Topic: ADL 'Stunned' By Zakaria's Decision to Return Prize
RoamingOrator's photo
Sun 08/08/10 08:38 PM
Well hopefully they'll blow it just the same. I saw a program the other day where they were saying that the "Dome on the Rock" isn't actually on the same spot as "Solomon's Temple." They believe now that the original temple was about two miles from there.

Hard to be insulting when you can't even get your own things right.

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Sun 08/08/10 08:49 PM
Edited by Kings_Knight on Sun 08/08/10 09:12 PM

Well hopefully they'll blow it just the same. I saw a program the other day where they were saying that the "Dome on the Rock" isn't actually on the same spot as "Solomon's Temple." They believe now that the original temple was about two miles from there.

Hard to be insulting when you can't even get your own things right.


Do the research ... hard to be insulting when you can't back it up with anything but 'they believe'.

Since you're obviously too lazy to support your claim, I'll give you proof of my statement. YOU can give ME proof of yours - but all you have is an opinion, so it doesn't matter.

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=070830202010.xvz4id1f&show_article=1&image=large

Possible remains of second temple found in Jerusalem: TV

Aug 30 03:20 PM US/Eastern

Remains of the Jewish second temple may have been found during work to lay pipes at the Al-Aqsa mosque compound in east Jerusalem, Israeli television reported Thursday.

Israeli television broadcast footage of a mechanical digger at the site which Israeli archaeologists visited on Thursday. Gaby Barkai, an archaeologist from Bar Ilan University, urged the Israeli government to stop the pipework after the discovery of what he said is "a massive seven metre-long wall."

Television said the pipework carried out by the office of Muslim religious affairs, or Waqf, is about 1.5 metres deep and about 100 metres long.

The compound, which houses both Al-Aqsa Mosque and the Dome of the Rock, is located in east Jerusalem, which Israel occupied in 1967 and then annexed. It is the third holiest site in Islam after Mecca and Medina.

For Jews it as known as the Temple Mount, which they revere as the site of the King Herod's second temple, which was destroyed by the Romans in 70 AD. It is the holiest site in Judaism.

All that remains today is the temple's Western Wall, or Wailing wall.

s1owhand's photo
Mon 08/09/10 04:20 AM

Well hopefully they'll blow it just the same. I saw a program the other day where they were saying that the "Dome on the Rock" isn't actually on the same spot as "Solomon's Temple." They believe now that the original temple was about two miles from there.

Hard to be insulting when you can't even get your own things right.


i saw a show that where they were saying elvis is living with jfk in scottsdale in solomon's temple! they now believe that it was sold on
the black market in casablanca by the fat man.

drinker

laugh

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Mon 08/09/10 05:29 AM
err,wait a minutesurprised ...is that the same fat guy that sold me this bridge slaphead

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Mon 08/09/10 07:53 AM
Edited by Kings_Knight on Mon 08/09/10 07:57 AM
Hmm ...

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Tue 08/10/10 08:42 PM
I respect Zakaria for giving back the award and the ca$h, and I definitely think he did the right thing in standing up for the rights of Americans, including Muslims, to be free to choose where they worship.

However, putting a mosque near WTC is a bad idea. Even if the moderate Islamic community is behind the project, extremists are still going to use it as a "rallying point"-it'll become a symbol of martyrdom to prospective terrorists.

In the end, I don't think building it that close is worth the risk of helping terrorists' recruitment.

s1owhand's photo
Tue 08/10/10 08:58 PM

I respect Zakaria for giving back the award and the ca$h, and I definitely think he did the right thing in standing up for the rights of Americans, including Muslims, to be free to choose where they worship.

However, putting a mosque near WTC is a bad idea. Even if the moderate Islamic community is behind the project, extremists are still going to use it as a "rallying point"-it'll become a symbol of martyrdom to prospective terrorists.

In the end, I don't think building it that close is worth the risk of helping terrorists' recruitment.


You do realize that this is the opinion and position of the ADL and that is why Zakaria gave back his prize?

slaphead

laugh

Dragoness's photo
Tue 08/10/10 09:06 PM
We have to show that we do not hold the unresponsible responsible for something they did not do.


mightymoe's photo
Tue 08/10/10 09:22 PM

We have to show that we do not hold the unresponsible responsible for something they did not do.



yes, we do... i've never owned a slave, but it is my fault that there were slaves... i've never run anyone out of a country, but it seems what happened to the indians was my fault. i've never done anything to muslims, but again, the war is my fault. gays,illegal aliens, just about everything else is my fault for being white. if i feel i'm being blamed for all these things i had nothing to do with, i can blame whoever i want for whatever i want.

Dragoness's photo
Tue 08/10/10 09:25 PM
slaphead

mightymoe's photo
Tue 08/10/10 09:27 PM

slaphead


lol i expected no less

:wink: laugh laugh

Dragoness's photo
Tue 08/10/10 09:33 PM
slaphead whoa

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Tue 08/10/10 09:50 PM


I respect Zakaria for giving back the award and the ca$h, and I definitely think he did the right thing in standing up for the rights of Americans, including Muslims, to be free to choose where they worship.

However, putting a mosque near WTC is a bad idea. Even if the moderate Islamic community is behind the project, extremists are still going to use it as a "rallying point"-it'll become a symbol of martyrdom to prospective terrorists.

In the end, I don't think building it that close is worth the risk of helping terrorists' recruitment.


You do realize that this is the opinion and position of the ADL and that is why Zakaria gave back his prize?

slaphead

laugh


yes, and they should think that. it's a bad idea, no matter how you look at it.

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Wed 08/11/10 09:11 AM
Did you all see that there is already a mosque about four blocks the other side of the WTC? It was there before they even built the towers. So if there is no problem with having an actual mosque four blocks away, why is there a problem with a community center that has a prayer floor?


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Wed 08/11/10 11:57 AM

Did you all see that there is already a mosque about four blocks the other side of the WTC? It was there before they even built the towers. So if there is no problem with having an actual mosque four blocks away, why is there a problem with a community center that has a prayer floor?


Are you really not able to see why this is objectionable?!?!

surprised

The point of course is that the WTC towers went down with Muslim radicals
piloting airplanes full of fuel and hostages yelling - "death to the infidels" and "long live Islam"! In the cheering and celebrating that
followed in Gaza, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Yemen and elsewhere they openly
lauded this as a triumph of Islam over the Great Satan.

It is only natural that the people who live an work in the area may not
prefer the area surrounding the death hole turned into Islamic Central
after that. I'm certain there are plenty of alternative sites to develop
which would not be adjacent to the scene of the crime.

slaphead


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Wed 08/11/10 02:32 PM


No, actually I don't see the problem. I know I might be old fashioned, but I do believe our First Amendment applies to everyone. Everyone has the right to worship their God, even if their beliefs say their isn't one. No one has the right to tell someone they can't worship how they want in this country. It's time Americans face the fact that there is a large Muslim population, and they need places to worship.

Maybe you'd like to see them all rounded up like the Japanese in WWII, and handed poisoned blankets like the Indians in the old west. I like to think this country has moved forward, heading towards that "dream" that Martin Luther King Jr. talked about in the 1960's. I know there are some that would like to see the old "Jim Crow" laws brought back, but I figured they were in a small minority.

There is no need for second class citizenry in this country. At some point someone has to offer an olive branch, show that their society is more enlightened, and show that it is time to move forward. It's been nine years, the time has come. It is time to show the world that America can stand tall and "turn the other cheek." It's time to dig our heels in and show that we can be hit, but not be knocked down. It's time to show that we stick to our ideals and will not bend to the will of a few misguided zealots. It is time to show that we can pay for our freedoms with our lives, if necessary, and still not have them taken from us.

mightymoe's photo
Wed 08/11/10 02:41 PM

Did you all see that there is already a mosque about four blocks the other side of the WTC? It was there before they even built the towers. So if there is no problem with having an actual mosque four blocks away, why is there a problem with a community center that has a prayer floor?




then why do they need this one? the iman thats in charge of it, has a mosque 10 blocks away... seems like alot of mosques.

s1owhand's photo
Wed 08/11/10 06:00 PM



No, actually I don't see the problem. I know I might be old fashioned, but I do believe our First Amendment applies to everyone. Everyone has the right to worship their God, even if their beliefs say their isn't one. No one has the right to tell someone they can't worship how they want in this country. It's time Americans face the fact that there is a large Muslim population, and they need places to worship.

Maybe you'd like to see them all rounded up like the Japanese in WWII, and handed poisoned blankets like the Indians in the old west. I like to think this country has moved forward, heading towards that "dream" that Martin Luther King Jr. talked about in the 1960's. I know there are some that would like to see the old "Jim Crow" laws brought back, but I figured they were in a small minority.

There is no need for second class citizenry in this country. At some point someone has to offer an olive branch, show that their society is more enlightened, and show that it is time to move forward. It's been nine years, the time has come. It is time to show the world that America can stand tall and "turn the other cheek." It's time to dig our heels in and show that we can be hit, but not be knocked down. It's time to show that we stick to our ideals and will not bend to the will of a few misguided zealots. It is time to show that we can pay for our freedoms with our lives, if necessary, and still not have them taken from us.


This has nothing to do with 1st amendment or some kind of roundup or the suspension of any freedom at all. Those who are building the Ground Zero Islamic center have the freedom to be as insensitive as they want - I just think it would good of them and for everyone involved if they put it a more respectful couple of miles distant.

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Dragoness's photo
Wed 08/11/10 06:13 PM
If there is sensitivity to the Ground Zero mosque, it is a personal sensitivity that is a personal issue for someone. It is not a valid national issue.

Muslims did not do 9/11, terrorists did.

Terrorist come in all forms.

mightymoe's photo
Wed 08/11/10 06:17 PM

If there is sensitivity to the Ground Zero mosque, it is a personal sensitivity that is a personal issue for someone. It is not a valid national issue.

Muslims did not do 9/11, terrorists did.

Terrorist come in all forms.


well, these terrorist were muslim, in case you forgot.