I think an ice cream is nice and simple. Plenty of room for convo.

I would feel awkward on a first date sitting there watching her lick an ice cream cone.........

not me bro.

I got no problem with smiling like an idiot with a raging hard on.

I see that a few people took offense at my comments regarding the fixation with alcohol consumption on dating site profiles and how some people can't imagine a date taking place anywhere else but a bar. To those folks I offer this sage piece of wisdom: The truth shocks and offends.

Yeah. I knew everything when I was your age too. Enjoy it. It don't last.

wasnt trying to be too rude or disrepectful homeboy... just laughing at the obvious....

Any post about "My way is right and everyone else is wrong" will always get these reactions.

Besides, unless you are happily married to some chick you took to a coffee bar on your first date then, you are in the same boat as those of us who went out for a couple of mixed drinks and caught blues night at the local acoustic jam bar.

We go with what we know and it pans out or it dont. I would be stunned if choice of beverage actually dictates our relationship success rates. (looks to me like there are just as many designated drivers as drunks around here)

Just because people have disagreed with you doesn't mean they've been offended by you. Everyone is different, obviously. So, everyone is going to have different thoughts about where to go for dates. That's all.

The comments on ice cream just answered a lot of questions in my mind.

I like the hint on the museum though! Excellent!

Tried the park and there are some real negatives - if you go when kids are in school it's too private and if you go when they're out, you have to duck for flying objects (baseballs, footballs, frisbees, etc.

No you weren't, I saw you snickering.

It depends on the person. I've had first dates at various locations. One girl I took on a first date to Powell Books in Portland because she had never been there before, we had a great time.

Uh, word of advise.... it's not actually wise to mislabel your opinion as truth and then offer it up as a sage piece of wisdom. Do what you like but it's actually counter productive to your argument.

My sage wisdom about how the truth shocks and offends was not directed at those who simply see the truth another way. It was meant for a few, who can't seem to disagree agreeably. I still believe that there is truth to the assertion that to some people, a date or a good time is not possible without alcohol.

Sooooooo

Quite, are you happily married to a girl you took to a coffee shop on your first date?

id reather do the museum then the picnic