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Topic: From Government for Kids
mightymoe's photo
Mon 06/28/10 05:12 PM

willing2's photo
Mon 06/28/10 05:51 PM


Oh really? You mean like Closing Gitmo immediately? No... Hmmmm Ending the war in Iraq immediately? No... Hmmmmmm An open and transparent administration? No... Hmmmmmm Holding public hearings and including everything on CSPAN? No... Hmmmmmm Posting complete bill on the internet for 5 days before signing them into law? No... Hmmmmmm. I can keep going if you would like.

He made over 500 promises.
He's made good on about 35.
That would make about 90% he's followed through on, right, Lpdon?:wink:

Lpdon's photo
Mon 06/28/10 06:16 PM



Oh really? You mean like Closing Gitmo immediately? No... Hmmmm Ending the war in Iraq immediately? No... Hmmmmmm An open and transparent administration? No... Hmmmmmm Holding public hearings and including everything on CSPAN? No... Hmmmmmm Posting complete bill on the internet for 5 days before signing them into law? No... Hmmmmmm. I can keep going if you would like.

He made over 500 promises.
He's made good on about 35.
That would make about 90% he's followed through on, right, Lpdon?:wink:


Wow? He got as high as 35? I need to sit down from the shock.

Dragoness's photo
Mon 06/28/10 06:40 PM



no new taxes... remember that one? every prez says what we wanna hear, it's his (or hers) job to get elected, no matter what. obama is an elegant statesman, has great speech writers, and is very intelligent. but no prez can keep the promises they make, because they never have any intention of keeping them. obama is gonna be busy cleaning up bushes mess for a while, so even if he wanted to keep any of the pre elect promises that he made, he won't be able to.grumble drinker



actually, many of his 'promises' have happened


Oh really? You mean like Closing Gitmo immediately? No... Hmmmm Ending the war in Iraq immediately? No... Hmmmmmm An open and transparent administration? No... Hmmmmmm Holding public hearings and including everything on CSPAN? No... Hmmmmmm Posting complete bill on the internet for 5 days before signing them into law? No... Hmmmmmm. I can keep going if you would like.


No you can't those are all the selling points of rightwing hate sites.

Not all of them are accurate but they are what the right wing is holding onto.

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Mon 06/28/10 06:43 PM
Edited by Dragoness on Mon 06/28/10 06:43 PM




Considering that the economic advisers told him that he needs to flood the system with money and not worry about the deficit, that is what was needed.

Just like when we go into debt for our homes. That debt will pay us back in the long run.


So will the money spent during this recession.

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Mon 06/28/10 06:46 PM




no new taxes... remember that one? every prez says what we wanna hear, it's his (or hers) job to get elected, no matter what. obama is an elegant statesman, has great speech writers, and is very intelligent. but no prez can keep the promises they make, because they never have any intention of keeping them. obama is gonna be busy cleaning up bushes mess for a while, so even if he wanted to keep any of the pre elect promises that he made, he won't be able to.grumble drinker



actually, many of his 'promises' have happened


Oh really? You mean like Closing Gitmo immediately? No... Hmmmm Ending the war in Iraq immediately? No... Hmmmmmm An open and transparent administration? No... Hmmmmmm Holding public hearings and including everything on CSPAN? No... Hmmmmmm Posting complete bill on the internet for 5 days before signing them into law? No... Hmmmmmm. I can keep going if you would like.


No you can't those are all the selling points of rightwing hate sites.

Not all of them are accurate but they are what the right wing is holding onto.


Actually, Jon Stewart called him out on those using video of BO here http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/tue-june-15-2010/respect-my-authoritah

It's not "talking points".

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Mon 06/28/10 06:47 PM





Considering that the economic advisers told him that he needs to flood the system with money and not worry about the deficit, that is what was needed.

Just like when we go into debt for our homes. That debt will pay us back in the long run.


So will the money spent during this recession.
no, the debt will not pay us back, but our kids will have to pay it back. Nice that we condemn our kids to pay our debts. What brilliant ppl we are

Dragoness's photo
Mon 06/28/10 06:49 PM






Considering that the economic advisers told him that he needs to flood the system with money and not worry about the deficit, that is what was needed.

Just like when we go into debt for our homes. That debt will pay us back in the long run.


So will the money spent during this recession.
no, the debt will not pay us back, but our kids will have to pay it back. Nice that we condemn our kids to pay our debts. What brilliant ppl we are


I disagree.


Dragoness's photo
Mon 06/28/10 06:51 PM





no new taxes... remember that one? every prez says what we wanna hear, it's his (or hers) job to get elected, no matter what. obama is an elegant statesman, has great speech writers, and is very intelligent. but no prez can keep the promises they make, because they never have any intention of keeping them. obama is gonna be busy cleaning up bushes mess for a while, so even if he wanted to keep any of the pre elect promises that he made, he won't be able to.grumble drinker



actually, many of his 'promises' have happened


Oh really? You mean like Closing Gitmo immediately? No... Hmmmm Ending the war in Iraq immediately? No... Hmmmmmm An open and transparent administration? No... Hmmmmmm Holding public hearings and including everything on CSPAN? No... Hmmmmmm Posting complete bill on the internet for 5 days before signing them into law? No... Hmmmmmm. I can keep going if you would like.


No you can't those are all the selling points of rightwing hate sites.

Not all of them are accurate but they are what the right wing is holding onto.


Actually, Jon Stewart called him out on those using video of BO here http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/tue-june-15-2010/respect-my-authoritah

It's not "talking points".


I said selling points of right wing hatemongering.

Doesn't matter who put them on a video, they are still not all accurate and they are meant to spread half truths and misinformation.

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Mon 06/28/10 06:56 PM
Edited by heavenlyboy34 on Mon 06/28/10 06:56 PM






no new taxes... remember that one? every prez says what we wanna hear, it's his (or hers) job to get elected, no matter what. obama is an elegant statesman, has great speech writers, and is very intelligent. but no prez can keep the promises they make, because they never have any intention of keeping them. obama is gonna be busy cleaning up bushes mess for a while, so even if he wanted to keep any of the pre elect promises that he made, he won't be able to.grumble drinker



actually, many of his 'promises' have happened


Oh really? You mean like Closing Gitmo immediately? No... Hmmmm Ending the war in Iraq immediately? No... Hmmmmmm An open and transparent administration? No... Hmmmmmm Holding public hearings and including everything on CSPAN? No... Hmmmmmm Posting complete bill on the internet for 5 days before signing them into law? No... Hmmmmmm. I can keep going if you would like.


No you can't those are all the selling points of rightwing hate sites.

Not all of them are accurate but they are what the right wing is holding onto.


Actually, Jon Stewart called him out on those using video of BO here http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/tue-june-15-2010/respect-my-authoritah

It's not "talking points".


I said selling points of right wing hatemongering.

Doesn't matter who put them on a video, they are still not all accurate and they are meant to spread half truths and misinformation.

His own words are not accurate? half truths and misinformation? laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh rofl rofl rofl rofl I'm soooo glad you're here, because I could not make up such nonsensical, hypocritical foolishness by myself! rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl

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Mon 06/28/10 06:59 PM





no new taxes... remember that one? every prez says what we wanna hear, it's his (or hers) job to get elected, no matter what. obama is an elegant statesman, has great speech writers, and is very intelligent. but no prez can keep the promises they make, because they never have any intention of keeping them. obama is gonna be busy cleaning up bushes mess for a while, so even if he wanted to keep any of the pre elect promises that he made, he won't be able to.grumble drinker



actually, many of his 'promises' have happened


Oh really? You mean like Closing Gitmo immediately? No... Hmmmm Ending the war in Iraq immediately? No... Hmmmmmm An open and transparent administration? No... Hmmmmmm Holding public hearings and including everything on CSPAN? No... Hmmmmmm Posting complete bill on the internet for 5 days before signing them into law? No... Hmmmmmm. I can keep going if you would like.


No you can't those are all the selling points of rightwing hate sites.

Not all of them are accurate but they are what the right wing is holding onto.


Actually, Jon Stewart called him out on those using video of BO here http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/tue-june-15-2010/respect-my-authoritah

It's not "talking points".


Anything against Obama is considered racist, hate speech or hate site. Didn't you know that?

Lpdon's photo
Mon 06/28/10 07:00 PM






no new taxes... remember that one? every prez says what we wanna hear, it's his (or hers) job to get elected, no matter what. obama is an elegant statesman, has great speech writers, and is very intelligent. but no prez can keep the promises they make, because they never have any intention of keeping them. obama is gonna be busy cleaning up bushes mess for a while, so even if he wanted to keep any of the pre elect promises that he made, he won't be able to.grumble drinker



actually, many of his 'promises' have happened


Oh really? You mean like Closing Gitmo immediately? No... Hmmmm Ending the war in Iraq immediately? No... Hmmmmmm An open and transparent administration? No... Hmmmmmm Holding public hearings and including everything on CSPAN? No... Hmmmmmm Posting complete bill on the internet for 5 days before signing them into law? No... Hmmmmmm. I can keep going if you would like.


No you can't those are all the selling points of rightwing hate sites.

Not all of them are accurate but they are what the right wing is holding onto.


Actually, Jon Stewart called him out on those using video of BO here http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/tue-june-15-2010/respect-my-authoritah

It's not "talking points".


I said selling points of right wing hatemongering.

Doesn't matter who put them on a video, they are still not all accurate and they are meant to spread half truths and misinformation.


Umm you realize that Jon Stewart is a Liberal\Socialist right?

heavenlyboy34's photo
Mon 06/28/10 07:02 PM






no new taxes... remember that one? every prez says what we wanna hear, it's his (or hers) job to get elected, no matter what. obama is an elegant statesman, has great speech writers, and is very intelligent. but no prez can keep the promises they make, because they never have any intention of keeping them. obama is gonna be busy cleaning up bushes mess for a while, so even if he wanted to keep any of the pre elect promises that he made, he won't be able to.grumble drinker



actually, many of his 'promises' have happened


Oh really? You mean like Closing Gitmo immediately? No... Hmmmm Ending the war in Iraq immediately? No... Hmmmmmm An open and transparent administration? No... Hmmmmmm Holding public hearings and including everything on CSPAN? No... Hmmmmmm Posting complete bill on the internet for 5 days before signing them into law? No... Hmmmmmm. I can keep going if you would like.


No you can't those are all the selling points of rightwing hate sites.

Not all of them are accurate but they are what the right wing is holding onto.


Actually, Jon Stewart called him out on those using video of BO here http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/tue-june-15-2010/respect-my-authoritah

It's not "talking points".


Anything against Obama is considered racist, hate speech or hate site. Didn't you know that?


I know that, I just like to point out the epic hypocrisy and lack of thought of hack political ideologues.

Lpdon's photo
Mon 06/28/10 07:03 PM







no new taxes... remember that one? every prez says what we wanna hear, it's his (or hers) job to get elected, no matter what. obama is an elegant statesman, has great speech writers, and is very intelligent. but no prez can keep the promises they make, because they never have any intention of keeping them. obama is gonna be busy cleaning up bushes mess for a while, so even if he wanted to keep any of the pre elect promises that he made, he won't be able to.grumble drinker



actually, many of his 'promises' have happened


Oh really? You mean like Closing Gitmo immediately? No... Hmmmm Ending the war in Iraq immediately? No... Hmmmmmm An open and transparent administration? No... Hmmmmmm Holding public hearings and including everything on CSPAN? No... Hmmmmmm Posting complete bill on the internet for 5 days before signing them into law? No... Hmmmmmm. I can keep going if you would like.


No you can't those are all the selling points of rightwing hate sites.

Not all of them are accurate but they are what the right wing is holding onto.


Actually, Jon Stewart called him out on those using video of BO here http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/tue-june-15-2010/respect-my-authoritah

It's not "talking points".


Anything against Obama is considered racist, hate speech or hate site. Didn't you know that?


I know that, I just like to point out the epic hypocrisy and lack of thought of hack political ideologues.


That was meat to once again discredit a certain member and her constant Racist Right Wing crap.

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Mon 06/28/10 07:09 PM



Oh really? You mean like Closing Gitmo immediately? No... Hmmmm Ending the war in Iraq immediately? No... Hmmmmmm An open and transparent administration? No... Hmmmmmm Holding public hearings and including everything on CSPAN? No... Hmmmmmm Posting complete bill on the internet for 5 days before signing them into law? No... Hmmmmmm. I can keep going if you would like.

He made over 500 promises.
He's made good on about 35.
That would make about 90% he's followed through on, right, Lpdon?:wink:



he has made good on about 117 in approximately 16 months,,,,,so,,,

continuing at that rate,,,he should near 351 out of 500,,but I suspect it will be closer to about 400 considering the healthcare issue held things up for several months,,,

but we have 2/3 more of his term to make a final assessment

Dragoness's photo
Mon 06/28/10 07:25 PM







no new taxes... remember that one? every prez says what we wanna hear, it's his (or hers) job to get elected, no matter what. obama is an elegant statesman, has great speech writers, and is very intelligent. but no prez can keep the promises they make, because they never have any intention of keeping them. obama is gonna be busy cleaning up bushes mess for a while, so even if he wanted to keep any of the pre elect promises that he made, he won't be able to.grumble drinker



actually, many of his 'promises' have happened


Oh really? You mean like Closing Gitmo immediately? No... Hmmmm Ending the war in Iraq immediately? No... Hmmmmmm An open and transparent administration? No... Hmmmmmm Holding public hearings and including everything on CSPAN? No... Hmmmmmm Posting complete bill on the internet for 5 days before signing them into law? No... Hmmmmmm. I can keep going if you would like.


No you can't those are all the selling points of rightwing hate sites.

Not all of them are accurate but they are what the right wing is holding onto.


Actually, Jon Stewart called him out on those using video of BO here http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/tue-june-15-2010/respect-my-authoritah

It's not "talking points".


I said selling points of right wing hatemongering.

Doesn't matter who put them on a video, they are still not all accurate and they are meant to spread half truths and misinformation.

His own words are not accurate? half truths and misinformation? laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh rofl rofl rofl rofl I'm soooo glad you're here, because I could not make up such nonsensical, hypocritical foolishness by myself! rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl


The list is not his words.

They take partial bits of the speech, not using the whole information on the half truth ones and they just plain lie on others.

I cannot find those blatant propaganda crap entertaining but if you can good for you?:

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Mon 06/28/10 07:27 PM



no new taxes... remember that one? every prez says what we wanna hear, it's his (or hers) job to get elected, no matter what. obama is an elegant statesman, has great speech writers, and is very intelligent. but no prez can keep the promises they make, because they never have any intention of keeping them. obama is gonna be busy cleaning up bushes mess for a while, so even if he wanted to keep any of the pre elect promises that he made, he won't be able to.grumble drinker



actually, many of his 'promises' have happened


Oh really? You mean like Closing Gitmo immediately? No... Hmmmm Ending the war in Iraq immediately? No... Hmmmmmm An open and transparent administration? No... Hmmmmmm Holding public hearings and including everything on CSPAN? No... Hmmmmmm Posting complete bill on the internet for 5 days before signing them into law? No... Hmmmmmm. I can keep going if you would like.


no, I mean like the healthcare bill, credit card bill of rights, medicare revisions, increased student pell grants, giving the direction to end the Iraq war and disallow permanent bases there, restoring funding to anti-drug/anti-gang task forces, timely release of presidential records, assistance to low income first time mothers, restoring funding to the EEOC, investing in clean technology, approving funds to rebuild schools in Louisiana,,,,,

I can keep going on as well,,,

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Mon 06/28/10 08:14 PM




Oh really? You mean like Closing Gitmo immediately? No... Hmmmm Ending the war in Iraq immediately? No... Hmmmmmm An open and transparent administration? No... Hmmmmmm Holding public hearings and including everything on CSPAN? No... Hmmmmmm Posting complete bill on the internet for 5 days before signing them into law? No... Hmmmmmm. I can keep going if you would like.

He made over 500 promises.
He's made good on about 35.
That would make about 90% he's followed through on, right, Lpdon?:wink:


Wow? He got as high as 35? I need to sit down from the shock.

Of those approximate 35, possibly 98% were self and Special Interest serving, leaving present and future tax-payers a hefty bill.

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Mon 06/28/10 09:57 PM





Oh really? You mean like Closing Gitmo immediately? No... Hmmmm Ending the war in Iraq immediately? No... Hmmmmmm An open and transparent administration? No... Hmmmmmm Holding public hearings and including everything on CSPAN? No... Hmmmmmm Posting complete bill on the internet for 5 days before signing them into law? No... Hmmmmmm. I can keep going if you would like.

He made over 500 promises.
He's made good on about 35.
That would make about 90% he's followed through on, right, Lpdon?:wink:


Wow? He got as high as 35? I need to sit down from the shock.

Of those approximate 35, possibly 98% were self and Special Interest serving, leaving present and future tax-payers a hefty bill.


Oh yeah. laugh (Not funny though.)

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