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Topic: Pre-Arizona Immigration Law, Arpaio Helped Deport 26G Illega
mightymoe's photo
Wed 07/28/10 03:33 PM






Ok, Obama should be impeached, his lawsuit shows that he is FOR people breaking the law...unless I misunderstand the term 'illegal'. Next time I am pulled over, i'm going to tell the police that they are not allowed to determine if my actions are illegal or not...because Obama said so. do we not have any pride anymore as Americans? does it not mean anything? now there is also talk of them building a mosque on the grounds of 911? really people? the squeaky wheel gets the grease...it's time for us to start shouting louder then the opponents of these law(a very small group, they are just VERY loud). 70% of Americans agree with Arizona's law. yet the 30% are winning? why? well it's because only 10% of those 70% are standing up and saying anything! who the cares what people think, it's time for us to do what is RIGHT!+


The Arizona law has many problems, one of which is the fact is it promotes racial profiling, that is a good reason for a law suit.

Noone is promoting illegal activity.

A mosque on the site of 9/11 would be an excellent idea. Showing Americans are not prejudice ******** that believe that all Muslims are terrorists.

sure let's turn America into Pakistan, it's not like they have any experience fighting over land in the middle east, this would create an uprising in NY, it's worked for the middle east, they aren't plagued by contant war or anything. lmao.


Doesn't even make sense.

Showing that Americans are not prejudice ******** has nothing to do with pakistan or fighting over land.slaphead
we are a bunch of prejudice bastards, and i don't want any of there mosques around, antwhere.


No "we" are not a bunch of prejudice bastards and yea "we do want mosques on places that show America is still a melting pot for all of humanity.

you can think however you want, because i sure will.

isaac_dede's photo
Wed 07/28/10 04:51 PM


impeachment is uncalled for truly

the idea is in deciding WHO enforces what laws,,,and who should be MANDATED to do so(as this bill no doubt leaves interpretational room for)

police enforce laws, yes,,,but should they be MANDATED by a bill to enforce immigration laws,, and if immigration laws why not tax laws as well, and if tax laws , why not contract law as well


the bottom line is noone is really opposing enforcing laws, the debate is only about what JURISDICTION should have the authority to do so,,,feds, locals, etc,,,,


why didn't put it to a vote for the people and let us decide? obama and his cronies are playing games and it's pissing me off. i used to like him, not so much anymore.

I didn't mind him either, that is until his HUGE stimulus planned COMPLETELY failed...and by huge let me give you a visual example


1 billion dollars...
on each pallet is 100 million dollars

and here is Obama's stimulus package(or just about, about 23 palet's short of this.

they are DOUBLE stacked. now that SHOULD have made a dent in at least something...but nope.

msharmony's photo
Wed 07/28/10 04:55 PM
a dent in job loss from 800000 a month to under 100000

Lpdon's photo
Wed 07/28/10 06:54 PM
:banana: Sheriff Joe :banana:

isaac_dede's photo
Thu 07/29/10 07:41 AM

a dent in job loss from 800000 a month to under 100000

really?
everyone I know is still getting laid off? and/or collecting unemployment.


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Thu 07/29/10 07:46 AM

a dent in job loss from 800000 a month to under 100000


Oh really ... ? And just WHERE are the 'jobs' coming from for all the people who are currently BEING laid off ... ? They AIN'T DERE NO MORE ... they've gone overseas and (like 'The UN' and Bidet told us already) ... "They ain't comin' back". 'The UN' is a job-destroyer ... the FREE MARKET is a job CREATOR ... reconcile his 'command-and-control' North Korea / Soviet Russia economic model with the FREE MARKET we USED to have ... and you ain't seen nuthin' yet, 'cuz when his TAXES kick in to pay for his courting of the ILLEGAL VOTE FRAUDERS, your paycheck will show that YOU owe THEM ... it'll be a 'negative paycheck' - kinda like how 'The UN' sees our Constitution - as a 'charter of negative freedoms' that only lists what government CAN'T do to us ...

msharmony's photo
Thu 07/29/10 10:41 AM


a dent in job loss from 800000 a month to under 100000

really?
everyone I know is still getting laid off? and/or collecting unemployment.




and most people that someone in the 'ghetto' knows are getting shot,, doesnt mean its happening as the norm around the country

isaac_dede's photo
Thu 07/29/10 08:04 PM



a dent in job loss from 800000 a month to under 100000

really?
everyone I know is still getting laid off? and/or collecting unemployment.




and most people that someone in the 'ghetto' knows are getting shot,, doesnt mean its happening as the norm around the country

NATIONAL unemployment CONTINUES to rise.....so where are these jobs? I'd like specifics about where they are coming from. and because I am ASKING for specifics I will provide some for you, in favor of my argument.

Aetna(heard of them?) just 3 of their offices here in California ALONE, everyone that worked there was called into an emergency meeting and said that they have been 'job eliminated'

That's only one, I can name quite a few more of BIG name corporations that are laying people off.


Can you please name some of these specific organizations that are HIRING right now? lets take California, because it has unemployment in the double digits right now...

I really do hope you can name a few that way maybe the we can let our governor know that it isn't as bad as he thinks lmao.

TonkaTruck3's photo
Thu 07/29/10 08:06 PM
Muslims hate Capitalism, and they are taught to destroy it whenever the oppertunity arises.....Oblowme is simply following orders.

msharmony's photo
Fri 07/30/10 12:55 AM




a dent in job loss from 800000 a month to under 100000

really?
everyone I know is still getting laid off? and/or collecting unemployment.




and most people that someone in the 'ghetto' knows are getting shot,, doesnt mean its happening as the norm around the country

NATIONAL unemployment CONTINUES to rise.....so where are these jobs? I'd like specifics about where they are coming from. and because I am ASKING for specifics I will provide some for you, in favor of my argument.

Aetna(heard of them?) just 3 of their offices here in California ALONE, everyone that worked there was called into an emergency meeting and said that they have been 'job eliminated'

That's only one, I can name quite a few more of BIG name corporations that are laying people off.


Can you please name some of these specific organizations that are HIRING right now? lets take California, because it has unemployment in the double digits right now...

I really do hope you can name a few that way maybe the we can let our governor know that it isn't as bad as he thinks lmao.



kmart
rent a center
walgreens
wyndham
att

isaac_dede's photo
Fri 07/30/10 09:10 AM
"Walmart's Sam's Club shocked more than 11,000 of its workers yesterday morning when it called them in to a meeting and laid them off without warning."
That was in January 2010...they are expected to cut 300 more jobs at various stores around the country.

Can you please not just name a few places that have maybe one or two job openings...

I'm talking about MASS hiring to offest the already 10's of thousands laid off. You keep giving obama's 'speech' and 'promises' as fact. I want to see FACTS that support your claims. I've provided mine.

msharmony's photo
Fri 07/30/10 10:27 AM

"Walmart's Sam's Club shocked more than 11,000 of its workers yesterday morning when it called them in to a meeting and laid them off without warning."
That was in January 2010...they are expected to cut 300 more jobs at various stores around the country.

Can you please not just name a few places that have maybe one or two job openings...

I'm talking about MASS hiring to offest the already 10's of thousands laid off. You keep giving obama's 'speech' and 'promises' as fact. I want to see FACTS that support your claims. I've provided mine.


give the info and the request always changes,,lol

I was referring to THIS week,, not january


here is an exercise in numbers, use aol job search for openings in the past month,,,you can find nearly 100,000

I am searching for work, I use these resources myself,,it is not a piece of pie by any means, but jobs are picking up,,,,

here is another resource for those who are genuinely interested in keeping up with the job outlook and not looking for something to whinge about,,

http://jobs.aol.com/articles/2010/04/07/top-10-companies-hiring/

they update this list weekly and their links sort openings by company and by field,,,,,


good luck to job seekers,,,






mightymoe's photo
Fri 07/30/10 10:39 AM


"Walmart's Sam's Club shocked more than 11,000 of its workers yesterday morning when it called them in to a meeting and laid them off without warning."
That was in January 2010...they are expected to cut 300 more jobs at various stores around the country.

Can you please not just name a few places that have maybe one or two job openings...

I'm talking about MASS hiring to offest the already 10's of thousands laid off. You keep giving obama's 'speech' and 'promises' as fact. I want to see FACTS that support your claims. I've provided mine.


give the info and the request always changes,,lol

I was referring to THIS week,, not january


here is an exercise in numbers, use aol job search for openings in the past month,,,you can find nearly 100,000

I am searching for work, I use these resources myself,,it is not a piece of pie by any means, but jobs are picking up,,,,

here is another resource for those who are genuinely interested in keeping up with the job outlook and not looking for something to whinge about,,

http://jobs.aol.com/articles/2010/04/07/top-10-companies-hiring/

they update this list weekly and their links sort openings by company and by field,,,,,


good luck to job seekers,,,








i hope this will help, but most all the cell phone companies are hiring right now.. but the catch is, you have to speak spanish...
i see a lot of car dealerships hiring right now too.

Lpdon's photo
Fri 07/30/10 12:15 PM



"Walmart's Sam's Club shocked more than 11,000 of its workers yesterday morning when it called them in to a meeting and laid them off without warning."
That was in January 2010...they are expected to cut 300 more jobs at various stores around the country.

Can you please not just name a few places that have maybe one or two job openings...

I'm talking about MASS hiring to offest the already 10's of thousands laid off. You keep giving obama's 'speech' and 'promises' as fact. I want to see FACTS that support your claims. I've provided mine.


give the info and the request always changes,,lol

I was referring to THIS week,, not january


here is an exercise in numbers, use aol job search for openings in the past month,,,you can find nearly 100,000

I am searching for work, I use these resources myself,,it is not a piece of pie by any means, but jobs are picking up,,,,

here is another resource for those who are genuinely interested in keeping up with the job outlook and not looking for something to whinge about,,

http://jobs.aol.com/articles/2010/04/07/top-10-companies-hiring/

they update this list weekly and their links sort openings by company and by field,,,,,


good luck to job seekers,,,








i hope this will help, but most all the cell phone companies are hiring right now.. but the catch is, you have to speak spanish...
i see a lot of car dealerships hiring right now too.


Yea but with a car dealership they are on commission and they arn't selling many cars right now.

isaac_dede's photo
Fri 07/30/10 02:29 PM


"Walmart's Sam's Club shocked more than 11,000 of its workers yesterday morning when it called them in to a meeting and laid them off without warning."
That was in January 2010...they are expected to cut 300 more jobs at various stores around the country.

Can you please not just name a few places that have maybe one or two job openings...

I'm talking about MASS hiring to offest the already 10's of thousands laid off. You keep giving obama's 'speech' and 'promises' as fact. I want to see FACTS that support your claims. I've provided mine.


give the info and the request always changes,,lol

I was referring to THIS week,, not january


here is an exercise in numbers, use aol job search for openings in the past month,,,you can find nearly 100,000

I am searching for work, I use these resources myself,,it is not a piece of pie by any means, but jobs are picking up,,,,

here is another resource for those who are genuinely interested in keeping up with the job outlook and not looking for something to whinge about,,

http://jobs.aol.com/articles/2010/04/07/top-10-companies-hiring/

they update this list weekly and their links sort openings by company and by field,,,,,


good luck to job seekers,,,







so you are looking for work too? for how long? how's that going? obama LMAO!

you yourself are a contradiction.

isaac_dede's photo
Fri 07/30/10 02:43 PM
ok, here is something more recent

"Obama Defends Education Policies Amid Mass Education Layoffs
By: David Dayen Thursday July 29, 2010 10:03 am
Tweet12 Share7



After criticism increased over the President’s education policies, he took to the National Urban League to defend them today. However, he ignored the elephant in the room: that holding back education funding from the stimulus to pursue an untested “reform” agenda is costing tens of thousands of teachers their jobs and a generation of students their futures.

President Obama particularly defended the “Race to the Top” program today to the National Urban League, one of several civil-rights groups who recently criticized it in a paper:

“I am 110 percent behind our teachers,” he said. “All I’m asking in return — as a president, as a parent, and as a citizen — is some measure of accountability.” [...]

The Urban League and six other civil rights groups released a report this week criticizing the program and saying the quality of education offered to minority students reflects a “state of emergency” in the system.

Even as he acknowledged these concerns Thursday, Obama challenged teachers, parents, and student alike to embrace “increased accountability,” and likened the program to his administration’s efforts to reform healthcare and Wall Street.

To many, that was probably the wrong comparison to make.

Here’s the point. Arne Duncan was handed $4.3 billion dollars for Race to the Top. He’s spent $600 million of it so far, on two states – Delaware and Tennessee. Nineteen other states were announced as finalists for the second round of Race to the Top this week, with over $3 billion of funding earmarked. But none of that money has gone out, over two school year cycles, and presumably there will be another winnowing process that takes months before schools actually receive the money.

In the meantime, hundreds of thousands of jobs will be lost because cities and municipalities have seen their revenues plummet. Many of those layoffs will come in the education sector, and all the while Arne Duncan is sitting on $4 billion dollars. I don’t think you have to be a rocket scientist about education policy to know that losing teachers and increasing class sizes hurts students. Duncan and Obama had a chance to mitigate that with the swift deployment of already-appropriated stimulus funding. But they chose to drag it out, and entice more states into their untested reform theories, which the Urban League and other civil rights groups find unhelpful. You don’t even have to wade into that debate to know that hoarding education money while teachers get the ax makes no sense whatsoever. The President and his Education Secretary are taking advantage of an emergency at the expense of children.

This is a dumb statement:

“Competition leveraged change at the state level,” he said, adding “the states that didn’t win have strengthened their applications for the second round … and even those states that haven’t gotten a grant, their students have benefited from the reforms.”

No they haven’t. They’ve lost valued teachers, and they’ve seen their class sizes balloon. Their schools don’t have the money to educate them. And when House Democrats tried to provide $10 billion to supplement school district budgets – a comedown from $23 billion – the White House threatened to veto the bill it was attached to, because it sliced a sliver off of Race to the Top. As a result, no education money got through, and students suffered. I don’t think the veto threat necessarily killed the edujobs funding, but it certainly didn’t help. What’s more, it showed this Administration’s priorities.

Nobody’s comfortable with the status quo in education policy. But people are really uncomfortable with losing hundreds of thousands of education jobs while the President ignores that crisis"

More job loss, more people out of work. More people collecting unemployment, and at the same time hurting our education system(which globally we are almost completely at the bottom, I think Mexico is the only country we are beating right now)

So let's just continue all of his programs, which obviously are working so far. He is going on the VIEW while over 9 billion dollars are UNACCOUNTED for over-seas. I wish he quit trying to be a pop celebrity and start focusing on being a PRESIDENT!. He is still 'campaigning' in my eyes because his numbers are dropping.

If it was a CEO that had 9 billion dollars DISAPEAR in his company don't you think he'd be looking into the matter himself instead of going on an interview with David Letterman or another useless show...like the view. Diddn't we elect him to be President? to do a presidential job? I didn't realize we voted for the next 'pop star' if he'd do the job for which we elected him for, I wouldn't have a problem with him. He spent more in 9 months then bush did in 8 years. There is a problem.


FearandLoathing's photo
Fri 07/30/10 04:05 PM
Politics - Do something so that a majority group likes you.

msharmony's photo
Fri 07/30/10 06:36 PM



"Walmart's Sam's Club shocked more than 11,000 of its workers yesterday morning when it called them in to a meeting and laid them off without warning."
That was in January 2010...they are expected to cut 300 more jobs at various stores around the country.

Can you please not just name a few places that have maybe one or two job openings...

I'm talking about MASS hiring to offest the already 10's of thousands laid off. You keep giving obama's 'speech' and 'promises' as fact. I want to see FACTS that support your claims. I've provided mine.


give the info and the request always changes,,lol

I was referring to THIS week,, not january


here is an exercise in numbers, use aol job search for openings in the past month,,,you can find nearly 100,000

I am searching for work, I use these resources myself,,it is not a piece of pie by any means, but jobs are picking up,,,,

here is another resource for those who are genuinely interested in keeping up with the job outlook and not looking for something to whinge about,,

http://jobs.aol.com/articles/2010/04/07/top-10-companies-hiring/

they update this list weekly and their links sort openings by company and by field,,,,,


good luck to job seekers,,,







so you are looking for work too? for how long? how's that going? obama LMAO!

you yourself are a contradiction.



since May of 2009, when in fact BUSH's budget would have still been in effect

nothing contradictory there,,,

msharmony's photo
Fri 07/30/10 06:40 PM

ok, here is something more recent

"Obama Defends Education Policies Amid Mass Education Layoffs
By: David Dayen Thursday July 29, 2010 10:03 am
Tweet12 Share7



After criticism increased over the President’s education policies, he took to the National Urban League to defend them today. However, he ignored the elephant in the room: that holding back education funding from the stimulus to pursue an untested “reform” agenda is costing tens of thousands of teachers their jobs and a generation of students their futures.

President Obama particularly defended the “Race to the Top” program today to the National Urban League, one of several civil-rights groups who recently criticized it in a paper:

“I am 110 percent behind our teachers,” he said. “All I’m asking in return — as a president, as a parent, and as a citizen — is some measure of accountability.” [...]

The Urban League and six other civil rights groups released a report this week criticizing the program and saying the quality of education offered to minority students reflects a “state of emergency” in the system.

Even as he acknowledged these concerns Thursday, Obama challenged teachers, parents, and student alike to embrace “increased accountability,” and likened the program to his administration’s efforts to reform healthcare and Wall Street.

To many, that was probably the wrong comparison to make.

Here’s the point. Arne Duncan was handed $4.3 billion dollars for Race to the Top. He’s spent $600 million of it so far, on two states – Delaware and Tennessee. Nineteen other states were announced as finalists for the second round of Race to the Top this week, with over $3 billion of funding earmarked. But none of that money has gone out, over two school year cycles, and presumably there will be another winnowing process that takes months before schools actually receive the money.

In the meantime, hundreds of thousands of jobs will be lost because cities and municipalities have seen their revenues plummet. Many of those layoffs will come in the education sector, and all the while Arne Duncan is sitting on $4 billion dollars. I don’t think you have to be a rocket scientist about education policy to know that losing teachers and increasing class sizes hurts students. Duncan and Obama had a chance to mitigate that with the swift deployment of already-appropriated stimulus funding. But they chose to drag it out, and entice more states into their untested reform theories, which the Urban League and other civil rights groups find unhelpful. You don’t even have to wade into that debate to know that hoarding education money while teachers get the ax makes no sense whatsoever. The President and his Education Secretary are taking advantage of an emergency at the expense of children.

This is a dumb statement:

“Competition leveraged change at the state level,” he said, adding “the states that didn’t win have strengthened their applications for the second round … and even those states that haven’t gotten a grant, their students have benefited from the reforms.”

No they haven’t. They’ve lost valued teachers, and they’ve seen their class sizes balloon. Their schools don’t have the money to educate them. And when House Democrats tried to provide $10 billion to supplement school district budgets – a comedown from $23 billion – the White House threatened to veto the bill it was attached to, because it sliced a sliver off of Race to the Top. As a result, no education money got through, and students suffered. I don’t think the veto threat necessarily killed the edujobs funding, but it certainly didn’t help. What’s more, it showed this Administration’s priorities.

Nobody’s comfortable with the status quo in education policy. But people are really uncomfortable with losing hundreds of thousands of education jobs while the President ignores that crisis"

More job loss, more people out of work. More people collecting unemployment, and at the same time hurting our education system(which globally we are almost completely at the bottom, I think Mexico is the only country we are beating right now)

So let's just continue all of his programs, which obviously are working so far. He is going on the VIEW while over 9 billion dollars are UNACCOUNTED for over-seas. I wish he quit trying to be a pop celebrity and start focusing on being a PRESIDENT!. He is still 'campaigning' in my eyes because his numbers are dropping.

If it was a CEO that had 9 billion dollars DISAPEAR in his company don't you think he'd be looking into the matter himself instead of going on an interview with David Letterman or another useless show...like the view. Diddn't we elect him to be President? to do a presidential job? I didn't realize we voted for the next 'pop star' if he'd do the job for which we elected him for, I wouldn't have a problem with him. He spent more in 9 months then bush did in 8 years. There is a problem.





I cant complain. I live in Vegas and am an aspiring teacher. I am also a mother, and I can attest to the lack of accountability the schools and the teachers have in TEACHING these kids. Sometimes you have to hit bottom to climb back up and we are nearly bottoming out already. I support this measure to make sure students are LEARNING And schools arent just being funded and granted and teachers getting paid. IT should be about the kids,,,,

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