You read my mind darlin'...

you just said it wasn't till a couple of days ago???

(see now i'm still confused)

I'm so confused...

And here is yet another example of why I stopped dating

http://www.youtube.com/watch#!v=MsmybQKpmTw

Alright, thank you for listening people. Good night.

I thought you were waiting for me to move to Cali and to date me?

well I stopped until you move to Cali..

...i would have to question if alcohol somehow plays a part in this scenario..

but as far as choices..we always have choices...making the right one is the hard part..what may seem right at first may turn out to be the worst one later on..
..
but for the most part we tend to blame others when the fault lies within ourself...


..of course one would have to know the whole story in order to form an opinion...but then still that's all it would be is an opinion..and ya know what they say about opinions...

and this is why it is a good policy NOT to have kids with people you HATE!

I wouldn't even bump uglies with someone I hated, let alone have kids with them... I reserve hating for afterwards..

Bumping uglies? Thats a new one on me............

Seriously Jeff? OMG I wouldn't have thunk it...

I have never heard that before. I like it though.....

what? you're virgin eyes???

glad I could give you a new line Jeff..

no i'm quite surprised by that statement (his)

Seriously man. I know that the emotionality of the situation aint easy. The smart @ssed remarks and slightly condescending jabs probably won't change anything either. Everything I have read here reminds me of a good friend of mine who is a glutton for punishment and maintains contact with women who keep him on the verge of tears.

Not my place to cast judgement. Like I said....we are only getting half the story.

Obviously you are miserable. It is what it is.

When that phone rings and you pick it up on the first ring.......when you can't stop yourself from calling her late at night.....when you find her in your arms again (and you will).........then you will be a victim of yourself and refering to her as evil or a b*tch will be meaningless when you knowingly give yourself to your enemy.

Been there. Done that.

What you have to figure out now is if you are strong enough to control yourself.

The kids are a seperate issue. They will be dealt with on their own merits.
They are not something to be used for leverage, advantage or rationalizations for maintaining a failed relationship.

The only tip I can give for disconnecting emotionally from an ex......think of her as a guy. Seriously! If that old lady of yours had a d*ck, I guarantee you would have no problem being more pragmatic about the situation.

Her p**sy aint magical. She aint the last sex you will ever have. Just treat her cold and emotionless.....just like you WILL have to do when eventually you both shack up with other lovers.

I aint kidding. Treat her like you would treat a man who will raise your brood. Common courtesy but no mouth kissing. Provide what is needed for the well being of the kids but keep your pants on. Be polite. Never s**t talk in front of your spawn....stop finding an excuse to be in bed with that guy.

Good luck homeboy. Your life is in your hands.

Obviously you aren't happy. It is your choice alone to continue to be miserable or to take the shot at trying to find real love and happiness.

Whatever it takes, you guys need to get to a marriage councelor, and try to save this relationship. If nothing else, do it for the children you both love. If deep down inside, you still love her, tell her so, and explain to her you want to fix it, and be a happy family again. I bet she'll go for it, but probably not, if she catches you on a dating site.

I am the product of a broken family.

Staying together for the sake of the kids is not doing the kids any favors.

It is better to get custody or joint custody and have your own life and be true to yourself or teach your kids to live a lie.

They will learn from you and their mother and if you hate her they will think that is normal behavior.

You are not ion a good position I will admit.

It is tough to know what is right but in reality the answer has to be of mutual benefit for the kids AND YOU! Staying together for the kids is deceiving yourself and relegating yourself to that hell is the wrong answer!

If you despise her that thoroughly it is over between you two. The best you can hope for is to part as friends and the kids will just have to adapt. Do not impart hatred into your children on accident through your relationship with their mother!


Yikes this is a tough one!

HAve you tried couples counseling?
If you hate her so much, wh did you impregnate her again?
You say she is making your life miserable, but it looks like you are doing a great job of that yourself by not doing anything to amke the situation better and just whining about how bad it is.
MAN UP! Go get help and work on your relationship and stop blaming her for it being crappy. She did not get herself pregnant. IF you truly want things to get better, put some work into it to make that happen.