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Topic: Lawmakers Consider Ending Anchor Baby Law
Dragoness's photo
Sat 07/31/10 09:24 AM


The question is whether that would violate the U.S. Constitution. The 14th Amendment states that "All persons, born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States. No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States." It was intended to provide citizenship for freed slaves and served as a final answer to the Dred Scott case, cementing the federal government's control over citizenship.

Read more: http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1996064,00.html#ixzz0vH9UPEUO





...there are amendments though, much like I dont think bearing ARMS applied to the types of weapons we have now, I dont think that clause was meant to make citizens of anyone who could break the immigration laws to get in and have their child,,


Yes it did.

It is written above.

That is the 14th Amendment

this is what is
Constitutional.

willing2's photo
Sat 07/31/10 09:39 AM
I say, amend the constitution to end Anchors.

Here is why.

A low tide sinks all boats indiscriminately.

In the past we could call people who came here immigrants.

Those would be the ones who came here and learned the language provided for themselves and generally wanted to become part of America.

Calling the hispanics next door who snuck in immigrants is an insult to real immigrants of the past.

This recent group does not know where the line for school starts but they certainly know where the welfare office is.

One mans immigrant is another mans mooch.

Do I hear a big Amen, hallelujah!?
drinker


msharmony's photo
Sat 07/31/10 09:42 AM



The question is whether that would violate the U.S. Constitution. The 14th Amendment states that "All persons, born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States. No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States." It was intended to provide citizenship for freed slaves and served as a final answer to the Dred Scott case, cementing the federal government's control over citizenship.

Read more: http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1996064,00.html#ixzz0vH9UPEUO





...there are amendments though, much like I dont think bearing ARMS applied to the types of weapons we have now, I dont think that clause was meant to make citizens of anyone who could break the immigration laws to get in and have their child,,


Yes it did.

It is written above.

That is the 14th Amendment

this is what is
Constitutional.


but it was once 'constitutional' for african americans to be treated as property,,,,, until there was an amendment to the contrary

Dragoness's photo
Sat 07/31/10 10:02 AM
Edited by Dragoness on Sat 07/31/10 10:09 AM




The question is whether that would violate the U.S. Constitution. The 14th Amendment states that "All persons, born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States. No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States." It was intended to provide citizenship for freed slaves and served as a final answer to the Dred Scott case, cementing the federal government's control over citizenship.

Read more: http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1996064,00.html#ixzz0vH9UPEUO





...there are amendments though, much like I dont think bearing ARMS applied to the types of weapons we have now, I dont think that clause was meant to make citizens of anyone who could break the immigration laws to get in and have their child,,


Yes it did.

It is written above.

That is the 14th Amendment

this is what is
Constitutional.


but it was once 'constitutional' for african americans to be treated as property,,,,, until there was an amendment to the contrary


Definitely not the same repressions nor human rights issues between those two, for sure.

If you are born here, you should be a citizen here, I don't care who your parents are.

It is how we all got our citizenship, we were BORN HERE. We have no more rights or less rights than anyone else who is born here.

mightymoe's photo
Sat 07/31/10 11:22 PM





The question is whether that would violate the U.S. Constitution. The 14th Amendment states that "All persons, born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States. No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States." It was intended to provide citizenship for freed slaves and served as a final answer to the Dred Scott case, cementing the federal government's control over citizenship.

Read more: http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1996064,00.html#ixzz0vH9UPEUO





...there are amendments though, much like I dont think bearing ARMS applied to the types of weapons we have now, I dont think that clause was meant to make citizens of anyone who could break the immigration laws to get in and have their child,,


Yes it did.

It is written above.

That is the 14th Amendment

this is what is
Constitutional.


but it was once 'constitutional' for african americans to be treated as property,,,,, until there was an amendment to the contrary


Definitely not the same repressions nor human rights issues between those two, for sure.

If you are born here, you should be a citizen here, I don't care who your parents are.

It is how we all got our citizenship, we were BORN HERE. We have no more rights or less rights than anyone else who is born here.


a gain from an illegal act is still a gain right?

msharmony's photo
Sun 08/01/10 02:42 AM





The question is whether that would violate the U.S. Constitution. The 14th Amendment states that "All persons, born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States. No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States." It was intended to provide citizenship for freed slaves and served as a final answer to the Dred Scott case, cementing the federal government's control over citizenship.

Read more: http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1996064,00.html#ixzz0vH9UPEUO





...there are amendments though, much like I dont think bearing ARMS applied to the types of weapons we have now, I dont think that clause was meant to make citizens of anyone who could break the immigration laws to get in and have their child,,


Yes it did.

It is written above.

That is the 14th Amendment

this is what is
Constitutional.


but it was once 'constitutional' for african americans to be treated as property,,,,, until there was an amendment to the contrary


Definitely not the same repressions nor human rights issues between those two, for sure.

If you are born here, you should be a citizen here, I don't care who your parents are.

It is how we all got our citizenship, we were BORN HERE. We have no more rights or less rights than anyone else who is born here.


I disagree, the repression amended was VERY similar. AFrican americans who worked and LIVED here and were FORCED here but not permitted to be equals, were being protected from such FORCED inequality.

Immigrants who come here now have the CHOICE to come here, and they have the choice to follow the LAWS to do so. I doubt the amendment was ever intended to give people a way to use their children as barters to gain service and rights from the country

willing2's photo
Sun 08/01/10 07:04 AM
Edited by willing2 on Sun 08/01/10 07:08 AM


I disagree, the repression amended was VERY similar. AFrican americans who worked and LIVED here and were FORCED here but not permitted to be equals, were being protected from such FORCED inequality.

Immigrants who come here now have the CHOICE to come here, and they have the choice to follow the LAWS to do so. I doubt the amendment was ever intended to give people a way to use their children as barters to gain service and rights from the country

drinker Now, that's a beautiful argument and example.
So simple and obvious.
About all they'd have to do is add to the amendment is, "This offer void if the person entered the country Illegally.

After they deliver the kid, put 'em in a labor camp until the hospital bill and their ticket home is paid off and then ship 'em back.
Thank you!drinker


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