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Thu 09/02/10 11:20 AM
Edited by Giocamo on Thu 09/02/10 11:22 AM
gulp !!...and...re-gulp !!...from Public Policy Polling...


We'll start rolling out our Ohio poll results tomorrow but there's one finding on the poll that pretty much sums it up: by a 50-42 margin voters there say they'd rather have George W. Bush in the White House right now than Barack Obama.

Independents hold that view by a 44-37 margin and there are more Democrats who would take Bush back (11%) than there are Republicans who think Obama's preferable (3%.)

A couple months ago I thought the Pennsylvanias and Missouris and Ohios of the world were the biggest battlegrounds for 2010 but when you see numbers like this it makes you think it's probably actually the Californias and the Wisconsins and the Washingtons.

There's not much doubt things are getting worse for Democrats...and they were already pretty bad. Somehow the party base needs to get reinvigorated over the next two months or there's going to be a very, very steep price to pay.

willing2's photo
Thu 09/02/10 11:24 AM
But, H has only been in __________________________.

It's Bush's fault H is incontinent.

Gotta' be a Right-winged pole.

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Thu 09/02/10 11:27 AM
Edited by Kings_Knight on Thu 09/02/10 11:31 AM
Right ... and if this poll data leads to unwarranted overconfidence and a too-soon peak before the election, this will be the result ...

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Es brillig war. Die schlichte Toven
Wirrten und wimmelten in Waben;
Und aller-mümsige Burggoven
Die mohmen Räth ausgraben.

Bewahre doch vor Jammerwoch!
Die Zähne knirschen, Krallen kratzen!
Bewahr vor Jubjub-Vogel, vor
Frumiösen Banderschntzchen!

Er griff sein vorpals Schwertchen zu,
Er suchte lang das manchsan Ding;
Dann, stehend unterm Tumtum Baum,
Er an-zu-denken-fing.

Als stand er tief in Andacht auf,
Des Jammerwochen's Augen-feuer
Durch tulgen Wald mit Wiffek kam
Ein burbelnd Ungeheuer!

Eins, Zwei! Eins, Zwei! Und durch und durch
Sein vorpals Schwert zerschniker-schnück,
Da blieb es todt! Er, Kopf in Hand,
Geläumfig zog zurück.

Und schlugst Du ja den Jammerwoch?
Umarme mich, mein Böhmisches Kind!
O Freuden-Tag! O Halloo-Schlag!
Er schortelt froh-gesinnt.

Es brillig war. Die schlichte Toven
Wirrten und wimmelten in Waben;
Und aller-mümsige Burggoven
Die mohmen Räth ausgraben.

Dragoness's photo
Thu 09/02/10 11:34 AM

gulp !!...and...re-gulp !!...from Public Policy Polling...


We'll start rolling out our Ohio poll results tomorrow but there's one finding on the poll that pretty much sums it up: by a 50-42 margin voters there say they'd rather have George W. Bush in the White House right now than Barack Obama.

Independents hold that view by a 44-37 margin and there are more Democrats who would take Bush back (11%) than there are Republicans who think Obama's preferable (3%.)

A couple months ago I thought the Pennsylvanias and Missouris and Ohios of the world were the biggest battlegrounds for 2010 but when you see numbers like this it makes you think it's probably actually the Californias and the Wisconsins and the Washingtons.

There's not much doubt things are getting worse for Democrats...and they were already pretty bad. Somehow the party base needs to get reinvigorated over the next two months or there's going to be a very, very steep price to pay.


Well considering that most of what is happening to Americans right now is Bush and priors fault, it shows some stupidity on the part of pollers now doesn't it?

TonkaTruck3's photo
Thu 09/02/10 12:03 PM
Oh yes, its all Bush's fault!! LOL.....Oblowme has dug his own political grave, now all he's gotta do is get in it!!

Dragoness's photo
Thu 09/02/10 12:05 PM
slaphead

msharmony's photo
Thu 09/02/10 12:37 PM

gulp !!...and...re-gulp !!...from Public Policy Polling...


We'll start rolling out our Ohio poll results tomorrow but there's one finding on the poll that pretty much sums it up: by a 50-42 margin voters there say they'd rather have George W. Bush in the White House right now than Barack Obama.

Independents hold that view by a 44-37 margin and there are more Democrats who would take Bush back (11%) than there are Republicans who think Obama's preferable (3%.)

A couple months ago I thought the Pennsylvanias and Missouris and Ohios of the world were the biggest battlegrounds for 2010 but when you see numbers like this it makes you think it's probably actually the Californias and the Wisconsins and the Washingtons.

There's not much doubt things are getting worse for Democrats...and they were already pretty bad. Somehow the party base needs to get reinvigorated over the next two months or there's going to be a very, very steep price to pay.



we arent even HALFWAY through the term,,,these opinion polls flip at the drop of a dime,, I wouldnt get too secure on either side of the fence,,,

Dragoness's photo
Thu 09/02/10 12:39 PM
I know I won't be voting in the Repub here.

He is anti abortion even in the case of rape and incest. He is anti social security, anti student loan aaaaaannnnnndddddd he wants to stop us from voting in senators and let the senate do it, so no more citizen votes.

He is a lunatic.

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Thu 09/02/10 12:40 PM


gulp !!...and...re-gulp !!...from Public Policy Polling...


We'll start rolling out our Ohio poll results tomorrow but there's one finding on the poll that pretty much sums it up: by a 50-42 margin voters there say they'd rather have George W. Bush in the White House right now than Barack Obama.

Independents hold that view by a 44-37 margin and there are more Democrats who would take Bush back (11%) than there are Republicans who think Obama's preferable (3%.)

A couple months ago I thought the Pennsylvanias and Missouris and Ohios of the world were the biggest battlegrounds for 2010 but when you see numbers like this it makes you think it's probably actually the Californias and the Wisconsins and the Washingtons.

There's not much doubt things are getting worse for Democrats...and they were already pretty bad. Somehow the party base needs to get reinvigorated over the next two months or there's going to be a very, very steep price to pay.


Well considering that most of what is happening to Americans right now is Bush and priors fault, it shows some stupidity on the part of pollers now doesn't it?



actually it just shows how fickle and inconclusive 'polls' are

from http://content.usatoday.com/communities/theoval/post/2010/09/poll-george-w-bush-obama-economy/1

In the July 2009 poll, a third, 32%, said he should shoulder a great deal or moderate amount of the blame. That percentage has risen -- no surprise, given that he's been in office for 20 months. Now almost half, 48%, do. But 51% say he's dealing with problems he inherited, not created, saying he deserves not much or none of the responsibility for economic problems that include high unemployment and a faltering housing market


so a majority still are 'blaming' bush, yet they would rather have him back in office than Barack,,,,,so many assumptions could be taken from THAT tidbit of information but I will refrain from doing so....

Dragoness's photo
Thu 09/02/10 12:42 PM



gulp !!...and...re-gulp !!...from Public Policy Polling...


We'll start rolling out our Ohio poll results tomorrow but there's one finding on the poll that pretty much sums it up: by a 50-42 margin voters there say they'd rather have George W. Bush in the White House right now than Barack Obama.

Independents hold that view by a 44-37 margin and there are more Democrats who would take Bush back (11%) than there are Republicans who think Obama's preferable (3%.)

A couple months ago I thought the Pennsylvanias and Missouris and Ohios of the world were the biggest battlegrounds for 2010 but when you see numbers like this it makes you think it's probably actually the Californias and the Wisconsins and the Washingtons.

There's not much doubt things are getting worse for Democrats...and they were already pretty bad. Somehow the party base needs to get reinvigorated over the next two months or there's going to be a very, very steep price to pay.


Well considering that most of what is happening to Americans right now is Bush and priors fault, it shows some stupidity on the part of pollers now doesn't it?



actually it just shows how fickle and inconclusive 'polls' are

from http://content.usatoday.com/communities/theoval/post/2010/09/poll-george-w-bush-obama-economy/1

In the July 2009 poll, a third, 32%, said he should shoulder a great deal or moderate amount of the blame. That percentage has risen -- no surprise, given that he's been in office for 20 months. Now almost half, 48%, do. But 51% say he's dealing with problems he inherited, not created, saying he deserves not much or none of the responsibility for economic problems that include high unemployment and a faltering housing market


so a majority still are 'blaming' bush, yet they would rather have him back in office than Barack,,,,,so many assumptions could be taken from THAT tidbit of information but I will refrain from doing so....


:wink:

you'll get em riled if you do

InvictusV's photo
Thu 09/02/10 01:44 PM

I know I won't be voting in the Repub here.

He is anti abortion even in the case of rape and incest. He is anti social security, anti student loan aaaaaannnnnndddddd he wants to stop us from voting in senators and let the senate do it, so no more citizen votes.

He is a lunatic.


From the huffington post..http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-thielen/ken-buck-interview_b_691873.html

Conclusion

What do we get with Ken Buck? Number one is that he will be focused on pushing many jobs the federal government does back to the states and local government. And that is something an individual Senator can have some impact on bill by bill. Number two is that he will be focused on reducing our deficit. He's not volunteering to raise any taxes to do so - but no elected official campaigns with a promise to raise taxes, that's our political environment today (which speaks poorly of us voters more than of the candidates).

I also want to speak of what Ken Buck is not. He is not a drown the government in a bathtub proponent - he wants to move programs to the states, not end them (although I'm sure he can name some he would end). While he is personally socially conservative, he does not want to impose his social mores on the country.

I do think he will look for common ground with the Democrats. The filibuster has made the Senate unworkable without compromise. I think Ken will be open to that, except on the issue of deficit spending. But that's a big exception since most legislation is about spending money on something. On the flip side, we Democrats are going to lose a couple of seats in the Senate and so significant compromise will be required and Ken will definitely not be a lapdog to Mitch McConnell.

Finally, Ken Buck consistently tries to give people direct answers to their questions. This means at times, with afterthought, he realizes he said something dumb. We want our politicians to be spontaneous, honest, and authentic. When they are they are also imperfect and inconsistent - because they are human beings. My hope is that campaigning as he does is rewarded not penalized.

He sounds like a real lunatic...

I'm happy you aren't voting for him.. LMMFAO