch this video that good ole TruTv did with Jesse Ventura.

You will need to watch #5 is the one i am talking about.


Then ask yourself is Hitlers Idea's alive and well?

Thats all Folks..frustrated


http://www.newsfocus.org/CTJV_bilderbergs.htm

msharmony's photo
Sat 10/09/10 03:33 PM
my niece lives an all natural life and she is very healthy, she was able to get some waiver from the school to allow her son to enter even though he is not vaccinated


I think there is ALOT of pressure to go with the status quo and not enough information about alternatives,,,

mightymoe's photo
Sat 10/09/10 03:33 PM

nice article, thanx

I am hesitant to fill my child with so many vaccines myself, I try to get medical opinions from family before I succumb to the latest 'shot'


i try not to let my kids take anything... the body will heal most things on its own...plus, i have a big distrust for doctors and pharmaceuticals...

EquusDancer's photo
Sat 10/09/10 03:45 PM
I'm all for population control. I agree with what China is doing. Zero population growth works perfect for me. I think women and men who want welfare should be sterilized while on it.

I also think those who don't want vaccines will cull themselves naturally as well. I just want them to understand they can't sue or scream about it if or when their kid or other family member dies. I also don't want to be paying for it if the kid or adult is in the hospital sick because of it.

Works for me.

msharmony's photo
Sat 10/09/10 03:46 PM
Edited by msharmony on Sat 10/09/10 03:47 PM
people should be given that control over their own health,,rather to immunize or not,, but I agree others shouldnt be culpable if they decide not to



this is my niece, of whom I am very proud, and who lives a natural lifestyle with her little boy

http://www.facebook.com/#!/video/video.php?v=1394779948624

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Sat 10/09/10 04:11 PM

I'm all for population control. I agree with what China is doing. Zero population growth works perfect for me. I think women and men who want welfare should be sterilized while on it.

I also think those who don't want vaccines will cull themselves naturally as well. I just want them to understand they can't sue or scream about it if or when their kid or other family member dies. I also don't want to be paying for it if the kid or adult is in the hospital sick because of it.

Works for me.



I agree and say..."Thank you for not breeding"
flowerforyou

Milesoftheusa's photo
Sat 10/09/10 04:31 PM

people should be given that control over their own health,,rather to immunize or not,, but I agree others shouldnt be culpable if they decide not to



this is my niece, of whom I am very proud, and who lives a natural lifestyle with her little boy

http://www.facebook.com/#!/video/video.php?v=1394779948624


Nice video.. kept getting an error for the direct link for some reason but copy and paste worked finedrinker flowerforyou

EquusDancer's photo
Sat 10/09/10 05:22 PM


I'm all for population control. I agree with what China is doing. Zero population growth works perfect for me. I think women and men who want welfare should be sterilized while on it.

I also think those who don't want vaccines will cull themselves naturally as well. I just want them to understand they can't sue or scream about it if or when their kid or other family member dies. I also don't want to be paying for it if the kid or adult is in the hospital sick because of it.

Works for me.



I agree and say..."Thank you for not breeding"
flowerforyou


Lol! You are welcome. :smile:

EquusDancer's photo
Sat 10/09/10 05:28 PM


people should be given that control over their own health,,rather to immunize or not,, but I agree others shouldnt be culpable if they decide not to



this is my niece, of whom I am very proud, and who lives a natural lifestyle with her little boy

http://www.facebook.com/#!/video/video.php?v=1394779948624


Sadly I can't pull the link.

By natural, do you mean into herbs as well, or just staying away from vaccines?

I certainly agree with people needing to be aware of their own medical stuff. My folks were/are into it, though we had our basics, and I have remained that way. I use herbals before any pharmaceuticals/medical, though I also use the pharma/medical when needed. Balance in all things.

msharmony's photo
Sat 10/09/10 05:30 PM



people should be given that control over their own health,,rather to immunize or not,, but I agree others shouldnt be culpable if they decide not to



this is my niece, of whom I am very proud, and who lives a natural lifestyle with her little boy

http://www.facebook.com/#!/video/video.php?v=1394779948624


Sadly I can't pull the link.

By natural, do you mean into herbs as well, or just staying away from vaccines?

I certainly agree with people needing to be aware of their own medical stuff. My folks were/are into it, though we had our basics, and I have remained that way. I use herbals before any pharmaceuticals/medical, though I also use the pharma/medical when needed. Balance in all things.




yes, she actually has created her own all natural skin care products, soaps,,etc,,,

she is very into it

willing2's photo
Sat 10/09/10 06:25 PM
The absolute best natural soap is soap made with rendered human fat.

Loaded with moisturizing nutrients.

mightymoe's photo
Sat 10/09/10 06:42 PM

The absolute best natural soap is soap made with rendered human fat.

Loaded with moisturizing nutrients.


there is plenty of that in Houston to go around...

damnitscloudy's photo
Sat 10/09/10 06:50 PM
It would help if people washed their hands after using the bathroom. I will say that most people just walk out after doing their business. And doctors ask why people are always sick in my state of Ky.

willing2's photo
Sat 10/09/10 06:54 PM


The absolute best natural soap is soap made with rendered human fat.

Loaded with moisturizing nutrients.


there is plenty of that in Houston to go around...

I like living a fairly natural lifestyle.

I eat my dead animals mostly baked or grilled.

I bathe at least once a week whether I need it or not and I don't kiss asss on the first date.smokin

willing2's photo
Sat 10/09/10 06:59 PM

It would help if people washed their hands after using the bathroom. I will say that most people just walk out after doing their business. And doctors ask why people are always sick in my state of Ky.

A Navy dude was at the urinal and a Marine came up to use the one next to him.

The Marine finished first and was headed out of the bathroom when the Navy guy hollered out told him,"In the Navy, they teach us to wash our hands after we take a leak."

The Marine replied,"In the Marines, we are taught not to pisss on our hands.":wink:

mightymoe's photo
Sat 10/09/10 07:04 PM


It would help if people washed their hands after using the bathroom. I will say that most people just walk out after doing their business. And doctors ask why people are always sick in my state of Ky.

A Navy dude was at the urinal and a Marine came up to use the one next to him.

The Marine finished first and was headed out of the bathroom when the Navy guy hollered out told him,"In the Navy, they teach us to wash our hands after we take a leak."

The Marine replied,"In the Marines, we are taught not to pisss on our hands.":wink:


dam jarheads...lol

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Sat 10/09/10 07:11 PM
I got my daughter the Texas immunization exemption form. She doesn't have to take any vaccines. As far as the flue shot goes, how are we supposed to evolve and build immunity's to disease if we never allow ourselves to get sick and fight it off? I say let your body do the work! It's a part of life! lol

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