Alien abductions. Psychopaths or really happening?

Anyone seen the "The 4th Kind" movie, based on real video footages?

I saw that movie. I thought it was pretty interesting but a little hard to follow with all the back and forth? It reminded me a lot of that one movie where this woman discovers some kind of buried alien power source or something in the woods behind her house and the more she uncovers of it the crazier she gets and the townspeople get. Like this one lady's dolls attack her and kill her! Freaky stuff!

Not sure what I believe about alien abductions but I am certain that we are not alone out there so....

personally I think any alien visitations to earth are done by the "trailer trash" of their societies...I see the earth as a kind of cheap roadside motel....

You're thinking of The Tommyknocker's miniseries based on Stephen King's book.

that was steven king, the tommyknockers... the book was much better

not me, i think they have been controlling the governments for years...

Logically considering, why would they need so many samples? With all the UFO hysteria and so on and claiming how "thousands" have been abducted and put on a surgery table and examined .. it gets doubtful really, when a technologically superior creatures keep abducting one after another to do "experiments" on them.

Another logical conclusion is, that what's the point really? Let's assume that abductions happen.

If you want to take samples from a population, you would really not need hundred-thousands of labrats..I would say a maximum of 50-100 people would be more than enough.

If they are technologically superior, they know genetic engineering better than humans, they can "clone" , replicate or even genetically modify DNA if that's what they are after.
If that's not what they are after, then I have no idea, but I doubt it would be just to torture and scare the living sh.t out of a bunch of people. That doesn't compute.
Waste of time, waste of resources and pointless.

i just thought mexicans kidnap for ransom...wow this alien crap is getting out of control...secure our borders please

i disagree... look at how many of our own scientist grab animals and bugs and do weird things to them? why do they do that? same reason... they want to learn... if our government caught an alien, do you not think it would wind up on a table somewhere being cut open?

I ain't buying it. The only ones that seem to ever get abducted are a bunch of liquored up rednecks out on a hunting or fishing expedition.

If I was taking samples from an alien planet, I think I'd grab more than just one or two guys. They wouldn't end up returning either, like Moe says, autopsies seem to provide better info than just "anal probing."

No, I'd show up at a large city, zap about 100 with my transporter and then zoom back to the home-world. None of this nickel and dime grab a drunk here, a pothead there stuff.



And what's up with cattle mutilations? Are they just wanting some steaks and ribs or what?

Just an observation.

cattle mutilations is being debunked...just a natural process after death associated with being in the sun for to long...notice they never do an autopsy on them? they all died of natural causes...

Yep! That's it! LOVE Stephen King's books but not most of his movies!

Yeah his movies are hit or miss.

That's perhaps what you would do. But who can analyze and ultimately make sense of the motivations of an unknown alien culture? Who can reflect on their way of thinking, anticipate how any spiritual beliefs (or lack thereof) may affect their behavior and dismiss the evidence that people link to alien abductions in a nice logical scenario?

Who can even fully guess whether alleged anal probes are the extent of the invasive procedures they perform, and speculate about the full capabilities of the supposed technology?

Well, I'd like to think that a society advanced far enough to travel across vast regions of space would also be advanced enough medically to be able to use "tri-corder" type technology. I mean we are advanced enough to use MRIs, Xrays, and CAT scans, not very invasive and tell us a lot. So if we, a backwards planet bound civilization, have advances in technology that tell us about the inner workings of organic bodies, it makes no sense to assume that "visitors" wouldn't also be advanced beyond our capabilities in this area as well.

So once again, it seems very unlikely that these types of invasive techniques would be necessary. It would seem more likely that these abductees got liquored up and buggered by a bear.

Dude, "tricorder type technology" is something entirely construed within the realm of science fiction. Not saying it isn't possible, but I will point out that virtually everyone's image of what an alien race should look like and how they should behave is some model of human sci-fi (which is nothing more than earth's interpretation of outer space, very little of which, at our current level of technology, is put into actual practice). Maybe there is some aspect of anal probing that simply produces more information.

Or, maybe aliens are by nature even more sadistic than human beings with a sense of detachment comparable to human beings who damage the brain stems of monkeys in order to study how it affects their REM states. Maybe it's nothing to do with efficient methods of gaining information, maybe it's entirely to do with cruel torture.

I don't dismiss that many of these stories may indeed be utter fabrications dreamed up by intoxicated rednecks---in that I still cannot bring myself to believe that all of them are---the point is, we cannot possibly have all the information, therefore how can we possibly judge how a superior race "should" behave under specific circumstances? Not unlike the monkeys trying to make sense of why we chop their brain stems.

IMO- usually a miss

The one part of the movie that didn't add up is how they put many of the facts together, and as a small group, made connections that it should have taken a team of scientists years to conjure.

Given the innately mysterious nature of the universe, I find it hard to believe that so few people with such limited resources would nonetheless make such rapid progress.

The real question is, what were they after? Everyone assumes that they are after samples, but only because that is what popular culture conditions us to accept unquestionably. We've all heard stories of alien abductions and how they're "impregnating" humans and whatnot since we were old enough to walk. But without accurate sampling of their culture, it confounds me about how so many can talk themselves into believing that they know what they're after because it sounds "logical."

Who's to even say that alien logic matches up with human logic at any level? To a human, torture might seem like a waste of effort to come so far. Unless---and I admit this is rampant speculation insofar as I admit that any discussion on the state of an alien mind can only be speculated upon---unless torture holds a significant relevance in their culture, perhaps even their spiritual beliefs (again, assuming such advanced creatures have spiritual beliefs, which I don't think is so farfetched).

I am not trailer trash. I just have low standards. Why else would I be living on Earth?





That is what happens when you keep leaving the light on.

Of course alien logic doesn't match up with human logic.
That's why you don't see that many aliens living on Earth.
Most aliens know better than to do so.


I'll be off Earth as soon as a certain "statute of limitations" expires.