Topic: Fire Fighters For 9-11 Truth
MiddleEarthling's photo
Sun 10/03/10 08:45 AM
Edited by MiddleEarthling on Sun 10/03/10 09:11 AM
Fire Fighters For 9-11 Truth

"Fellow Firefighters, A great tragedy befell our community on September 11, 2001, an unprecedented 343 deaths in the line of duty. As horrible as that toll is, if there were a rational explanation for it, we could accept it and mourn. We all understood the risk we accepted when we took the oath of office, that chance might cut short our lives when we placed ourselves in harm’s way in the public’s service. This is what we are paid for and it is our honor. However, in short, the official explanation of the events of that day are not only insufficient, they are fantastic and cannot bear rational examination. We are asked to believe that on that day three structural steel buildings, which have never before in history collapsed because of fire, fell neatly into their basements at the speed of gravity, their concrete reduced to dust. We are asked to believe that jet fuel (kerosene) can melt steel. We are asked to believe that the most sophisticated air defense system in the world, that responded to sixty-eight emergencies in the year prior to 9-11 in less than twenty minutes allowed aircraft to wander about for up to an hour and a half. We are asked to believe that the steel and titanium components of an aircraft that supposedly hit the Pentagon “evaporated”. There is much, much more if anyone cares to look into it. Trade Tower #7 by itself is the “smoking gun”. Not hit by an aircraft, with only a few relatively small fires, it came down in a classic crimp and implosion, going straight into its basement, something only very precise demolition can accomplish, which takes days if not weeks to prepare. The 9-11 Commission didn’t even mention it, and F.E.M.A. actually stated they DIDN’T KNOW WHY IT COLLAPSED AND LEFT IT AT THAT. Brothers, I know that the implications of the above are hard, almost unthinkable, but the official explanation is utter nonsense, and three hundred and forty three murdered brothers are crying out for justice. Demand a genuine investigation into the events of September 11!

-Anton Vodvarka, Lt. FDNY (ret)"


"NOW, HOW WOULD YOU INVESTIGATE?

Look at the facts of the WTC, specifically Tower 7, collapses:

1) Terrorists used explosives on WTC 1 in 1993.

2) Over 118 first responders reported hearing explosions before all three collapses, many said it sounded like the “bang-bang-bang” you hear during a demolition.

3) We have video, photographic and audio evidence of explosions after the impact and before collapse.

4) Live news was reporting multiple explosions, and the possibility terrorists also planted explosives.

5) Barry Jennings, the Emergency Coordinator for the NY Housing Authority reported explosions in Tower 7. He also reported being knocked down by explosions prior to the collapse of the tower.

6) Molten steel AND concrete were found at Ground Zero “remember, hydrocarbon fires do not burn hot enough to melt steel or concrete.”N.F.P.A. 921- 19.2.4 Exotic Accelerants states that molten steel and concrete could indicate the use of exotic accelerants, specifically Thermite.

7) WTC 7 was the first concrete and steel high rise to collapse during a fire that had not been struck by an aircraft. It was determined not to be significantly damaged by the falling debris, and diesel fuel tanks DID NOT contribute significantly to the fire (according to NIST final report 2008).

So, with all these indicators, would you test for exotic accelerants/explosive residue/Thermite? How could you confirm or rule out the possibility terrorists planted explosives in addition to the aircraft hits?

Why does N.I.S.T. REFUSE to this day to test for exotic accelerants in the most heinous crime in U.S. history? With the first high rise building collapses in history, why would N.I.S.T. NOT test for accelerants? Especially, with so many indicators, one in which we have lost so many lives, so many Brothers, so many Freedoms, and our Economy. I have not found a single fire investigator who can give a reason other than they didn’t want to find exotic accelerants or they were incompetent! Well, if it was incompetence, we can go back and still test. These scientists have tested…read their results!!

If you can’t answer why, then please take the time to investigate. Browse our website, and please sign the petition. Our communities trust us. If we let them know this is not how professionals investigate, or how we treat our Brothers and Sisters who gave so much, they will listen. Also, please visit www.FealGoodFoundation.com and learn how to help our Brothers and Sisters in need.

Many of our Brothers and Sisters are sick and dying from their exposures at Ground Zero, our Country is crumbling. I am asking you to do something much more difficult than fighting a fire. I am asking you to be as professional as you would be on any emergency call. I am asking you to review the evidence surrounding 9-11. I am asking you to join us in demanding an investigation that follows National Standards, and passage of the 9/11 Health and Compensation Act to take care of the sick Ground Zero workers. I am asking you to stand with us to help SAVE OUR BROTHERS, SISTERS AND OUR COUNTRY!"

Respectfully,

Erik Lawyer

http://firefightersfor911truth.org/

Videos here:

http://firefightersfor911truth.org/?cat=13

msharmony's photo
Sun 10/03/10 08:56 AM
I thought they already established that one building was 'pulled' or blown on purpose,,,,,

mightymoe's photo
Sun 10/03/10 09:21 AM

I thought they already established that one building was 'pulled' or blown on purpose,,,,,


http://www.debunking911.com/pull.htm

boredinaz06's photo
Sun 10/03/10 09:33 AM



Anyone who believes that our government would do something like this on our own soil is hyper retarded.

Bestinshow's photo
Sun 10/03/10 12:58 PM
Edited by Bestinshow on Sun 10/03/10 01:01 PM
Anyone who thinks modern skyscrapers are prone to total collapse at free fall speed are misinformed.

Redykeulous's photo
Sun 10/03/10 02:37 PM
I am asking you to join us in demanding an investigation that follows National Standards, and

passage of the 9/11 Health and Compensation Act to take care of the sick Ground Zero workers. I am asking you to stand with us to help SAVE OUR BROTHERS, SISTERS AND OUR COUNTRY!"


On September 29th the 9/11 Health and Compensation Act passed in the House, after failing (believe it or not) in July.
The results of the recent House vote: Passed 268-160, 5 not voting
The division of votes: 1 D and 4 R not voting
Democrat: Aye = 251 No = 3
Republican: Aye = 17 No = 157

I have not done any research to determine the reasoning of Republicans to be against this bill – not looking for an argument so much as I’m trying to understand.

Considering the major disturbance of citizens over a Masque venture a few blocks away from the site where the HEROS of the day were first responders, and the number of awards and praise lavished on those whose altruism seemed to have no bounds – it seems phenomenally contradictory that the major portion of all republicans would be lobbying for their representatives to vote against this bill.

The amount of evidence that positively relates illness of these first responders to the events of 9/11 seems pretty solid.

However, I wonder – given the hundreds of thousands of people of all levels of education and skill questioning the formal inquiry process of 9/11 events – Could a NEW highly detailed, and organized inquiry find even more evidence linking illness in first responders and citizens living in the area to the events beginning on 9/11?

Could there have been chemicals or chemical reactions between currently “unknown” reasons behind the events and illness? Until we are satisfied that every possible detail has been covered and explained, how can we know?

So why do republicans want to deny their nations heroes adequate health, disability, and death benefits, when those same republicans would declare them heroes, and claim to be fighting for their honor by denying the free expression of religion? (i.e. building a Masque in close proximity to the event site? (contradictory, hypocracy, or am I missing some information to make a bettter connection?)


MiddleEarthling's photo
Sun 10/03/10 03:28 PM
Edited by MiddleEarthling on Sun 10/03/10 03:37 PM

I am asking you to join us in demanding an investigation that follows National Standards, and

passage of the 9/11 Health and Compensation Act to take care of the sick Ground Zero workers. I am asking you to stand with us to help SAVE OUR BROTHERS, SISTERS AND OUR COUNTRY!"


On September 29th the 9/11 Health and Compensation Act passed in the House, after failing (believe it or not) in July.
The results of the recent House vote: Passed 268-160, 5 not voting
The division of votes: 1 D and 4 R not voting
Democrat: Aye = 251 No = 3
Republican: Aye = 17 No = 157

I have not done any research to determine the reasoning of Republicans to be against this bill – not looking for an argument so much as I’m trying to understand.

Considering the major disturbance of citizens over a Masque venture a few blocks away from the site where the HEROS of the day were first responders, and the number of awards and praise lavished on those whose altruism seemed to have no bounds – it seems phenomenally contradictory that the major portion of all republicans would be lobbying for their representatives to vote against this bill.

The amount of evidence that positively relates illness of these first responders to the events of 9/11 seems pretty solid.

However, I wonder – given the hundreds of thousands of people of all levels of education and skill questioning the formal inquiry process of 9/11 events – Could a NEW highly detailed, and organized inquiry find even more evidence linking illness in first responders and citizens living in the area to the events beginning on 9/11?

Could there have been chemicals or chemical reactions between currently “unknown” reasons behind the events and illness? Until we are satisfied that every possible detail has been covered and explained, how can we know?

So why do republicans want to deny their nations heroes adequate health, disability, and death benefits, when those same republicans would declare them heroes, and claim to be fighting for their honor by denying the free expression of religion? (i.e. building a Masque in close proximity to the event site? (contradictory, hypocracy, or am I missing some information to make a bettter connection?)




We owe a lot to the responders that day. Nice post.

The GOP vote no on everything as an agenda and I am not sure their vote for the bill would have exposed anything of interest to 9-11 truth but it's more disrepsectful of them to deny the help the responders need. Incredible huh?

There is a fund raising site for the responders:

http://911blogger.com/node/8919

~~~

Did you know that not ONE person was fired or held accountable for the failures to prevent the 9-11 attacks? Not ONE that I know of...only people to lose their jobs were people who asked questions...mostly professors.

A blogger from Japan:

"In my country the minister for foreign affairs had to resign because he failed to tell the public in time when some journalists were taken hostage in Iraq, they were rescued , but he still lost his post just for not telling in time.

In Japan the minister of transportation resigned because a few trains were a few minutes late. No dead people, but he resigned.

9/11 was not the first time planes went of the course. There are written manuals with instructions for what to do in that case.
If the reason for 9/11 was incompetence tell me who was fired ?
3000 dead and not 1 incompetent fired ?"

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread295401/pg1




boredinaz06's photo
Sun 10/03/10 05:37 PM

I thought they already established that one building was 'pulled' or blown on purpose,,,,,


They were, by those filthy muslim terrorists!

s1owhand's photo
Sun 10/03/10 06:33 PM
Penn and Teller!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcrF346sS_I

This is pretty much what I think about these inane
conspiracy theories.

Do not make conspiracy theories about this terrorist
attack. The evidence is overwhelming and well analyzed.
There is no proof whatsoever that any of the conspiracy
theories have any basis at all.

http://www.debunking911.com/

These are the facts...

happy

msharmony's photo
Mon 10/04/10 01:48 AM


I thought they already established that one building was 'pulled' or blown on purpose,,,,,


They were, by those filthy muslim terrorists!



nah, by the building owner,,

InvictusV's photo
Mon 10/04/10 05:44 AM
Why does there need to be a formal investigation when all the evidence provided by the truthers is so overwhelming?

Missiles built to look like planes..

thermite.. thermate.. super thermite... nano thermite..

Buildings collapsing at free fall speed..

concrete crushed into dust..

explosions heard and smoke coming out of broken windows..

the Air Force not shooting down missiles disguised to look like civilian planes that were not occupied by the people that were supposed to be on the actual planes.

Ted Olsen is a damn good actor!!


I mean, come on.. With that kind of evidence how could anyone disagree?



MiddleEarthling's photo
Mon 10/04/10 05:18 PM
Edited by MiddleEarthling on Mon 10/04/10 05:19 PM

Why does there need to be a formal investigation when all the evidence provided by the truthers is so overwhelming?

Missiles built to look like planes..

thermite.. thermate.. super thermite... nano thermite..

Buildings collapsing at free fall speed..

concrete crushed into dust..

explosions heard and smoke coming out of broken windows..

the Air Force not shooting down missiles disguised to look like civilian planes that were not occupied by the people that were supposed to be on the actual planes.

Ted Olsen is a damn good actor!!


I mean, come on.. With that kind of evidence how could anyone disagree?





Oh, thanks for the lead-in!



POOF! BAM! I FALL DOWN! Look at this pic and tell me that this is not an explosion...the concrete pilverizing into dust...the building's top floors and a fire cause this explostion?