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A Massachusetts middle school
field trip to a local mosque has sparked controversy after a video surfaced showing some students participating in a Muslim prayer service during the visit. Several parents complained to the school after the video, shot by a parent during the May 27 trip, was made public Wednesday. It shows a five sixth-grade boys kneeling, bowing their heads, and engaging in a prayer ritual at Islamic Society of Boston Community Center, the Boston Globe reported. Wellesley School Superintendent Bella Wong apologized to parents in a letter Thursday and said that allowing the children to participate in the service was a mistake. "It was not the intent for students to be able to participate in any of the religious practices," Wong told the Boston Globe. "The fact that any students were allowed to do so in this case was an error." The video was released by Americans for Peace and Tolerance, a group that has been critical of the center in the past, after the group received it from a mother who recorded it while chaperoning the trip, the Globe reported. "If a Catholic priest took school kids to a church and said, 'Let's teach them about Catholicism,' and the kids kneeled before altar, took wine and the host, the furor would be visible from outer space," the group's director, Dennis Hale, told the paper. HAHAHAHAHA... Bilal Kaleem, president of the Muslim American Society of Boston, which runs the center, said all the prayer was voluntary. "Certainly in our tours we do not invite kids to take part, but if someone wants to come pray and take part, we shouldn't prevent them," Kaleem told the Globe. "It's more an issue with the school." The trip was part of a social studies course, "Enduring Beliefs in the World Today," and also included trips to a synagogue, a gospel musical performance, and a meeting with Hindu religious leaders, Wong told the Globe. In the future teachers will give "more clear guidance to students to better define what is allowed to fulfill the purpose of observation," she said in the letter to parents. Rules are rules, huh...lol |
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Too bad they didn't visit a Church of Satan and participated in a ritual sacrifice!
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Too bad they didn't visit a Church of Satan and participated in a ritual sacrifice! oh yea... that might have made MSNBC then... 
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Too bad they didn't visit a Church of Satan and participated in a ritual sacrifice! oh yea... that might have made MSNBC then...
MSNBC????? And people want to call FOX retarded! MSNBC is LIBERAL CENTRAL! |
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Too bad they didn't visit a Church of Satan and participated in a ritual sacrifice! oh yea... that might have made MSNBC then...
MSNBC????? And people want to call FOX retarded! MSNBC is LIBERAL CENTRAL! 
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Too bad they didn't visit a Church of Satan and participated in a ritual sacrifice! and thats not on their "to do" list... They should visit every religion |
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Edited by
Atlantis75
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A Massachusetts middle school field trip to a local mosque has sparked controversy after a video surfaced showing some students participating in a Muslim prayer service during the visit. Several parents complained to the school after the video, shot by a parent during the May 27 trip, was made public Wednesday. It shows a five sixth-grade boys kneeling, bowing their heads, and engaging in a prayer ritual at Islamic Society of Boston Community Center, the Boston Globe reported. Wellesley School Superintendent Bella Wong apologized to parents in a letter Thursday and said that allowing the children to participate in the service was a mistake. "It was not the intent for students to be able to participate in any of the religious practices," Wong told the Boston Globe. "The fact that any students were allowed to do so in this case was an error." The video was released by Americans for Peace and Tolerance, a group that has been critical of the center in the past, after the group received it from a mother who recorded it while chaperoning the trip, the Globe reported. "If a Catholic priest took school kids to a church and said, 'Let's teach them about Catholicism,' and the kids kneeled before altar, took wine and the host, the furor would be visible from outer space," the group's director, Dennis Hale, told the paper. HAHAHAHAHA... Bilal Kaleem, president of the Muslim American Society of Boston, which runs the center, said all the prayer was voluntary. "Certainly in our tours we do not invite kids to take part, but if someone wants to come pray and take part, we shouldn't prevent them," Kaleem told the Globe. "It's more an issue with the school." The trip was part of a social studies course, "Enduring Beliefs in the World Today," and also included trips to a synagogue, a gospel musical performance, and a meeting with Hindu religious leaders, Wong told the Globe. In the future teachers will give "more clear guidance to students to better define what is allowed to fulfill the purpose of observation," she said in the letter to parents. Rules are rules, huh...lol Bilal Kaleem, president of the Muslim American Society of Boston, which runs the center, said all the prayer was voluntary.
So they were not forced to do it. So which is worse? Preventing them to do it or force them to do it. I thought this is USA and everybody has the right to do whatever he wants, accordance to the law. Maybe the school and the teacher should have said guidlines before the trip, "not to participate" and than we would be reading about "School won't allow children to pray whatever religion they pick". |
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A Massachusetts middle school field trip to a local mosque has sparked controversy after a video surfaced showing some students participating in a Muslim prayer service during the visit. Several parents complained to the school after the video, shot by a parent during the May 27 trip, was made public Wednesday. It shows a five sixth-grade boys kneeling, bowing their heads, and engaging in a prayer ritual at Islamic Society of Boston Community Center, the Boston Globe reported. Wellesley School Superintendent Bella Wong apologized to parents in a letter Thursday and said that allowing the children to participate in the service was a mistake. "It was not the intent for students to be able to participate in any of the religious practices," Wong told the Boston Globe. "The fact that any students were allowed to do so in this case was an error." The video was released by Americans for Peace and Tolerance, a group that has been critical of the center in the past, after the group received it from a mother who recorded it while chaperoning the trip, the Globe reported. "If a Catholic priest took school kids to a church and said, 'Let's teach them about Catholicism,' and the kids kneeled before altar, took wine and the host, the furor would be visible from outer space," the group's director, Dennis Hale, told the paper. HAHAHAHAHA... Bilal Kaleem, president of the Muslim American Society of Boston, which runs the center, said all the prayer was voluntary. "Certainly in our tours we do not invite kids to take part, but if someone wants to come pray and take part, we shouldn't prevent them," Kaleem told the Globe. "It's more an issue with the school." The trip was part of a social studies course, "Enduring Beliefs in the World Today," and also included trips to a synagogue, a gospel musical performance, and a meeting with Hindu religious leaders, Wong told the Globe. In the future teachers will give "more clear guidance to students to better define what is allowed to fulfill the purpose of observation," she said in the letter to parents. Rules are rules, huh...lol Bilal Kaleem, president of the Muslim American Society of Boston, which runs the center, said all the prayer was voluntary.
So they were not forced to do it. So which is worse? Preventing them to do it or force them to do it. I thought this is USA and everybody has the right to do whatever he wants, accordance to the law. no, the law is no religion at school or school sponsored activities. |
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A Massachusetts middle school field trip to a local mosque has sparked controversy after a video surfaced showing some students participating in a Muslim prayer service during the visit. Several parents complained to the school after the video, shot by a parent during the May 27 trip, was made public Wednesday. It shows a five sixth-grade boys kneeling, bowing their heads, and engaging in a prayer ritual at Islamic Society of Boston Community Center, the Boston Globe reported. Wellesley School Superintendent Bella Wong apologized to parents in a letter Thursday and said that allowing the children to participate in the service was a mistake. "It was not the intent for students to be able to participate in any of the religious practices," Wong told the Boston Globe. "The fact that any students were allowed to do so in this case was an error." The video was released by Americans for Peace and Tolerance, a group that has been critical of the center in the past, after the group received it from a mother who recorded it while chaperoning the trip, the Globe reported. "If a Catholic priest took school kids to a church and said, 'Let's teach them about Catholicism,' and the kids kneeled before altar, took wine and the host, the furor would be visible from outer space," the group's director, Dennis Hale, told the paper. HAHAHAHAHA... Bilal Kaleem, president of the Muslim American Society of Boston, which runs the center, said all the prayer was voluntary. "Certainly in our tours we do not invite kids to take part, but if someone wants to come pray and take part, we shouldn't prevent them," Kaleem told the Globe. "It's more an issue with the school." The trip was part of a social studies course, "Enduring Beliefs in the World Today," and also included trips to a synagogue, a gospel musical performance, and a meeting with Hindu religious leaders, Wong told the Globe. In the future teachers will give "more clear guidance to students to better define what is allowed to fulfill the purpose of observation," she said in the letter to parents. Rules are rules, huh...lol Bilal Kaleem, president of the Muslim American Society of Boston, which runs the center, said all the prayer was voluntary.
So they were not forced to do it. So which is worse? Preventing them to do it or force them to do it. I thought this is USA and everybody has the right to do whatever he wants, accordance to the law. no, the law is no religion at school or school sponsored activities. As i said above. Aren't there guidelines during a field trip? "Don't feed the animals" - for Zoo visit, "don't talk to the convicts" - In the jail visit, don't pray at the churches - during religion expedition. |
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A Massachusetts middle school field trip to a local mosque has sparked controversy after a video surfaced showing some students participating in a Muslim prayer service during the visit. Several parents complained to the school after the video, shot by a parent during the May 27 trip, was made public Wednesday. It shows a five sixth-grade boys kneeling, bowing their heads, and engaging in a prayer ritual at Islamic Society of Boston Community Center, the Boston Globe reported. Wellesley School Superintendent Bella Wong apologized to parents in a letter Thursday and said that allowing the children to participate in the service was a mistake. "It was not the intent for students to be able to participate in any of the religious practices," Wong told the Boston Globe. "The fact that any students were allowed to do so in this case was an error." The video was released by Americans for Peace and Tolerance, a group that has been critical of the center in the past, after the group received it from a mother who recorded it while chaperoning the trip, the Globe reported. "If a Catholic priest took school kids to a church and said, 'Let's teach them about Catholicism,' and the kids kneeled before altar, took wine and the host, the furor would be visible from outer space," the group's director, Dennis Hale, told the paper. HAHAHAHAHA... Bilal Kaleem, president of the Muslim American Society of Boston, which runs the center, said all the prayer was voluntary. "Certainly in our tours we do not invite kids to take part, but if someone wants to come pray and take part, we shouldn't prevent them," Kaleem told the Globe. "It's more an issue with the school." The trip was part of a social studies course, "Enduring Beliefs in the World Today," and also included trips to a synagogue, a gospel musical performance, and a meeting with Hindu religious leaders, Wong told the Globe. In the future teachers will give "more clear guidance to students to better define what is allowed to fulfill the purpose of observation," she said in the letter to parents. Rules are rules, huh...lol Bilal Kaleem, president of the Muslim American Society of Boston, which runs the center, said all the prayer was voluntary.
So they were not forced to do it. So which is worse? Preventing them to do it or force them to do it. I thought this is USA and everybody has the right to do whatever he wants, accordance to the law. no, the law is no religion at school or school sponsored activities. As i said above. Aren't there guidelines during a field trip? "Don't feed the animals" - for Zoo visit, "don't talk to the convicts" - In the jail visit, don't pray at the churches - during religion expedition. i don't see the big problem with it, but laws are laws...separation of church and state... when i was in school, we started everyday with a prayer and a pledge of allegiance...but that pissed someone off, so it was banned...so if they can't pray to god, they can't pray to allah, buddah, devil, or whoever... if it is a school sponsored activity, it is a nono, regardless if it forced or not. kids have to follow school rules, workers have to follow office policy, soldiers have to abide by military policy. i guess they either thought that kids could get away with it, or just didn't know...or they were scared to piss the muslims off by saying no... |
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I don't know where I stand on this. Granted I wouldn't sign off on my child to take a field trip to a Mosque BUT with that said if the school interfear's with the students praying or religion, well I don't think they can do that. I believe there is a very famous document that this country was founded on, and well the first ammmendment says it all.
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The parents signed off on a religious expedition. What did they expect?
Also they were praying to the same god as the Christians anyway so the only ones who should be offended are the atheists. But I doubt it is them who are crying foul. |
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I don't know where I stand on this. Granted I wouldn't sign off on my child to take a field trip to a Mosque BUT with that said if the school interfear's with the students praying or religion, well I don't think they can do that. I believe there is a very famous document that this country was founded on, and well the first ammmendment says it all. i agree... i wouldn't want my kids to not like muslims just because i do... they need to make up their own minds on things, and there is that 1st amendment thing too... |
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The parents signed off on a religious expedition. What did they expect? Also they were praying to the same god as the Christians anyway so the only ones who should be offended are the atheists. But I doubt it is them who are crying foul. |
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The parents signed off on a religious expedition. What did they expect? Also they were praying to the same god as the Christians anyway so the only ones who should be offended are the atheists. But I doubt it is them who are crying foul. i'm just guessing Christians.... or Baptists.... or Catholics... or Jews... maybe the Hindus... |
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I find this highly amusing. It goes to show how basic the mob mentality is.
I give the school credit for willing to show these children different beliefs, and the holy people for being open in allowing the children to join in if they so desired. I remember my World Religions college class fondly, even though it was still the core 5 religions. I find it amusing that the parents of the children are so afraid to allow their children to think that they are screaming bloody murder over this. If they didn't agree with it, they would have been smarter to learn about the religion themselves, and sit down with their kids and discuss it, no rabidly go off the deep-end, screaming bloody murder. Yet they are quick to squawk about other parents of other religions indoctrinating their own children. Are these parents that unsure over their own teachings to their own children, that these children could be "led astray'? Maybe they might want to figure out why?! |
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I would pray for the destruction of Islam.
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I would pray for the destruction of Islam. lol- on the ironic side, but it's funny...
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A Massachusetts middle school field trip to a local mosque has sparked controversy after a video surfaced showing some students participating in a Muslim prayer service during the visit. Several parents complained to the school after the video, shot by a parent during the May 27 trip, was made public Wednesday. It shows a five sixth-grade boys kneeling, bowing their heads, and engaging in a prayer ritual at Islamic Society of Boston Community Center, the Boston Globe reported. Wellesley School Superintendent Bella Wong apologized to parents in a letter Thursday and said that allowing the children to participate in the service was a mistake. "It was not the intent for students to be able to participate in any of the religious practices," Wong told the Boston Globe. "The fact that any students were allowed to do so in this case was an error." The video was released by Americans for Peace and Tolerance, a group that has been critical of the center in the past, after the group received it from a mother who recorded it while chaperoning the trip, the Globe reported. "If a Catholic priest took school kids to a church and said, 'Let's teach them about Catholicism,' and the kids kneeled before altar, took wine and the host, the furor would be visible from outer space," the group's director, Dennis Hale, told the paper. HAHAHAHAHA... Bilal Kaleem, president of the Muslim American Society of Boston, which runs the center, said all the prayer was voluntary. "Certainly in our tours we do not invite kids to take part, but if someone wants to come pray and take part, we shouldn't prevent them," Kaleem told the Globe. "It's more an issue with the school." The trip was part of a social studies course, "Enduring Beliefs in the World Today," and also included trips to a synagogue, a gospel musical performance, and a meeting with Hindu religious leaders, Wong told the Globe. In the future teachers will give "more clear guidance to students to better define what is allowed to fulfill the purpose of observation," she said in the letter to parents. Rules are rules, huh...lol Bilal Kaleem, president of the Muslim American Society of Boston, which runs the center, said all the prayer was voluntary.
So they were not forced to do it. So which is worse? Preventing them to do it or force them to do it. I thought this is USA and everybody has the right to do whatever he wants, accordance to the law. no, the law is no religion at school or school sponsored activities. As i said above. Aren't there guidelines during a field trip? "Don't feed the animals" - for Zoo visit, "don't talk to the convicts" - In the jail visit, don't pray at the churches - during religion expedition. i don't see the big problem with it, but laws are laws...separation of church and state... when i was in school, we started everyday with a prayer and a pledge of allegiance...but that pissed someone off, so it was banned...so if they can't pray to god, they can't pray to allah, buddah, devil, or whoever... if it is a school sponsored activity, it is a nono, regardless if it forced or not. kids have to follow school rules, workers have to follow office policy, soldiers have to abide by military policy. i guess they either thought that kids could get away with it, or just didn't know...or they were scared to piss the muslims off by saying no... yeah, rules are rules, except where parental consent trumps rule. A field trip of this type should be permissable if ALL parents are on board and it is done in the context of historical significance(religion has a historical significance throughout the world). I have taken a reliions of the world course myself as an elective and I see nothing wrong with it. Because of the age of the kids, Id say the adults should be treading lightly on the issue of participation in any ceremony. I would personally not be upset by it, but that doesnt mean that parents who are should be ignored their wishes. |
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Edited by
mightymoe
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Fri 09/17/10 04:41 PM
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i don't see the big problem with it, but laws are laws...separation of church and state... when i was in school, we started everyday with a prayer and a pledge of allegiance...but that pissed someone off, so it was banned...so if they can't pray to god, they can't pray to allah, buddah, devil, or whoever... if it is a school sponsored activity, it is a nono, regardless if it forced or not. kids have to follow school rules, workers have to follow office policy, soldiers have to abide by military policy. i guess they either thought that kids could get away with it, or just didn't know...or they were scared to piss the muslims off by saying no... yeah, rules are rules, except where parental consent trumps rule. A field trip of this type should be permissable if ALL parents are on board and it is done in the context of historical significance(religion has a historical significance throughout the world). I have taken a reliions of the world course myself as an elective and I see nothing wrong with it. Because of the age of the kids, Id say the adults should be treading lightly on the issue of participation in any ceremony. I would personally not be upset by it, but that doesnt mean that parents who are should be ignored their wishes. the laws are put into place, so follow them... |
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