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Ron Paul speaks truth to hate By Brent Budowsky - 08/24/10 10:16 AM ET On this day, let’s give a standing ovation to Rep. Ron Paul (R-Texas) for speaking out against the sunshine patriots who play the politics of hate to play on the fear of terror. If I were an all-out supporter of Ron Paul, I would nominate him for the Nobel Peace Prize. Of course, as Paul has now said, those who spread the lie that it was all Muslims throughout the world who attacked America on that September morning are also those who seem to favor the most wars in the most places, usually so long as other Americans fight them. Ron Paul's criticism of those who exploit the pain of the great terrorist attack to foment the latest form of the politics of hate is a profile in courage and is an example of patriotism of the highest order. Most opponents of the Muslim center in New York are good people with genuine concerns who in many cases make valid points. Reasonable people can support or oppose this particular project in this particular place. However, there are political exploiters, Newt Gingrich being one, a Republican politician in New York who Hillary Clinton obliterated when she ran against him for the Senate being another, who are playing the politics of hate. Anyone who equates all Muslims with al Qaeda is playing the politics of hate using the weapons of bigotry and fear. Ron Paul is right when he attacks the "sunshine patriots" who wrap themselves around the flag of liberty when it is easy but exploit the politics of hate and fear when it is hard. So, on this day, let’s give a standing ovation to Ron Paul, a true patriot, who speaks truth to hate. http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/religion/115535-ron-paul-speaks-truth-to-hate?sms_ss=facebook Ron Paul 2012! Screw you neocon warmongers! |
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Many Islamics (muslims) are not as devout to their faith as many Christians are not.
It is true only a few man acted on the will of the religious leadership but when we look at Islam itself and read their "Bible" the Quar-an then things get scary. It isn't the people, it is the religion and 'Way of Life' that is the enemy. People will change religious affiliations like changing cloths. It is Islam the religion we need to do away with. We need to kill all of their clerics and defile them as we kill them off. Free the people of their oppression and they will embrace a better way of life without having to fear suffering under the hand of Religious fanatics. Unless you lived in a pro Islamic country or have friends who lived there or were there working you are not seeing the dangers Islam poses to everything this country was built on. This is the same thing as saying that all Americans are corrupt greedy and evil just because of our congress and presidential leadership. At least I am not getting beat up for NOT being a Christian here but if I went to say Indonesia I will get my azz kicked for not being Islamic if I am not killed first. No, I don't hate the people living under the cloud of Islam. I hate Islam! I will stop hating them when they lift their Jihad on me for not being Islamic! |
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He'll have my vote!
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In thinking about this post more I have to say that Hate Begets Hate.
I did not hate Islam. I once upon a time DID indeed support their right to exist until I got my hands on a copy of the Qur-an. I tried to take it all figuratively but so much of it spells things right out. Islam HATES all that is not Islam. I cannot support or lend aid or comfort to a ideal that is so steeped in hated like Islam. I have turned my back on Christianity but they don't threaten my life for not being Christian. I even have met real Satanics and depending on which flavor you meet really have some down to earth beliefs like "If you use magic do not speak ill of who is supplying it." They get a lot deeper than that but the fact is that even Satanics acknowledge people in my position where ALL religions are lies. They actually appreciate that thinking. That does not belie that all religion have some truth in them. Jesus gave the church two commandments and yet so many churches get it wrong. I have met a few who do get it right. They walk in Jesus's foot steps (in his beliefs) but pray only to god. I feel most people who are religious are mislead. They are raised and spoon fed their dogma be they Islamic or Christian or Jew. Jews want to kill Islamics becasue of the threat they pose to them they lived with for THOUSANDS of years. Jews sure seem to be peaceful otherwise. I as a KNOWN Gouym among them have attended my share of Passover dinners. Many of my best customers are Jewish. I also have Buddhist customers, I service a tank in a Church, customers who live in crappy neighborhoods, Asians, one of my best friends is Trinidadian, and I also know middle easterners who are Coptic Christians as well as a couple who are Islamic and they know where I stand with Islam. They made it clear only Allah is the judge of any one so we can be friends. The thing is I would like to see Islam change before having to drop a NUKE on them to get it through their heads Hatred for traditional reasons is not good or tolerable. Tradition partially is the real enemy. People need order and pattern to their lives. It would be nice to tolerate Islam but they are playing the same numbers game as the Catholic Church does with their opposition to Birth Control. Islam is trying to out breed us. Then when they have sheer press of numbers they will act. We either take a stand now or kiss our way of life good buy for our children's children! If Islam takes over it will be a new dark ages! |
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Screw you neocon warmongers! HEY ... ! There's that good ol'-fashioned anti-Americanism we all love to see ... ! They never disappoint, do they ... ? |
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BTW, out of all the candidates we will have running in 2012 he seems like the only one with anything real to say about the situation. The thing is where does he stand exactly on all the pork barrel politics and Chicago style graft going on in congress?
I can not understand why the hell we are still in Iraq! I also cannot understand why we have not really committed to finishing Afghanistan. So far it is a half azzed police action like a watered down Korean War! Would he get rid of the TSA once and for all too? if he did that I WOULD vote for him! |
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There is NOTHING anti-American about Ron Paul or what he stands for. He is the only one in our current state of "politics" that stands for the Constitution and the freedom that this country was founded on. Don't take anyone's word for it, do your own research, aside from being spoon-fed the nightly news.
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 except that virtually no one blames "ALL Muslims" for the 9/11 WTC bombing! so yeah Ron jump on that bandwagon! Jump! he probably thinks apple pie tastes good, loves Moms and baseball...
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I can not understand why the hell we are still in Iraq! I also cannot understand why we have not really committed to finishing Afghanistan. So far it is a half azzed police action like a watered down Korean War! THIS is why we're still in Iraq and the 'stan and Germany and Japan and ... (insert name of foreign country here) "The war is not meant to be won, it is meant to be continuous. Hierarchical society is only possible on the basis of poverty and ignorance. This new version is the past and no different past can ever have existed. In principle the war effort is always planned to keep society on the brink of starvation. The war is waged by the ruling group against its own subjects and its object is not the victory over either Eurasia or East Asia, but to keep the very structure of society intact". ~ George Orwell |
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except that virtually no one blames "ALL Muslims" for the 9/11 WTC bombing! so yeah Ron jump on that bandwagon! Jump! he probably thinks apple pie tastes good, loves Moms and baseball... Go do some research and find out what he likes and loves. |
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except that virtually no one blames "ALL Muslims" for the 9/11 WTC bombing! so yeah Ron jump on that bandwagon! Jump! he probably thinks apple pie tastes good, loves Moms and baseball... If this would be true, we wouldn't be having these debates over a church now would we? |
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Hey. Whatever will get the respected, Dr. Paul votes.
I say, go for it Doc! 
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Edited by
s1owhand
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Sun 08/29/10 06:28 PM
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except that virtually no one blames "ALL Muslims" for the 9/11 WTC bombing! so yeah Ron jump on that bandwagon! Jump! he probably thinks apple pie tastes good, loves Moms and baseball... If this would be true, we wouldn't be having these debates over a church now would we? The reason we are not having these debates about a church is because no one from a church hijacked 4 planes and crashed them into several U.S. landmarks killing thousands of innocent people!  If "The church of the apocalyptic office bombers" had carried out these attacks and then some of their members (even though they did not believe in doing the attacks and did not participate in any way) wanted to build a multistory "church of the apocalyptic office bombers" recreation center and chapel adjacent to the site of the massacre...then you can bet we'd be discussing the propriety of that instead. But it's not. So it's different. And The church of the apocalyptic office bombers" has nothing to do with it... Geez Louise....
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Edited by
Atlantis75
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Sun 08/29/10 07:21 PM
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Screw you neocon warmongers! HEY ... ! There's that good ol'-fashioned anti-Americanism we all love to see ... ! They never disappoint, do they ... ? You know who is anti-American? I'm gonna tell you who. The entire neoconservative party. It's been hijacked and used for nothing else but pre-emptive war across the globe for empire building. The party of hate and bigotry. It's also oxymoron to call them conservatives by any way. They are anything but conservatives. Here is a perfect quote for you: The nationalist not only does not disapprove of atrocities committed by his own side, but he has a remarkable capacity for not even hearing about them. --George Orwell |
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Good for Ron Paul
http://www.ronpaul.com/2010-08-20/ron-paul-sunshine-patriots-stop-your-demagogy-about-the-nyc-mosque/ Is the controversy over building a mosque near ground zero a grand distraction or a grand opportunity? Or is it, once again, grandiose demagoguery? It has been said, “Nero fiddled while Rome burned.” Are we not overly preoccupied with this controversy, now being used in various ways by grandstanding politicians? It looks to me like the politicians are “fiddling while the economy burns.” The debate should have provided the conservative defenders of property rights with a perfect example of how the right to own property also protects the 1st Amendment rights of assembly and religion by supporting the building of the mosque. Instead, we hear lip service given to the property rights position while demanding that the need to be “sensitive” requires an all-out assault on the building of a mosque, several blocks from “ground zero.” Just think of what might (not) have happened if the whole issue had been ignored and the national debate stuck with war, peace, and prosperity. There certainly would have been a lot less emotionalism on both sides. The fact that so much attention has been given the mosque debate, raises the question of just why and driven by whom? In my opinion it has come from the neo-conservatives who demand continual war in the Middle East and Central Asia and are compelled to constantly justify it. They never miss a chance to use hatred toward Muslims to rally support for the ill conceived preventative wars. A select quote from soldiers in Afghanistan and Iraq expressing concern over the mosque is pure propaganda and an affront to their bravery and sacrifice. The claim is that we are in the Middle East to protect our liberties is misleading. To continue this charade, millions of Muslims are indicted and we are obligated to rescue them from their religious and political leaders. And, we’re supposed to believe that abusing our liberties here at home and pursuing unconstitutional wars overseas will solve our problems. The nineteen suicide bombers didn’t come from Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan or Iran. Fifteen came from our ally Saudi Arabia, a country that harbors strong American resentment, yet we invade and occupy Iraq where no al Qaeda existed prior to 9/11. Many fellow conservatives say they understand the property rights and 1st Amendment issues and don’t want a legal ban on building the mosque. They just want everybody to be “sensitive” and force, through public pressure, cancellation of the mosque construction. This sentiment seems to confirm that Islam itself is to be made the issue, and radical religious Islamic views were the only reasons for 9/11. If it became known that 9/11 resulted in part from a desire to retaliate against what many Muslims saw as American aggression and occupation, the need to demonize Islam would be difficult if not impossible. There is no doubt that a small portion of radical, angry Islamists do want to kill us but the question remains, what exactly motivates this hatred? If Islam is further discredited by making the building of the mosque the issue, then the false justification for our wars in the Middle East will continue to be acceptable. The justification to ban the mosque is no more rational than banning a soccer field in the same place because all the suicide bombers loved to play soccer. Conservatives are once again, unfortunately, failing to defend private property rights, a policy we claim to cherish. In addition conservatives missed a chance to challenge the hypocrisy of the left which now claims they defend property rights of Muslims, yet rarely if ever, the property rights of American private businesses. Defending the controversial use of property should be no more difficult than defending the 1st Amendment principle of defending controversial speech. But many conservatives and liberals do not want to diminish the hatred for Islam–the driving emotion that keeps us in the wars in the Middle East and Central Asia. It is repeatedly said that 64% of the people, after listening to the political demagogues, don’t want the mosque to be built. What would we do if 75% of the people insist that no more Catholic churches be built in New York City? The point being is that majorities can become oppressors of minority rights as well as individual dictators. Statistics of support is irrelevant when it comes to the purpose of government in a free society—protecting liberty. The outcry over the building of the mosque, near ground zero, implies that Islam alone was responsible for the 9/11 attacks. According to those who are condemning the building of the mosque, the nineteen suicide terrorists on 9/11 spoke for all Muslims. This is like blaming all Christians for the wars of aggression and occupation because some Christians supported the neo-conservatives’ aggressive wars. The House Speaker is now treading on a slippery slope by demanding a Congressional investigation to find out just who is funding the mosque—a bold rejection of property rights, 1st Amendment rights, and the Rule of Law—in order to look tough against Islam. This is all about hate and Islamaphobia. We now have an epidemic of “sunshine patriots” on both the right and the left who are all for freedom, as long as there’s no controversy and nobody is offended. Political demagoguery rules when truth and liberty are ignored. |
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Good for Ron Paul http://www.ronpaul.com/2010-08-20/ron-paul-sunshine-patriots-stop-your-demagogy-about-the-nyc-mosque/ Is the controversy over building a mosque near ground zero a grand distraction or a grand opportunity? Or is it, once again, grandiose demagoguery? It has been said, “Nero fiddled while Rome burned.” Are we not overly preoccupied with this controversy, now being used in various ways by grandstanding politicians? It looks to me like the politicians are “fiddling while the economy burns.” The debate should have provided the conservative defenders of property rights with a perfect example of how the right to own property also protects the 1st Amendment rights of assembly and religion by supporting the building of the mosque. Instead, we hear lip service given to the property rights position while demanding that the need to be “sensitive” requires an all-out assault on the building of a mosque, several blocks from “ground zero.” Just think of what might (not) have happened if the whole issue had been ignored and the national debate stuck with war, peace, and prosperity. There certainly would have been a lot less emotionalism on both sides. The fact that so much attention has been given the mosque debate, raises the question of just why and driven by whom? In my opinion it has come from the neo-conservatives who demand continual war in the Middle East and Central Asia and are compelled to constantly justify it. They never miss a chance to use hatred toward Muslims to rally support for the ill conceived preventative wars. A select quote from soldiers in Afghanistan and Iraq expressing concern over the mosque is pure propaganda and an affront to their bravery and sacrifice. The claim is that we are in the Middle East to protect our liberties is misleading. To continue this charade, millions of Muslims are indicted and we are obligated to rescue them from their religious and political leaders. And, we’re supposed to believe that abusing our liberties here at home and pursuing unconstitutional wars overseas will solve our problems. The nineteen suicide bombers didn’t come from Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan or Iran. Fifteen came from our ally Saudi Arabia, a country that harbors strong American resentment, yet we invade and occupy Iraq where no al Qaeda existed prior to 9/11. Many fellow conservatives say they understand the property rights and 1st Amendment issues and don’t want a legal ban on building the mosque. They just want everybody to be “sensitive” and force, through public pressure, cancellation of the mosque construction. This sentiment seems to confirm that Islam itself is to be made the issue, and radical religious Islamic views were the only reasons for 9/11. If it became known that 9/11 resulted in part from a desire to retaliate against what many Muslims saw as American aggression and occupation, the need to demonize Islam would be difficult if not impossible. There is no doubt that a small portion of radical, angry Islamists do want to kill us but the question remains, what exactly motivates this hatred? If Islam is further discredited by making the building of the mosque the issue, then the false justification for our wars in the Middle East will continue to be acceptable. The justification to ban the mosque is no more rational than banning a soccer field in the same place because all the suicide bombers loved to play soccer. Conservatives are once again, unfortunately, failing to defend private property rights, a policy we claim to cherish. In addition conservatives missed a chance to challenge the hypocrisy of the left which now claims they defend property rights of Muslims, yet rarely if ever, the property rights of American private businesses. Defending the controversial use of property should be no more difficult than defending the 1st Amendment principle of defending controversial speech. But many conservatives and liberals do not want to diminish the hatred for Islam–the driving emotion that keeps us in the wars in the Middle East and Central Asia. It is repeatedly said that 64% of the people, after listening to the political demagogues, don’t want the mosque to be built. What would we do if 75% of the people insist that no more Catholic churches be built in New York City? The point being is that majorities can become oppressors of minority rights as well as individual dictators. Statistics of support is irrelevant when it comes to the purpose of government in a free society—protecting liberty. The outcry over the building of the mosque, near ground zero, implies that Islam alone was responsible for the 9/11 attacks. According to those who are condemning the building of the mosque, the nineteen suicide terrorists on 9/11 spoke for all Muslims. This is like blaming all Christians for the wars of aggression and occupation because some Christians supported the neo-conservatives’ aggressive wars. The House Speaker is now treading on a slippery slope by demanding a Congressional investigation to find out just who is funding the mosque—a bold rejection of property rights, 1st Amendment rights, and the Rule of Law—in order to look tough against Islam. This is all about hate and Islamaphobia. We now have an epidemic of “sunshine patriots” on both the right and the left who are all for freedom, as long as there’s no controversy and nobody is offended. Political demagoguery rules when truth and liberty are ignored. |
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He seems to see things pretty clearly, actually. Perhaps you're the one who can't?
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What does Paul know?
Senility must be settin' in. Sure wouldn't want to see the likes of him overthrowing Hussein. |
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He seems to see things pretty clearly, actually. Perhaps you're the one who can't? i can see perfectly... better than most people |
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What does Paul know? Senility must be settin' in. Sure wouldn't want to see the likes of him overthrowing Hussein. no kidding... the guy is a loser |
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