Topic: OKAY! Let's get real for a moment, people...
tanyaann's photo
Fri 07/30/10 10:02 AM
Edited by tanyaann on Fri 07/30/10 10:03 AM
Honesty! Yes, we would all like honesty!

But if your partner is really thinking.... 'that 'blankey-blankey' just left the cap of the toothpaste yet again'

Do you really expect your partner to tell you that word for word? Cause it is honestly what they are thinking at the moment.

[there is pretext to this scenario... but I just want to see what people's response is before presenting the pretext]

mbcasey's photo
Fri 07/30/10 10:08 AM
Edited by mbcasey on Fri 07/30/10 10:09 AM


Honesty! Yes, we would all like honesty!

But if your partner is really thinking.... 'that 'blankey-blankey' just left the cap of the toothpaste yet again'

Do you really expect your partner to tell you that word for word? Cause it is honestly what they are thinking at the moment.

[there is pretext to this scenario... but I just want to see what people's response is before presenting the pretext]


Yes, I want him to tell me it bothers him when I leave the cap off. If he does it from the start, then we may avoid the 'blankey-blankey' stage








agree...drinker

misstina2's photo
Fri 07/30/10 10:14 AM
I like for them to let me know what they prefer however letting someone know how you'd like things often falls on deaf ears.

mbcasey's photo
Fri 07/30/10 10:34 AM
Things do bother us like the toothpaste cap scenario.

Communication is the key. Also a frame of mind where you have to accept some things about a partner you don't particularly like. After all we are only human.

However if there is a pattern of disrespect and disregard for your partner's feelings, that is a whole different ballgame.

msmyka's photo
Fri 07/30/10 10:37 AM
Edited by msmyka on Fri 07/30/10 10:39 AM
I most certainly do NOT want to hear what they are thinking all the time. Honesty is for important things not every thought that pops into your head. We (should) have filters for that.

Otherwise we end up with the boy who cried wolf syndrome. If you have something to say about EVERYTHING the other person does they will eventually stop listening even when it is important.

Dan99's photo
Fri 07/30/10 10:40 AM
I always leave the cap off the toothpaste and then swear blind it wasnt me.

msmyka's photo
Fri 07/30/10 10:45 AM
Yeah but some stuff should be kept to yourself, who wants to be nagged to death?

wux's photo
Fri 07/30/10 10:54 AM
Edited by wux on Fri 07/30/10 10:57 AM


Yeah but some stuff should be kept to yourself, who wants to be nagged to death?


nagging is not honesty


Nagging is the most candid and truthful way of expressing the emotion of annoyance at the same time that it motivates the other to act, or to stop acting like a child and thread the roll of toilet paper into its wall socket the other way.

msharmony's photo
Fri 07/30/10 11:01 AM

Honesty! Yes, we would all like honesty!

But if your partner is really thinking.... 'that 'blankey-blankey' just left the cap of the toothpaste yet again'

Do you really expect your partner to tell you that word for word? Cause it is honestly what they are thinking at the moment.

[there is pretext to this scenario... but I just want to see what people's response is before presenting the pretext]




honesty for me is just not lying,, that can be done by telling the truth or keeping silent

if you say it to me, I want it to be the truth
but I dont want or expect you to volunteer every thought you're having

tanyaann's photo
Fri 07/30/10 11:03 AM


Honesty! Yes, we would all like honesty!

But if your partner is really thinking.... 'that 'blankey-blankey' just left the cap of the toothpaste yet again'

Do you really expect your partner to tell you that word for word? Cause it is honestly what they are thinking at the moment.

[there is pretext to this scenario... but I just want to see what people's response is before presenting the pretext]




honesty for me is just not lying,, that can be done by telling the truth or keeping silent

if you say it to me, I want it to be the truth
but I dont want or expect you to volunteer every thought you're having


Can't silence be a lie also?

wux's photo
Fri 07/30/10 11:06 AM

nag·ging   /ˈnægɪŋ/ Show Spelled[nag-ing] Show IPA
–adjective
1. continually faultfinding, complaining, or petulant: a nagging parent.


its not about honesty or dishonesty...stands on its own.


Oyvey... words, words, words.

I am not stepping in that quagmire. Let it suffice to say I don't agree with your interpretation of the language into thoughts, and my comprehension of what meaning is included in what other meanings and your comprehension of the same are mind-buggingly different.

I'll read your reply, of course, but won't proceed. It'd be futile.

msharmony's photo
Fri 07/30/10 11:08 AM



Honesty! Yes, we would all like honesty!

But if your partner is really thinking.... 'that 'blankey-blankey' just left the cap of the toothpaste yet again'

Do you really expect your partner to tell you that word for word? Cause it is honestly what they are thinking at the moment.

[there is pretext to this scenario... but I just want to see what people's response is before presenting the pretext]




honesty for me is just not lying,, that can be done by telling the truth or keeping silent

if you say it to me, I want it to be the truth
but I dont want or expect you to volunteer every thought you're having


Can't silence be a lie also?


not in my opinion..

I dont think they consider taking the fifth as perjury in any court of law,,, and webster doesnt include silence in the definition of lie either

tanyaann's photo
Fri 07/30/10 11:13 AM




Honesty! Yes, we would all like honesty!

But if your partner is really thinking.... 'that 'blankey-blankey' just left the cap of the toothpaste yet again'

Do you really expect your partner to tell you that word for word? Cause it is honestly what they are thinking at the moment.

[there is pretext to this scenario... but I just want to see what people's response is before presenting the pretext]




honesty for me is just not lying,, that can be done by telling the truth or keeping silent

if you say it to me, I want it to be the truth
but I dont want or expect you to volunteer every thought you're having


Can't silence be a lie also?


not in my opinion..

I dont think they consider taking the fifth as perjury in any court of law,,, and webster doesnt include silence in the definition of lie either


So, when you ask your partner who was calling his cell phone at midnight and he rolls over and doesn't answer.... this is not a lie?

msharmony's photo
Fri 07/30/10 11:16 AM





Honesty! Yes, we would all like honesty!

But if your partner is really thinking.... 'that 'blankey-blankey' just left the cap of the toothpaste yet again'

Do you really expect your partner to tell you that word for word? Cause it is honestly what they are thinking at the moment.

[there is pretext to this scenario... but I just want to see what people's response is before presenting the pretext]




honesty for me is just not lying,, that can be done by telling the truth or keeping silent

if you say it to me, I want it to be the truth
but I dont want or expect you to volunteer every thought you're having


Can't silence be a lie also?


not in my opinion..

I dont think they consider taking the fifth as perjury in any court of law,,, and webster doesnt include silence in the definition of lie either


So, when you ask your partner who was calling his cell phone at midnight and he rolls over and doesn't answer.... this is not a lie?



no, in fact it might be considered an answer, if they say nobody or if they say a name other than who it was,, THATS a lie,,

msmyka's photo
Fri 07/30/10 11:57 AM

So, when you ask your partner who was calling his cell phone at midnight and he rolls over and doesn't answer.... this is not a lie?


Not a lie, but disrespectful regardless.

Jess642's photo
Fri 07/30/10 01:16 PM

Honesty! Yes, we would all like honesty!

But if your partner is really thinking.... 'that 'blankey-blankey' just left the cap of the toothpaste yet again'

Do you really expect your partner to tell you that word for word? Cause it is honestly what they are thinking at the moment.

[there is pretext to this scenario... but I just want to see what people's response is before presenting the pretext]


Do I want to hear the inner monologue verbatim from a partner?


Hell NO!...

Do I want him to feel he can be safe and respected when sharing his perspective on what is important to him?

Most definitely.

Jess642's photo
Fri 07/30/10 01:20 PM



Honesty! Yes, we would all like honesty!

But if your partner is really thinking.... 'that 'blankey-blankey' just left the cap of the toothpaste yet again'

Do you really expect your partner to tell you that word for word? Cause it is honestly what they are thinking at the moment.

[there is pretext to this scenario... but I just want to see what people's response is before presenting the pretext]




honesty for me is just not lying,, that can be done by telling the truth or keeping silent

if you say it to me, I want it to be the truth
but I dont want or expect you to volunteer every thought you're having


Can't silence be a lie also?


Absolutely!!!


Omission is the intention to deceive through saying nothing.

The 'gaps' speak louder than the words in my world..