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Topic: Opinion: We're Becoming a Nation of Haters
Ruth34611's photo
Mon 07/12/10 06:39 PM



feel free to, i would like to hear more... i always hear that money is the root of all evil, but i tend to think it is the evil.



No....it's not money that is the root of all evil...it is the LOVE of money that is the root of all evil.

mightymoe's photo
Mon 07/12/10 06:46 PM




feel free to, i would like to hear more... i always hear that money is the root of all evil, but i tend to think it is the evil.



No....it's not money that is the root of all evil...it is the LOVE of money that is the root of all evil.


yes, it could be said that way too...but i think it's the money, it spawns just about everything we do, why we get up in the morning, what we are going to do all day, if we can do the things we want to do.... for some people, it's not love, it's a necessity. that initself may be there's more anger and hate today in the world.

Ruth34611's photo
Mon 07/12/10 06:49 PM





feel free to, i would like to hear more... i always hear that money is the root of all evil, but i tend to think it is the evil.



No....it's not money that is the root of all evil...it is the LOVE of money that is the root of all evil.


yes, it could be said that way too...but i think it's the money, it spawns just about everything we do, why we get up in the morning, what we are going to do all day, if we can do the things we want to do.... for some people, it's not love, it's a necessity. that initself may be there's more anger and hate today in the world.


Money is an inanimate object. It is neither good nor evil. It is the importance one places on it that is good or evil. It's how one uses money that is good or evil.

mightymoe's photo
Mon 07/12/10 06:56 PM






feel free to, i would like to hear more... i always hear that money is the root of all evil, but i tend to think it is the evil.



No....it's not money that is the root of all evil...it is the LOVE of money that is the root of all evil.


yes, it could be said that way too...but i think it's the money, it spawns just about everything we do, why we get up in the morning, what we are going to do all day, if we can do the things we want to do.... for some people, it's not love, it's a necessity. that initself may be there's more anger and hate today in the world.


Money is an inanimate object. It is neither good nor evil. It is the importance one places on it that is good or evil. It's how one uses money that is good or evil.



true... but it does have influence...think of what people do to get it and then keep it. murder, cheat, lie, steal, sell drugs,ect...seems like honest people are getting to be extinct.
but then again, good and bad are just words, and what what might be good or bad to me, will be different to someone else in their mind.

Ladylid2012's photo
Mon 07/12/10 07:03 PM


Hate is too easy...it takes courage and strength to love and spread love.


Quoted for truth and because it's the best statement I've seen in a post for a long time....

flowerforyou

Ruth34611's photo
Mon 07/12/10 07:03 PM

think of what people do


This is my point....right here. It's NOT the money. If we didn't have money and we used a bartering system then dishonest and greedy people would be doing all those evil things to get the resources. It's the person who is good or evil. Not the resource.

And, I'm sorry you think most people are like that. Most people are not. But enough are to make life very difficult at times.

msharmony's photo
Mon 07/12/10 07:05 PM
I think we have to seek positive people and positive things, I agree that it SEEMS as if negativity has gained in popularity and 'cool' points (people love the Simon Cowells and reality tv spoiled brats)

nice doesnt seem to sell quite as well as it used ot (leave it to beaver days,,,)



It takes much more effort to find positivity these days,

but when you find positive people , it makes them all the more valuable and appreciated,,,,so maybe all the negativity serves a positive purpose after all..

Ruth34611's photo
Mon 07/12/10 07:06 PM

I think we have to seek positive people and positive things, I agree that it SEEMS as if negativity has gained in popularity and 'cool' points (people love the Simon Cowells and reality tv spoiled brats)

nice doesnt seem to sell quite as well as it used ot (leave it to beaver days,,,)



It takes much more effort to find positivity these days,

but when you find positive people , it makes them all the more valuable and appreciated,,,,so maybe all the negativity serves a positive purpose after all..


Exactly. flowerforyou

Dragoness's photo
Mon 07/12/10 07:08 PM
If you have noticed, Obama has been trying very hard to stay positive and cooperative.

Maybe that is why he is misunderstood?

msharmony's photo
Mon 07/12/10 07:10 PM

If you have noticed, Obama has been trying very hard to stay positive and cooperative.

Maybe that is why he is misunderstood?


I dont think he is misunderstood so much as hated(for personal reasons),,

one minute he didnt react FAST enough to the spill but the next his reaction was 'extortion',,,,,,nothing he does or doesnt do wont get criticized by some folks,,


but thats a different thread


it didnt help Carter either,, but I still have alot of respect for level headed , intelligent, and diplomatic types

mightymoe's photo
Mon 07/12/10 07:12 PM


think of what people do


This is my point....right here. It's NOT the money. If we didn't have money and we used a bartering system then dishonest and greedy people would be doing all those evil things to get the resources. It's the person who is good or evil. Not the resource.

And, I'm sorry you think most people are like that. Most people are not. But enough are to make life very difficult at times.


it's the same thing, evil is evil, no matter what form it takes...
sorry about the off topic, just my rant for the day.

Ruth34611's photo
Mon 07/12/10 07:17 PM
I don't think you're getting what I'm saying, but that's okay. I'll put it this way and then forget it....

To say that money is evil is like saying that guns kill people. Guns don't kill people. People kill people. Money is not evil. People (some) are evil.

But, that's enough of this. I'm gonna go play with my children and remember that MOST people are beautiful. drinker

Ladylid2012's photo
Mon 07/12/10 07:18 PM

I don't think you're getting what I'm saying, but that's okay. I'll put it this way and then forget it....

To say that money is evil is like saying that guns kill people. Guns don't kill people. People kill people. Money is not evil. People (some) are evil.

But, that's enough of this. I'm gonna go play with my children and remember that MOST people are beautiful. drinker


You sure are Ruth flowerforyou

mightymoe's photo
Mon 07/12/10 07:26 PM

I don't think you're getting what I'm saying, but that's okay. I'll put it this way and then forget it....

To say that money is evil is like saying that guns kill people. Guns don't kill people. People kill people. Money is not evil. People (some) are evil.

But, that's enough of this. I'm gonna go play with my children and remember that MOST people are beautiful. drinker


i understand, but what makes the people evil? money, guns, sex, drugs, its all the same evil is evil. people are beautiful, but beautiful people become evil, or bad, because of something.

Dragoness's photo
Mon 07/12/10 07:28 PM
Edited by Dragoness on Mon 07/12/10 07:29 PM

I don't think you're getting what I'm saying, but that's okay. I'll put it this way and then forget it....

To say that money is evil is like saying that guns kill people. Guns don't kill people. People kill people. Money is not evil. People (some) are evil.

But, that's enough of this. I'm gonna go play with my children and remember that MOST people are beautiful. drinker



Because of the mechanical mechanism in a gun it can kill without the intent of a person. So technically guns do kill.

Off topic but had to specify that.

Money on the other had cannot "go off" by itself when dropped...lol

Dragoness's photo
Mon 07/12/10 07:31 PM


If you have noticed, Obama has been trying very hard to stay positive and cooperative.

Maybe that is why he is misunderstood?


I dont think he is misunderstood so much as hated(for personal reasons),,

one minute he didnt react FAST enough to the spill but the next his reaction was 'extortion',,,,,,nothing he does or doesnt do wont get criticized by some folks,,


but thats a different thread


it didnt help Carter either,, but I still have alot of respect for level headed , intelligent, and diplomatic types


Not really a different thread though is it?

Hatred for other reasons and trying to sling enough mud hoping something sticks and makes their target look as bad as they feel he is.

no photo
Mon 07/12/10 07:33 PM

I don't think you're getting what I'm saying, but that's okay. I'll put it this way and then forget it....

To say that money is evil is like saying that guns kill people. Guns don't kill people. People kill people. Money is not evil. People (some) are evil.

But, that's enough of this. I'm gonna go play with my children and remember that MOST people are beautiful. drinker


I agree with what you are saying but I would like to note that when it comes to guns, and indeed it is people that kill people, guns make the job a whole lot easier and more efficient. Just point and shoot but to do the same with a cold weapon (knife, bat or frying pan) you got to get up close and use force. Not as easy. You will have less killings if we only had access to cold weapons vs hot weapons (guns).

Dragoness's photo
Mon 07/12/10 07:35 PM


I don't think you're getting what I'm saying, but that's okay. I'll put it this way and then forget it....

To say that money is evil is like saying that guns kill people. Guns don't kill people. People kill people. Money is not evil. People (some) are evil.

But, that's enough of this. I'm gonna go play with my children and remember that MOST people are beautiful. drinker


i understand, but what makes the people evil? money, guns, sex, drugs, its all the same evil is evil. people are beautiful, but beautiful people become evil, or bad, because of something.


Even the most fair and just person can do something bad.

What makes them unevil is that when they realize what they have done, whether intentional or not, they fess up and correct it to the best of their ability.

Sometimes intent is based from a skewed perception of feeling threatened or something.

Most hatred is rooted in fear, ignorance and tradition. Not all at once necessarily or with all at once.

mightymoe's photo
Mon 07/12/10 07:39 PM



I don't think you're getting what I'm saying, but that's okay. I'll put it this way and then forget it....

To say that money is evil is like saying that guns kill people. Guns don't kill people. People kill people. Money is not evil. People (some) are evil.

But, that's enough of this. I'm gonna go play with my children and remember that MOST people are beautiful. drinker


i understand, but what makes the people evil? money, guns, sex, drugs, its all the same evil is evil. people are beautiful, but beautiful people become evil, or bad, because of something.


Even the most fair and just person can do something bad.

What makes them unevil is that when they realize what they have done, whether intentional or not, they fess up and correct it to the best of their ability.

Sometimes intent is based from a skewed perception of feeling threatened or something.

Most hatred is rooted in fear, ignorance and tradition. Not all at once necessarily or with all at once.


yes, nicely put...

flowerforyou

Dragoness's photo
Mon 07/12/10 07:42 PM




I don't think you're getting what I'm saying, but that's okay. I'll put it this way and then forget it....

To say that money is evil is like saying that guns kill people. Guns don't kill people. People kill people. Money is not evil. People (some) are evil.

But, that's enough of this. I'm gonna go play with my children and remember that MOST people are beautiful. drinker


i understand, but what makes the people evil? money, guns, sex, drugs, its all the same evil is evil. people are beautiful, but beautiful people become evil, or bad, because of something.


Even the most fair and just person can do something bad.

What makes them unevil is that when they realize what they have done, whether intentional or not, they fess up and correct it to the best of their ability.

Sometimes intent is based from a skewed perception of feeling threatened or something.

Most hatred is rooted in fear, ignorance and tradition. Not all at once necessarily or with all at once.


yes, nicely put...

flowerforyou


Thanksflowerforyou

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