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At 100k a year for a part time job maybe more people should run for city council.. At least in this town..Miles
Calif city seeks dismissal of high-paid officials Buzz up!23 votes Share retweet EmailPrint.. AP – People chat as they wait in line for food outside Bell Food Station in Bell, Calif., Thursday, July 22, … .By JOHN ROGERS, Associated Press Writer John Rogers, Associated Press Writer – 1 hr 1 min ago BELL, Calif. – The City Council in this small, blue-collar suburb of Los Angeles intends to ask three administrators whose salaries total more than $1.6 million to resign Thursday or face possible firing. The officials include Chief Administrative Officer Robert Rizzo, who earns $787,637 a year — nearly twice the pay of President Barack Obama — for overseeing one of the poorest towns in Los Angeles County. The others are Assistant City Manager Angela Spaccia, who makes $376,288 a year, and Police Chief Randy Adams, whose annual salary of $457,000 is 50 percent more than that of Los Angeles Police Chief Charlie Beck. Councilman Luis Artiga said the panel planned to request the resignations during a closed-door, afternoon meeting that was called to consider dismissing the officials. A public hearing is scheduled for Monday. All three officials under question have contracts that protect them from being fired without cause. If they refuse to quit, the city might have to shell out hundreds of thousands of dollars to buy out their contracts. Revelations about the pay in Bell has sparked anger in the city of fewer than 40,000 residents. Census figures from 2008 show 17 percent of the population lives in poverty. Enraged residents have staged protests demanding the firings and started a recall campaign against some council members. "Woo, the salaries. Wow. What can I say? I think that's unbelievable," Christina Caldera, a 20-year resident of the city, said as she stood in line at a food bank. Caldera, who is struggling after recently losing her job as a drug and alcohol counselor, said she generally was satisfied with the way the city was being run but felt high-paid officials should take a pay cut. "What are they doing with all that money?" she asked. "Maybe they could put it into more jobs for other people." Attempts to leave messages with city representatives seeking comment from Rizzo and Spaccia failed because their voicemails were full. A message left for Adams was not immediately returned. The council members are paid well themselves — four of the five members each make about $100,000 a year for the part-time work. The county district attorney's office is investigating to determine if the council's high salaries violate any state laws. The City Council also intends to review city salaries, including those of its own members, according to Artiga and Mayor Oscar Hernandez. "We are going to analyze all the city payrolls and possibly will revise all the salaries of the city," Artiga said. However, both men said they considered the City Council pay to be justified. "We work a lot. I work with my community every day," the mayor said. Council members are on call around the clock, and it is not uncommon for them to take calls in the middle of the night from people reporting problems with city services, Artiga said. The Los Angeles Times reported the salaries last week, prompting a large protest Monday at City Hall in which residents shouted and demanded that Rizzo be fired. City officials at first defended the salaries. They said Rizzo joined a nearly bankrupt city 17 years ago and restored its finances. Hernandez told the Times that Bell has cleaner streets, lovely parks and better lighting. If Rizzo leaves, he still would be entitled to a state pension of more than $650,000 a year for life, according to calculations made by the Times. That would make Rizzo, 55, the highest-paid retiree in the state pension system. Adams could get more than $411,000. Spaccia, 51, could be eligible for as much as $250,000 a year when she reaches 55, though the figure is less precise than for the other two officials, the Times said. |
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Well I think all city salary's should be put for a vote.
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greedy bast$#% like that are whats ruining our country. even if the whole town is pissed off, they still probably won't lower thier salary.
no wonder why cali and other states are going bankrupt. the govenor of texas, perry, house(govenors mansion) burned down about 3 years ago, and the state of texas has been spotting a 8,000 dollar a month tab for his rent house. |
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How come the only thing I can think of as a reaction to that is a tagline from a Pace salsa commercial?
"Get a rope." (Well, it'd be cheaper than buying up the contracts) |
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just playing devils advocate, not stating that I Agree or disagree with the salaries
but sometimes people are paid based upon commissions(salespeople), some are paid based upon what they personally bring into a company(athletes, actors, dancers), some are paid based upon how many others they oversee or are responsible for(managers, ceo's etc,,,) and then there are those who make a certain amount of PAY but receive quite a few expensive perks that would otherwise cost quite a bit,,, I dont know whether the salaries reflect the level of responsibility or time or work these people put in,,, but I would look into what they actually do before drawing the conclusion.. |
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just playing devils advocate, not stating that I Agree or disagree with the salaries but sometimes people are paid based upon commissions(salespeople), some are paid based upon what they personally bring into a company(athletes, actors, dancers), some are paid based upon how many others they oversee or are responsible for(managers, ceo's etc,,,) and then there are those who make a certain amount of PAY but receive quite a few expensive perks that would otherwise cost quite a bit,,, I dont know whether the salaries reflect the level of responsibility or time or work these people put in,,, but I would look into what they actually do before drawing the conclusion.. I believe the reprter answered several of those questions if not all. The officials include Chief Administrative Officer Robert Rizzo, who earns $787,637 a year — nearly twice the pay of President Barack Obama — for overseeing one of the poorest towns in Los Angeles County The others are Assistant City Manager Angela Spaccia, who makes $376,288 a year, and Police Chief Randy Adams, whose annual salary of $457,000 is 50 percent more than that of Los Angeles Police Chief Charlie Beck then the retirement they get..Hard to believe when paid retirement has all but been done away with for the average working person |
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just playing devils advocate, not stating that I Agree or disagree with the salaries but sometimes people are paid based upon commissions(salespeople), some are paid based upon what they personally bring into a company(athletes, actors, dancers), some are paid based upon how many others they oversee or are responsible for(managers, ceo's etc,,,) and then there are those who make a certain amount of PAY but receive quite a few expensive perks that would otherwise cost quite a bit,,, I dont know whether the salaries reflect the level of responsibility or time or work these people put in,,, but I would look into what they actually do before drawing the conclusion.. I believe the reprter answered several of those questions if not all. The officials include Chief Administrative Officer Robert Rizzo, who earns $787,637 a year — nearly twice the pay of President Barack Obama — for overseeing one of the poorest towns in Los Angeles County The others are Assistant City Manager Angela Spaccia, who makes $376,288 a year, and Police Chief Randy Adams, whose annual salary of $457,000 is 50 percent more than that of Los Angeles Police Chief Charlie Beck then the retirement they get..Hard to believe when paid retirement has all but been done away with for the average working person I meant the actual job RESPONSIBIILITES,, like, as a mom, I take care of the house,,,but for me that means cooking, cleaning, doing the nurturing and educating, paying the utilites , running errands,,, others may have different responsibilities when they 'take care of the house',.. some with a much longer list and some a much shorter one |
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I meant the actual job RESPONSIBIILITES,, like, as a mom, I take care of the house,,,but for me that means cooking, cleaning, doing the nurturing and educating, paying the utilites , running errands,,, others may have different responsibilities when they 'take care of the house',.. some with a much longer list and some a much shorter one So how can Rizzo have more responsibilities than Obama? |
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I meant the actual job RESPONSIBIILITES,, like, as a mom, I take care of the house,,,but for me that means cooking, cleaning, doing the nurturing and educating, paying the utilites , running errands,,, others may have different responsibilities when they 'take care of the house',.. some with a much longer list and some a much shorter one So how can Rizzo have more responsibilities than Obama? well lets see,,,I found an example of duties for a CAO here http://code.municipalworld.com/woodstock/88.pdf it lists 21 seperate paragraphs worth of duties and responsibilities in contrast to the duties of a US President which I found here http://www2.scholastic.com/browse/article.jsp?id=4684 and had a much shorter list,,,but who knows what people ACTUALLY do huh? I have worked in offices for twenty years and I know people whose actual workload was quite a bit simpler than their official duties and those whose workload was quite a bit more complex |
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just playing devils advocate, not stating that I Agree or disagree with the salaries but sometimes people are paid based upon commissions(salespeople), some are paid based upon what they personally bring into a company(athletes, actors, dancers), some are paid based upon how many others they oversee or are responsible for(managers, ceo's etc,,,) and then there are those who make a certain amount of PAY but receive quite a few expensive perks that would otherwise cost quite a bit,,, I dont know whether the salaries reflect the level of responsibility or time or work these people put in,,, but I would look into what they actually do before drawing the conclusion.. I believe the reprter answered several of those questions if not all. The officials include Chief Administrative Officer Robert Rizzo, who earns $787,637 a year — nearly twice the pay of President Barack Obama — for overseeing one of the poorest towns in Los Angeles County The others are Assistant City Manager Angela Spaccia, who makes $376,288 a year, and Police Chief Randy Adams, whose annual salary of $457,000 is 50 percent more than that of Los Angeles Police Chief Charlie Beck then the retirement they get..Hard to believe when paid retirement has all but been done away with for the average working person I meant the actual job RESPONSIBIILITES,, like, as a mom, I take care of the house,,,but for me that means cooking, cleaning, doing the nurturing and educating, paying the utilites , running errands,,, others may have different responsibilities when they 'take care of the house',.. some with a much longer list and some a much shorter one |
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Milesoftheusa
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Thu 07/22/10 11:55 PM
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I meant the actual job RESPONSIBIILITES,, like, as a mom, I take care of the house,,,but for me that means cooking, cleaning, doing the nurturing and educating, paying the utilites , running errands,,, others may have different responsibilities when they 'take care of the house',.. some with a much longer list and some a much shorter one So how can Rizzo have more responsibilities than Obama? well lets see,,,I found an example of duties for a CAO here http://code.municipalworld.com/woodstock/88.pdf it lists 21 seperate paragraphs worth of duties and responsibilities in contrast to the duties of a US President which I found here http://www2.scholastic.com/browse/article.jsp?id=4684 and had a much shorter list,,,but who knows what people ACTUALLY do huh? I have worked in offices for twenty years and I know people whose actual workload was quite a bit simpler than their official duties and those whose workload was quite a bit more complex Job duties are llike a needle in a haystack. I went to school for electonics.. U should see what the responcibilites that are listed for a substation/systems tech for a power company is. They will list wiping your butt if it will keep them out of a lawsuit.. |
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I meant the actual job RESPONSIBIILITES,, like, as a mom, I take care of the house,,,but for me that means cooking, cleaning, doing the nurturing and educating, paying the utilites , running errands,,, others may have different responsibilities when they 'take care of the house',.. some with a much longer list and some a much shorter one So how can Rizzo have more responsibilities than Obama? well lets see,,,I found an example of duties for a CAO here http://code.municipalworld.com/woodstock/88.pdf it lists 21 seperate paragraphs worth of duties and responsibilities in contrast to the duties of a US President which I found here http://www2.scholastic.com/browse/article.jsp?id=4684 and had a much shorter list,,,but who knows what people ACTUALLY do huh? I have worked in offices for twenty years and I know people whose actual workload was quite a bit simpler than their official duties and those whose workload was quite a bit more complex Job duties are llike a needle in a haystack. I went to school for electonics.. U should see what the responcibilites that are listed for a substation/systems tech for a power company is. They will list wiping your butt if it will keep them out of a lawsuit.. amen, not to mention that so many job descriptions(when they are listed) now include 'other responsibilities as needed' or some such disclaimer,,, |
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