Topic: New Gallup poll shows Dems gonna get Hammered
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Tue 08/31/10 09:07 AM


Some terms he spoke like, I'll stand with the Muslims and I am one of them kinda' sticks like peanut butter to the roof of the mouth.

He's admitted and shown the Muslim world that he is one of them.

i have no doubt.. he's said it more than once


he has shown that he is an american, who spent time with muslims and respects all religious faiths

many in the sixties were accused of being n lovers for proposing the same idea about minorities, of course, their skin saved them from rhetoric that they must therefore be 'one of them'

msharmony's photo
Tue 08/31/10 09:09 AM







and the conspiracy theories continue,, why dont we just start one thread for truthers and one thread for birthers and let them have at it with all their PROOF,,,,,

a MUSLIM would NOT get baptised at a christian church and miss prayers at the mosque for TWENTY years of their adult lives,,,,,

how do you know that?
why did he conveniently "vacation" during ramadan?
and why did he quite wearing the flag on his lapel?


He actually never wore one until later in the primaries after he got hammered for not wearing it.


wow, so people vacationing during ramadan and not choosing to wear specific accessories are muslim?

who else was besides muslims? he choose not to wear it because it was offending other nations...the only nations offended was muslim nations


I guess my knowledge comes from a certain common sense ,,,,baptists and christians would be infidels certainly, and therefore not to be congregated with(even the christian bible says not to be unevenly yoked with non believers)

they made a fatwa saying they can do as they needed to over here, as long as when they went home they returned to muslim thinking.

would a devout muslim skip going to the mosque for TWENTY YEARS to congregate instead in the religious house of infidels??? think about it

i am not a position to know what he did or didn't do the last 20 years. but he sure dropped his christian church, didn't he...



would a muslim use the phrase 'we christians' about ANYTHING...considering christian refers to those accepting CHRIST as savior not allah
i can pull 20 youtube videos where's he's saying praise be allah in ariabic when he's addressing his brothers



and I could give you fifty instances of where I have responded salaikum asalaam to muslims I know wishing me well,,,its called RESPECT

but in the states thats not as popular as arrogant pride,,,

so i guess the in thing is to not be proud to be an american...
are we supposed to be ashamed the we are an american?
do we have to cower down because we are afraid to offend someone?
i cannot think of one other president that would not proudly wear the american colors, and not be afraid to offend another nation by wearing them. even his wife said when obama was elected this was the 1st time she has ever been proud to be an american.


its a big assumption to make that clothing someone chooses not to wear is a reflection of being ashamed or proud

I dont wear red white and blue either, I am not ashamed of being american or offending anyone. Its a condition of a shallow culture who feels they can make JUDGEMENTS about peoples beliefs and feelings based upon their clothing. I can be pro woman and marry a man. I can be a proud christian and still be respectful to muslims or jews or catholics. One has nothing to do with the other. I can be proud of my body, but still cover up when I go to church.

i was talking about the flag on his lapel... any other president would wear it with pride...even if they didn't want to, they wouldn't make an issue out of it. and just because you or me can get along with other religions, doesn't mean the muslims can or want to.


the flag on his lapel was 'made an issue' by others, all he did was decide not to put it on,,,,

s1owhand's photo
Tue 08/31/10 09:12 AM
Novice politician. Rookie mistakes. You always pay for your education
one way or another.

willing2's photo
Tue 08/31/10 09:21 AM



Some terms he spoke like, I'll stand with the Muslims and I am one of them kinda' sticks like peanut butter to the roof of the mouth.

He's admitted and shown the Muslim world that he is one of them.

i have no doubt.. he's said it more than once


he has shown that he is an american, who spent time with muslims and respects all religious faiths

many in the sixties were accused of being n lovers for proposing the same idea about minorities, of course, their skin saved them from rhetoric that they must therefore be 'one of them'

Manzanas-y-naranjas.

This isn't an angry negro issue.

Husseins name, words and actions have shown he is with the muslims.

msharmony's photo
Tue 08/31/10 09:25 AM
Edited by msharmony on Tue 08/31/10 09:26 AM




Some terms he spoke like, I'll stand with the Muslims and I am one of them kinda' sticks like peanut butter to the roof of the mouth.

He's admitted and shown the Muslim world that he is one of them.

i have no doubt.. he's said it more than once


he has shown that he is an american, who spent time with muslims and respects all religious faiths

many in the sixties were accused of being n lovers for proposing the same idea about minorities, of course, their skin saved them from rhetoric that they must therefore be 'one of them'

Manzanas-y-naranjas.

This isn't an angry negro issue.

Husseins name, words and actions have shown he is with the muslims.


his name? seriously,,,,

wow, just wow,,,,my baby cousins were brought up in some of their minor years in Ghana,, their last names are AWUAH,,,,does that mean they MUST be labeled muslim the rest of their ADULT life even though they have been BAPTISED?

they took their fathers name(like most american children), should they have insisted on changing their name as an adult to appease western bigotry?

such shallow judgments in this day and age ,,,,very scary to me and others with loved ones who might someday be subjects of similar bigoted assumptions,,



his words and actions have shown he is not AGAINST muslims(or any other religion) , but I guess some are followers of Bush doctrine in reverse

if you arent against them, then you're with them....huh?

mightymoe's photo
Tue 08/31/10 09:26 AM








and the conspiracy theories continue,, why dont we just start one thread for truthers and one thread for birthers and let them have at it with all their PROOF,,,,,

a MUSLIM would NOT get baptised at a christian church and miss prayers at the mosque for TWENTY years of their adult lives,,,,,

how do you know that?
why did he conveniently "vacation" during ramadan?
and why did he quite wearing the flag on his lapel?


He actually never wore one until later in the primaries after he got hammered for not wearing it.


wow, so people vacationing during ramadan and not choosing to wear specific accessories are muslim?

who else was besides muslims? he choose not to wear it because it was offending other nations...the only nations offended was muslim nations


I guess my knowledge comes from a certain common sense ,,,,baptists and christians would be infidels certainly, and therefore not to be congregated with(even the christian bible says not to be unevenly yoked with non believers)

they made a fatwa saying they can do as they needed to over here, as long as when they went home they returned to muslim thinking.

would a devout muslim skip going to the mosque for TWENTY YEARS to congregate instead in the religious house of infidels??? think about it

i am not a position to know what he did or didn't do the last 20 years. but he sure dropped his christian church, didn't he...



would a muslim use the phrase 'we christians' about ANYTHING...considering christian refers to those accepting CHRIST as savior not allah
i can pull 20 youtube videos where's he's saying praise be allah in ariabic when he's addressing his brothers



and I could give you fifty instances of where I have responded salaikum asalaam to muslims I know wishing me well,,,its called RESPECT

but in the states thats not as popular as arrogant pride,,,

so i guess the in thing is to not be proud to be an american...
are we supposed to be ashamed the we are an american?
do we have to cower down because we are afraid to offend someone?
i cannot think of one other president that would not proudly wear the american colors, and not be afraid to offend another nation by wearing them. even his wife said when obama was elected this was the 1st time she has ever been proud to be an american.


its a big assumption to make that clothing someone chooses not to wear is a reflection of being ashamed or proud

I dont wear red white and blue either, I am not ashamed of being american or offending anyone. Its a condition of a shallow culture who feels they can make JUDGEMENTS about peoples beliefs and feelings based upon their clothing. I can be pro woman and marry a man. I can be a proud christian and still be respectful to muslims or jews or catholics. One has nothing to do with the other. I can be proud of my body, but still cover up when I go to church.

i was talking about the flag on his lapel... any other president would wear it with pride...even if they didn't want to, they wouldn't make an issue out of it. and just because you or me can get along with other religions, doesn't mean the muslims can or want to.


the flag on his lapel was 'made an issue' by others, all he did was decide not to put it on,,,,
bad descion... what nations did it offend(like it really matters)?

mightymoe's photo
Tue 08/31/10 09:28 AM





Some terms he spoke like, I'll stand with the Muslims and I am one of them kinda' sticks like peanut butter to the roof of the mouth.

He's admitted and shown the Muslim world that he is one of them.

i have no doubt.. he's said it more than once


he has shown that he is an american, who spent time with muslims and respects all religious faiths

many in the sixties were accused of being n lovers for proposing the same idea about minorities, of course, their skin saved them from rhetoric that they must therefore be 'one of them'

Manzanas-y-naranjas.

This isn't an angry negro issue.

Husseins name, words and actions have shown he is with the muslims.


his name? seriously,,,,

wow, just wow,,,,my baby cousins were brought up in some of their minor years in Ghana,, their last names are AWUAH,,,,does that mean they MUST be labeled muslim the rest of their ADULT life even though they have been BAPTISED?

they took their fathers name(like most american children), should they have insisted on changing their name as an adult to appease western bigotry?

such shallow judgments in this day and age ,,,,very scary to me and others with loved ones who might someday be subjects of similar bigoted assumptions,,



his words and actions have shown he is not AGAINST muslims(or any other religion) , but I guess some are followers of Bush doctrine in reverse

if you arent against them, then you're with them....huh?

no, he's just a muslim that lied about it to us... whats that 3 presidents in a row now?...nope 4...22 years of lies...

willing2's photo
Tue 08/31/10 09:36 AM
Edited by willing2 on Tue 08/31/10 09:40 AM


his name? seriously,,,,

wow, just wow,,,,my baby cousins were brought up in some of their minor years in Ghana,, their last names are AWUAH,,,,does that mean they MUST be labeled muslim the rest of their ADULT life even though they have been BAPTISED?

they took their fathers name(like most american children), should they have insisted on changing their name as an adult to appease western bigotry?

such shallow judgments in this day and age ,,,,very scary to me and others with loved ones who might someday be subjects of similar bigoted assumptions,,



his words and actions have shown he is not AGAINST muslims(or any other religion) , but I guess some are followers of Bush doctrine in reverse

if you arent against them, then you're with them....huh?

Name calling doesn't become you.
Real Christian and tolerant.laugh laugh

His full name–as by now you have probably heard–is Barack Hussein Obama, Jr. Hussein is a Muslim name, which comes from the name of Ali’s son–Hussein Ibn Ali. And Obama is named after his late Kenyan father, the late Barack Hussein Obama, Sr., apparently a Muslim.
And while Obama may not identify as a Muslim, that’s not how the Arab and Muslim Streets see it. In Arab culture and under Islamic law, if your father is a Muslim, so are you. And once a Muslim, always a Muslim. You cannot go back. In Islamic eyes, Obama is certainly a Muslim. He may think he’s a Christian, but they do not.

The only way he can get out of it is to publicly proclaim he is not Muslim. Never was and never will be.

Won't happen. It would sign his deth warrent with the Muslims.

msharmony's photo
Tue 08/31/10 09:48 AM
Edited by msharmony on Tue 08/31/10 09:48 AM



his name? seriously,,,,

wow, just wow,,,,my baby cousins were brought up in some of their minor years in Ghana,, their last names are AWUAH,,,,does that mean they MUST be labeled muslim the rest of their ADULT life even though they have been BAPTISED?

they took their fathers name(like most american children), should they have insisted on changing their name as an adult to appease western bigotry?

such shallow judgments in this day and age ,,,,very scary to me and others with loved ones who might someday be subjects of similar bigoted assumptions,,



his words and actions have shown he is not AGAINST muslims(or any other religion) , but I guess some are followers of Bush doctrine in reverse

if you arent against them, then you're with them....huh?

Name calling doesn't become you.
Real Christian and tolerant.laugh laugh

His full name–as by now you have probably heard–is Barack Hussein Obama, Jr. Hussein is a Muslim name, which comes from the name of Ali’s son–Hussein Ibn Ali. And Obama is named after his late Kenyan father, the late Barack Hussein Obama, Sr., apparently a Muslim.
And while Obama may not identify as a Muslim, that’s not how the Arab and Muslim Streets see it. In Arab culture and under Islamic law, if your father is a Muslim, so are you. And once a Muslim, always a Muslim. You cannot go back. In Islamic eyes, Obama is certainly a Muslim. He may think he’s a Christian, but they do not.

The only way he can get out of it is to publicly proclaim he is not Muslim. Never was and never will be.

Won't happen. It would sign his deth warrent with the Muslims.



I called noone names, I judged ACTIONS AND WORDS, in complete standing with what I believe as a christian, but I forgot I am not to decide what I am and am not, I will leave that to strangers who dont know me,,lol

this is america, where religious persecution is supposed to not be tolerated,,,,,critics claim to have personal knowledge of OBamas father, his fathers religious beliefs, and, through association, OBamas

a TRUE american would allow an adult to choose their own faith and not persecute them according to what they ASSUME their parents faith to be,, wouldnt they?,,,shrugs,,,

as far as the rest, In this christians eyes , OBama is a christian, lived the same spiritual life as I did, getting baptised young and taking oaths(mine in court, his in front of the world) on a bible, and saying a pledge of allegiance proclaiming we are a nation under God,,,,


try to avoid assuming that one billion muslims believe OBama is muslim


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Tue 08/31/10 12:42 PM

and the conspiracy theories continue,, why dont we just start one thread for truthers and one thread for birthers and let them have at it with all their PROOF,,,,,

a MUSLIM would NOT get baptised at a christian church and miss prayers at the mosque for TWENTY years of their adult lives,,,,,


They absolutely would being that it is part of a much bigger plan, and with the audacity of these scum shoving this pinnacle of hate down every ones throat at ground zero only shows their brazeness because one of there own happens to be the habib in chief.

msharmony's photo
Tue 08/31/10 12:45 PM


and the conspiracy theories continue,, why dont we just start one thread for truthers and one thread for birthers and let them have at it with all their PROOF,,,,,

a MUSLIM would NOT get baptised at a christian church and miss prayers at the mosque for TWENTY years of their adult lives,,,,,


They absolutely would being that it is part of a much bigger plan, and with the audacity of these scum shoving this pinnacle of hate down every ones throat at ground zero only shows their brazeness because one of there own happens to be the habib in chief.



part of a much bigger plan with not one IOTA of proof


I thought these people were too far in the DARK ages to have that type of patience and cunning,,,,???

InvictusV's photo
Tue 08/31/10 01:04 PM
what the hell does obama being a closet muslim or not have to do with this thread?

If I wanted to discuss this I would have started the "is obama a closet muslim or not" thread..

or .."why does Obama love muslims and hate cats?" thread

Jesus H

bedlum1's photo
Tue 08/31/10 01:06 PM
who cares about a flag pin..really?
i dont even own a flag ,but i am a proud american. (a flag doesnt make one properly proud.)...REAL pride not the FALSE pride (that often ruins us as a nation) displayed by overpretentious ,self rightious, truly uninformed SHEEPLE that fall for the antics of Beck, Palin, Cheney, Limgolaugh, etc, etc.
using poisonouse hateful words and sayings like a virus...things like.."coward in chief", "obummer", "hussain", "muslim" etc. etc, and using photoshopped pics to try to sway others to that noxious way of thinking...
its really quite pathetic.....
and please SHOW ME REAL PROOF obama is musim or that All muslims love the jihad mantality...because i know a few myself that condemn the extremists for it....

msharmony's photo
Tue 08/31/10 01:35 PM

what the hell does obama being a closet muslim or not have to do with this thread?

If I wanted to discuss this I would have started the "is obama a closet muslim or not" thread..

or .."why does Obama love muslims and hate cats?" thread

Jesus H


apologies to you, after PAGES of dialogue its sometimes easy to get lost in responding to posts in the thread instead of returning to the OP and responding,,,

no photo
Tue 08/31/10 01:37 PM
The appropriate phrase for November and beyond is 'Say bye-bye' ...

msharmony's photo
Tue 08/31/10 01:38 PM
or SSDD

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Tue 08/31/10 01:43 PM
Its moments like these I look towards Independents to hopefully start showing a stronger presence to quiet the left and right to bring things bcak to democracy......

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Tue 08/31/10 02:36 PM

Its moments like these I look towards Independents to hopefully start showing a stronger presence to quiet the left and right to bring things bcak to democracy......


Absolutely. Everyone is arguing Democrat vs. Republican when there is no real difference. What has happened over the course of the years? The same result no matter which of them are in charge. Do some research and find out what the candidates really stand for.

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Tue 08/31/10 02:47 PM

or SSDD


No. The 'pubs ain't perfect, but they ain't COMMUNISTS. Time for a li'l housecleaning - and that means gettin' rid of the RINOs along with the Commiecrats, Socialists, and 'Progressives' ...

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Tue 08/31/10 02:52 PM
It will be nice to cut the gnads off the Libs.

One thing I am sure of, I won't be a-votin' for any of 'em State Media tries to sell.