"Wir halten miteinander aus
Wir halten zueinander
Niemand hält uns auf..."

"We hold together [1]

We put up with each other
We stick together
No one will slow us down..."

[1] - The song uses the verb 'halten' in multiple ways, so therefore the actual intent of the word is lost in translation.


What do you put up with to hold a relationship together, if anything? What are you willing to look past in order for "love" or "sanctity?" Do you think love can exist in adverse conditions where one person is on a completly different path than the partner?

I'll let ya' know when I'm in a relationship (lol). I've been so focused on my career I've neglected that area of my life for some time.

After raising 3 boys I think I can put up with just about anything.
Laundry all over the place, pissing all over the bathroom, xboz360 going 24/7....

Seriously though...I pretty tolerant, even fair to say allowing. One thing that is really important is that I get to be me so I can give the same.
I won't put up with meanness, harsh judgments on others, a drunkard, or a cheater. I think love can exist in adverse conditions when both are aware and want 'love' enough. Completely different paths would be tough. I think core values need to be similar.

Just out of curiosity...what do you consider a 'drunkard?'

I would consider a 'drunkard' one who drinks often and get drunk every time they drink.

Fair enough, thanks for the explanation.

What??? What's up Fear...no 20 questions, no third degree..

are you drunk???

I'm buzzed, but I'm Irish...so my buzz is really like your drunk. Haha!

oh pffft

The way I see this, I'll be more clear..at the risk of having someone strongly disagree with me. There are a couple reasons why I couldn't be with a 'drunkard'
I choose not to drink... So part of why I couldn't be with a 'drunkard' is it's tough to be sober around drunks, generally speaking drunks are obnoxious. Not always, but generally.
Now if someone comes home from work, needs a wind down drink or on a hot summer day wants to drink a few beers or something, I get that and I'm ok with it.
Here is the thing with me...there is one who has that drink or a few beers then they can stop. Then there is the one who drinks often with full intention of getting drunk. To me one who drinks often (which would be everyday) with the intention of getting drunk has issues. The reason I say that is because to want to get drunk every time you drink is self medicating, dulling pain, covering up a problem, etc.
If someone is doing this, then I am wanting to avoid being in an intimate relationship with them. I don't want to be with one who has issues to the point that they need, want to be drunk each day.
Maybe that makes sense to some, maybe not to others.

2 people can have wonderful relationship under these conditions but it wont last beyond a certain point. (that point being at any time from 1 day to a lifetime) It all depends on the ability to manage ones time w/their partner and the level of tolerance one has in accepting their partners desires/goals.

I can barely, just barely, deal with someone who squeezes the toothpaste from the middle of the tube...

But... someone who steals the blankets from me in the middle of the night... that's a different story altogether.

A lifetime is way beyond a certain point.