Topic: The Persian Empire
Milesoftheusa's photo
Wed 06/23/10 08:15 PM
Why is it that Iran seems to be the only country in the middle east that will not bow down to the U.S.?

They are different than the other Arab countries as they claim to be the Old Persian Empire.

And by old maps from just the 20th century they were called Persia.

They believe a Messiah is coming the Mahdi.

Why is it all we here is bad news about them on the news yet really very little news about who they are?

Here is a little about the Mahdi they are looking for.. Blessings...Miles




– HAZRAT MAHDI (AS) WILL SPIRITUALLY CONQUER THE WORLD >>>

– HAZRAT MAHDI (AS) WILL BE UNAFFECTED BY CERTAIN PEOPLE’S NEGATIVE COMMENTS AND WILL MAKE NO CONCESSIONS REGARDING BEHAVING IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE QUR’AN >>>

– IT IS WRITTEN IN THE GOSPEL THAT THE PROPHET JESUS (AS) WILL RETURN TO EARTH THIS CENTURY >>>

– VERSES 1-3 OF SURAT AL-FATH CONTAIN REFERENCES TO THE END TIMES AND HAZRAT MAHDI (AS) >>>

– HAZRAT MAHDI (AS) WILL POSSESS SECRET AND SPECIAL KNOWLEDGE LIKE THE HIDDEN KNOWLEDGE (ILM AL-LADUN) FROM THE PRESENCE OF ALLAH >>>

– BEDIUZZAMAN'S WORDS CONCERNING THE TIMING OF THE COMING OF HAZRAT MAHDI (AS) >>>

– Allah refers to the end times and Hazrat Mahdi (as) in Surat an-Nasr, verses 1-3 >>>

– DURING THE TIME OF HAZRAT MAHDI'S (AS) OCCULTATION (GHAYBAH), VIOLENCE, ANARCHY AND PKK TERROR WILL EMERGE IN SOCIETY, AND PEOPLE WILL TURN AWAY FROM RELIGION >>>

– VERSE 9 OF SURAT AS-SAFF REFERS TO THE END TIMES AND HAZRAT MAHDI (AS) >>>

– VERSE 13 OF SURAT AS-SAFF REFERS TO THE END TIMES AND HAZRAT MAHDI (AS) >>>

– VERSE 139 OF SURAH AL 'IMRAN REFERS TO THE END TIMES AND HAZRAT MAHDI (AS) >>>

– KNOWLEDGE OF THE UNSEEN (GHAIB) >>>

– VERSE 105 OF SURAT AL-ANBIYA' REFERS TO THE END TIMES AND HAZRAT MAHDI (AS) >>>

– WHEN HAZRAT MAHDI (AS) APPEARS, ALL THE SECTS WILL SWEAR ALLEGIANCE TO HIM, BECAUSE HAZRAT MAHDI (AS) IS THE GREATEST SPIRITUAL TEACHER OF THE ISLAMIC WORLD >>>

– THE GREAT GUIDE ISMAIL HAQQI BURSAWI DESCRIBES THE SAVAGE CLIMATE IN THE TIME OF HAZRAT MAHDI (AS) AND HAZRAT MAHDI'S (AS) PROFOUND KNOWLEDGE >>>

– THE HADITH REGARDING THE COMING OF HAZRAT MAHDI (AS) AND THE DOMINION OF THE MORAL VALUES OF ISLAM ARE COMPLETELY RELIABLE >>>

– HAZRAT MAHDI'S (AS) FOLLOWERS WILL BE MADE UP OF YOUNG PEOPLE AND WILL BE FEW IN NUMBER >>>

– HAZRAT MAHDI (AS) WILL HAVE A LIGHT BEARD, THIN AT THE SIDES AND LONG AT THE FRONT >>>

– VERSES 89-91 OF SURAT AL-HIJR REFER TO THE END TIMES AND HAZRAT MAHDI (AS) >>>

– VERSE 10 OF SURAH TA HA REFERS TO THE COMING OF HAZRAT MAHDI (AS) >>>

– HAZRAT MAHDI (AS) WILL DISTANT ISLAM FROM ATHEIST CURRENTS AND INNOVATIONS, AND WILL CALL ON PEOPLE TO HAVE FAITH >>>

– PEOPLE IN MANY DIFFERENT CITIES WILL BE ABLE TO HEAR HAZRAT MAHDI (AS) PREACH THE WORD AT THE SAME TIME >>>

– VERSES 14 AND 15 OF SURAH IBRAHIM CONTAIN REFERENCES TO THE END TIMES AND HAZRAT MAHDI (AS) >>>

– SEVENTY THOUSAND SCHOLARS WEARING TURBANS WILL SUPPORT THE DAJJAL AGAINST HAZRAT MAHDI (AS) >>>

– OUR PROPHET (SAAS) HAS DRAWN MUSLIMS' ATTENTION TO THE HYPOCRITES >>>

– REFERENCES TO THE END TIMES AND HAZRAT MAHDI (AS) IN VERSE 55 OF SURAT AN-NUR >>>

– REFERENCES TO THE ERA OF HAZRAT MAHDI (PBUH) IN THE TORAH >>>


arcxjo's photo
Wed 06/23/10 09:19 PM
I have to think that part of why they don't like America over there is that way back in the 1950s they actually had a democratic government that the CIA overthrew so that the Americans and Brits could install a despotic monarch who'd give them cheaper oil.

You know what I always found funny, though? The name of the country "Iran" actually means "Land of the Aryans" in Persian, but you never see any blue-eyed blonde Iranians.

CowboyGH's photo
Wed 06/23/10 09:29 PM
"Why is it that Iran seems to be the only country in the middle east that will not bow down to the U.S.?"
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They won't just bow down to the U.S. they won't follow anyone. They never will. There will never be piece in the middle east. That has done been prophesied years ago when Jesus was crucified. For the crucifixion their will never be piece in the middle east.

Milesoftheusa's photo
Thu 06/24/10 12:20 AM

"Why is it that Iran seems to be the only country in the middle east that will not bow down to the U.S.?"
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They won't just bow down to the U.S. they won't follow anyone. They never will. There will never be piece in the middle east. That has done been prophesied years ago when Jesus was crucified. For the crucifixion their will never be piece in the middle east.



I have to believe they believe they are the chosen people. Even refering to the Torah.

Cyrus is spoken of many times in the Bible as are many Persian kings. They thought highly of the Israelites Diety Yahweh speaking in manuscripts of thier own of the great knowledge these people had.

Even in 70ad destruction of Jerusalem when the Jews and new converts were fleeing for thier lives the Persians gave them asylem.

Since the Tigris I believe was the Truce line for the Roman Empire and Persian.

Even Peter speaks of the Assemblies in Babylon which was Persia.


1 Peter 5:13-14

13 She who is in Babylon, elect together with you, greets you; and so does Mark my son. 14 Greet one another with a kiss of love.
NKJV


So to me some is hard to understand why they hate Israel now.

Somewhere this hatred had to come along since 70ad where u can find the Jews and New converts fled to already established Assemblies and throughout what old Persia was you can find names of cities who fall in line with the names of Davids Descendants.

I would not even be suprised if the words he has used to destroy Israel are not from the Book of Wisdom itself.The Ps.

Ps 83:1-5

Do not keep silent, O Elohim!
Do not hold Your peace,
And do not be still, O Elohim!
2 For behold, Your enemies make a tumult;
And those who hate You have lifted up their head.
3 They have taken crafty counsel against Your people,
And consulted together against Your sheltered ones.
4 They have said, "Come, and let us cut them off from being a nation,
That the name of Israel may be remembered no more."

5 For they have consulted together with one consent;
They form a confederacy against You:
NKJV


Yet i do not believe none of the nationed that is metioned as saying this was ever part of the Persian Empire.

Ps 83:6-8
6 The tents of Edom and the Ishmaelites;
Moab and the Hagrites;
7 Gebal, Ammon, and Amalek;
Philistia with the inhabitants of Tyre;
8 Assyria also has joined with them;
They have helped the children of Lot.

NKJV

It has to go way deeper in his hatred of Israel. Blessings...Miles

2sparrows's photo
Thu 06/24/10 03:29 AM
Edited by 2sparrows on Thu 06/24/10 03:31 AM


"Why is it that Iran seems to be the only country in the middle east that will not bow down to the U.S.?"
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They won't just bow down to the U.S. they won't follow anyone. They never will. There will never be piece in the middle east. That has done been prophesied years ago when Jesus was crucified. For the crucifixion their will never be piece in the middle east.



I have to believe they believe they are the chosen people. Even refering to the Torah.

Cyrus is spoken of many times in the Bible as are many Persian kings. They thought highly of the Israelites Diety Yahweh speaking in manuscripts of thier own of the great knowledge these people had.

Even in 70ad destruction of Jerusalem when the Jews and new converts were fleeing for thier lives the Persians gave them asylem.

Since the Tigris I believe was the Truce line for the Roman Empire and Persian.

Even Peter speaks of the Assemblies in Babylon which was Persia.


1 Peter 5:13-14

13 She who is in Babylon, elect together with you, greets you; and so does Mark my son. 14 Greet one another with a kiss of love.
NKJV


So to me some is hard to understand why they hate Israel now.

Somewhere this hatred had to come along since 70ad where u can find the Jews and New converts fled to already established Assemblies and throughout what old Persia was you can find names of cities who fall in line with the names of Davids Descendants.

I would not even be suprised if the words he has used to destroy Israel are not from the Book of Wisdom itself.The Ps.

Ps 83:1-5

Do not keep silent, O Elohim!
Do not hold Your peace,
And do not be still, O Elohim!
2 For behold, Your enemies make a tumult;
And those who hate You have lifted up their head.
3 They have taken crafty counsel against Your people,
And consulted together against Your sheltered ones.
4 They have said, "Come, and let us cut them off from being a nation,
That the name of Israel may be remembered no more."

5 For they have consulted together with one consent;
They form a confederacy against You:
NKJV


Yet i do not believe none of the nationed that is metioned as saying this was ever part of the Persian Empire.

Ps 83:6-8
6 The tents of Edom and the Ishmaelites;
Moab and the Hagrites;
7 Gebal, Ammon, and Amalek;
Philistia with the inhabitants of Tyre;
8 Assyria also has joined with them;
They have helped the children of Lot.

NKJV

It has to go way deeper in his hatred of Israel. Blessings...Miles


About 500 years after this psalm was written all the peoples mentioned in Psalm 83 were part of the Persian Empire.

If what you are suggesting is true, it makes the Hazrat Mahdi the Beast in the book of Revelation chapter 13...(the anti-christ)

>2sparrows<

Milesoftheusa's photo
Thu 06/24/10 04:07 AM



"Why is it that Iran seems to be the only country in the middle east that will not bow down to the U.S.?"
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They won't just bow down to the U.S. they won't follow anyone. They never will. There will never be piece in the middle east. That has done been prophesied years ago when Jesus was crucified. For the crucifixion their will never be piece in the middle east.



I have to believe they believe they are the chosen people. Even refering to the Torah.

Cyrus is spoken of many times in the Bible as are many Persian kings. They thought highly of the Israelites Diety Yahweh speaking in manuscripts of thier own of the great knowledge these people had.

Even in 70ad destruction of Jerusalem when the Jews and new converts were fleeing for thier lives the Persians gave them asylem.

Since the Tigris I believe was the Truce line for the Roman Empire and Persian.

Even Peter speaks of the Assemblies in Babylon which was Persia.


1 Peter 5:13-14

13 She who is in Babylon, elect together with you, greets you; and so does Mark my son. 14 Greet one another with a kiss of love.
NKJV


So to me some is hard to understand why they hate Israel now.

Somewhere this hatred had to come along since 70ad where u can find the Jews and New converts fled to already established Assemblies and throughout what old Persia was you can find names of cities who fall in line with the names of Davids Descendants.

I would not even be suprised if the words he has used to destroy Israel are not from the Book of Wisdom itself.The Ps.

Ps 83:1-5

Do not keep silent, O Elohim!
Do not hold Your peace,
And do not be still, O Elohim!
2 For behold, Your enemies make a tumult;
And those who hate You have lifted up their head.
3 They have taken crafty counsel against Your people,
And consulted together against Your sheltered ones.
4 They have said, "Come, and let us cut them off from being a nation,
That the name of Israel may be remembered no more."

5 For they have consulted together with one consent;
They form a confederacy against You:
NKJV


Yet i do not believe none of the nationed that is metioned as saying this was ever part of the Persian Empire.

Ps 83:6-8
6 The tents of Edom and the Ishmaelites;
Moab and the Hagrites;
7 Gebal, Ammon, and Amalek;
Philistia with the inhabitants of Tyre;
8 Assyria also has joined with them;
They have helped the children of Lot.

NKJV

It has to go way deeper in his hatred of Israel. Blessings...Miles


About 500 years after this psalm was written all the peoples mentioned in Psalm 83 were part of the Persian Empire.

If what you are suggesting is true, it makes the Hazrat Mahdi the Beast in the book of Revelation chapter 13...(the anti-christ)

>2sparrows<



By that u could say David's Descendents were part of it also. So were the New Believers the Book of Peter speaks of also.

The Persian Empire was friends of the Israelites for a very long time.The 10 who Ps. 83 mentions is very distinct to our time right now. Thier are several family members mentioned who felt they got the Messianic Blessing through them that did not. All but 2 i guess.

As far as the Anti-messiah i do not see him or whatever coming from iran's philosophies.

One thing we must remember he will not be known as anyone but who preaches peace and love. He will decieve 99.999999% of the earths population before he is found out.. Blessings....Miles

2sparrows's photo
Thu 06/24/10 04:26 AM
Edited by 2sparrows on Thu 06/24/10 04:27 AM



"Why is it that Iran seems to be the only country in the middle east that will not bow down to the U.S.?"
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They won't just bow down to the U.S. they won't follow anyone. They never will. There will never be piece in the middle east. That has done been prophesied years ago when Jesus was crucified. For the crucifixion their will never be piece in the middle east.



I have to believe they believe they are the chosen people. Even refering to the Torah.

Cyrus is spoken of many times in the Bible as are many Persian kings. They thought highly of the Israelites Diety Yahweh speaking in manuscripts of thier own of the great knowledge these people had.

Even in 70ad destruction of Jerusalem when the Jews and new converts were fleeing for thier lives the Persians gave them asylem.

Since the Tigris I believe was the Truce line for the Roman Empire and Persian.

Even Peter speaks of the Assemblies in Babylon which was Persia.


1 Peter 5:13-14

13 She who is in Babylon, elect together with you, greets you; and so does Mark my son. 14 Greet one another with a kiss of love.
NKJV


So to me some is hard to understand why they hate Israel now.

Somewhere this hatred had to come along since 70ad where u can find the Jews and New converts fled to already established Assemblies and throughout what old Persia was you can find names of cities who fall in line with the names of Davids Descendants.

I would not even be suprised if the words he has used to destroy Israel are not from the Book of Wisdom itself.The Ps.

Ps 83:1-5

Do not keep silent, O Elohim!
Do not hold Your peace,
And do not be still, O Elohim!
2 For behold, Your enemies make a tumult;
And those who hate You have lifted up their head.
3 They have taken crafty counsel against Your people,
And consulted together against Your sheltered ones.
4 They have said, "Come, and let us cut them off from being a nation,
That the name of Israel may be remembered no more."

5 For they have consulted together with one consent;
They form a confederacy against You:
NKJV


Yet i do not believe none of the nationed that is metioned as saying this was ever part of the Persian Empire.

Ps 83:6-8
6 The tents of Edom and the Ishmaelites;
Moab and the Hagrites;
7 Gebal, Ammon, and Amalek;
Philistia with the inhabitants of Tyre;
8 Assyria also has joined with them;
They have helped the children of Lot.

NKJV

It has to go way deeper in his hatred of Israel. Blessings...Miles


About 500 years after this psalm was written all the peoples mentioned in Psalm 83 were part of the Persian Empire.

If what you are suggesting is true, it makes the Hazrat Mahdi the Beast in the book of Revelation chapter 13...(the anti-christ)

>2sparrows<



By that u could say David's Descendents were part of it also. So were the New Believers the Book of Peter speaks of also.

The descendents of David are scattered world wide, as are the "New Believers"

The Persian Empire was friends of the Israelites for a very long time.The 10 who Ps. 83 mentions is very distinct to our time right now. Thier are several family members mentioned who felt they got the Messianic Blessing through them that did not. All but 2 i guess.

At first glance that seems right.

As far as the Anti-messiah i do not see him or whatever coming from iran's philosophies.

Precisely...Just another indication Hazrat Mahdi could be the Beast in the book of Revelation chapter 13...(the anti-christ)

One thing we must remember he will not be known as anyone but who preaches peace and love. He will decieve 99.999999% of the earths population before he is found out.. Blessings....Miles

Kinda scary it has to come to that.

>2sparrows<