Dosent almost everyone have premarital sex?

Ummmm with all the cases that abound .. perhaps it was with a STUDENT?

THAT not everyone does

It had nothing to do with a student.

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/37683770/ns/today-today_people/?GT1=43001

Teacher fired for premarital sex
Jarretta Hamilton taught fourth grade at private Christian school
By Mike Celizic
TODAYshow.com contributor
updated 12:01 p.m. ET, Mon., June 14, 2010

The couple sat close together with her right hand clasped in his left hand and her left arm cradling the 8-month-old daughter whose conception cost the woman her job.

The couple’s sin, according to her former employer, Southland Christian School in St. Cloud, Fla., is fornication — having sex before they got married.

Jarretta Hamilton and her husband of 16 months, Samuel Treftz, told TODAY’s Ann Curry Monday that the termination violated federal anti-discrimination laws. In addition, they allege in a pending lawsuit, the school’s principal, Jon Ennis, invaded Hamilton’s privacy by telling other teachers and the parents of her students the exact reason she was fired.

“When they let me go, they told the entire staff in a staff meeting that I had been fired and the reason why they let me go. And then they called all of my parents to my fourth-grade students and told them as well,” Hamilton said.

Ennis declined to appear on TODAY, citing a lawsuit filed by Hamilton against the school. But in a prerecorded report filed by NBC News’ Mike Taibbi, Ennis was asked if he stood by the firing. “Yes, absolutely,” he replied.

‘Didn’t know it would cost me my job’
Hamilton said her problems are all the result of her being honest. A widow with five children from her first marriage, she had gotten work as a teacher at Southland Christian School in January 2008. Meanwhile, she also met Treftz, and they planned a Feb. 20, 2009, wedding.

Three weeks before the wedding, she conceived her daughter, Sarah.

In April 2009, Hamilton and Treftz went together to Ennis and told him she would be taking maternity leave in the fall. She says Ennis first complained that it was difficult for the school to cover women on maternity leave.

“I was only requesting a standard six weeks maternity leave, and as the conversation progressed, he said, ‘I’m just trying to do the math here. When did you get married?’ ” Hamilton told Curry.

“I said Feb. 20,” she continued. “He said, ‘Well, did you conceive prior to marriage?’ I answered and I told him, ‘Yes.’ ”

Hamilton said she answered partly because she was so surprised by the very personal question.

“I was absolutely shocked. It came out of nowhere. I was honest about it. I didn’t know it would cost me my job,” she said.

Fired for ‘fornication’
A week later, she was notified that she was terminated. In a letter sent to her attorney, Edward Gay, last July, the school’s administrator, Julie Ennis, wrote:

“Jarretta was asked not to return because of a moral issue that was disregarded, namely fornication, sex outside of marriage. The employment application, which she filled out, clearly states that as a leader before our students we require all teachers to maintain and communicate the values and purpose of our school.”

That’s a long way from saying teachers are prohibited from having premarital sex, the couple argue.

“If there was a contract in place that had a specific morality clause, I think that would make a difference,” Treftz said.

Hamilton agreed, adding, “At least people would know what they’re getting into. I didn’t know that they were going to judge so harshly; that this was the way they felt about premarital sex. I wasn’t clear what their stance was on certain issues.”

Gay, who joined the couple for the TODAY interview, said that pastors and clergy have the right to make moral decisions regarding church personnel, but this case is different because Hamilton was a teacher.

“The courts have consistently ruled that a private school is just like any other employer. As long as there’s more than 50 employees, they are governed by the law regarding discrimination,” Gay said. “The teachers are serving a secular purpose, and therefore they are governed by federal laws of discrimination.”

In the letter explaining the termination to Gay, Julie Ennis ended by asking Hamilton to give up the lawsuit.

“We request that Jarretta withdraw her complaint and consider the testimony of the Lord,” the letter concludes.

I did have a brief fling with a college professor when I was in college in 1992 she was around my age and we saw each other at a bar one night, I bought her a drink and we ended up in bed that night!! NEITHER one of us had regrets and kept on as Usual. It was great but we were both adults and knew is was a one nighter, didnt effect either one of us in class!!

Well, it is a christian school... I suppose it would depend on whether the school's position on these things were clearly communicated before employment began as to whether this is justified or not. A private school has much different criteria than do public schools as to what is permissible behavior, and you'd have to admit that premarital sex would not exactly be in line with Christian principles.

How can sex be premarital if ya' don't intend on gettin' married or it's just a one night gig?

wow, I'm NEVER having sex till I get married, I don't wanna lose m job....

just dont work at a christian school, and Im sure it wont be an issue

I remember a similar sensational story about a certain NBA team that was required to 'dress' a certain way because of the IMAGE they represented,, the requirement stood,,,,

an agreement is an agreement,,,once you sign it, you acknowledge that you agree

if you dont agree , dont sign it, and find someplace else to apply

I kind of see it as the flip side of public schools restricting certain religious expression,

,except its christian schools restricting certain secular expression,,,

I'm being sarcastic there. Pretty sure a Christian school won't be hiring me to teach kids...

Yup, seems she knew the rules...

no offense meant ms ladylid, I am aware by now of your views on such things, I apologize if any offense was taken

I just become a bit taken aback by those who DEMAND that public school is no place for christian values,, but dont want those values implemented in Christian schools either......( I dont think this refers to you,,btw)

oh no, no offense at all msharmony. I was just being sarcastic...
we need a 'sarcasm' emoticon. lol

I actually agree with you. I have always used alternative education for my boys because we didn't, don't agree with the 'norm' in my community. So yeah..she knew the rules. If she was gonna mess around that's her business...to not take the precautions and get knocked up..well, now she deals with the consequences.

I am not going to date any teachers. If thats the way it is.

Don't date a golfer and have post martial sex either.

Key word is Almost...I would think that the teachers circumstance has berring on this termination of employement..

WHAT'S THAT YOU SAY? I'm shocked, why, the hypocracy of it all how disgraceful.



I want to tell you all a story 'bout a Harper Valley widow wife
Who had a teenage daughter that attended Harper Valley Junior High
Well her daughter came home one afternoon and didn't even stop to play
And she said, "Mama, I've got a note here from the Harper Valley PTA"

Well the note says "Mrs. Johnson, you're wearing your dresses way too high
It's been reported you've been drinkin' and a runnin' round with men and goin' wild
Now we don't believe you ought to be a bringin' up your little girl this way"
And it was signed by the Secretary, Harper Valley PTA

Well it happened that the PTA was gonna meet that very afternoon
And boy, were they surprised as Mrs. Johnson wore her miniskirt into the room
And as she walked up to the blackboard I can still recall the word she had to say
She said "I'd like to address this meeting of the Harper Valley PTA

Now there's Bobby Taylor sittin' there and seven times he's asked me for a date
And Mrs. Taylor sure seems to use a lot of ice whenever he's away
And Mr. Baker can you tell us why your secretary had to leave this town
And shouldn't widow Jones be told to keep her window shades all pulled completely down

Now Mr. Harper couldn't be here 'cause he's stayed too long in Kelly's bar again
And if you smell Shirley Thompson's breath you'll find she's had a little nip of gin
And then you have the nerve to tell me as a mother you think that I ain't fit
Well this is just a little Payton place and you're all Harper Valley hypocrits

Now I wouldn't put you on because it really did, it happened just this way
That day my Mama socked it to the Harper Valley PTA

I find it pretty sad that it's 2010 and things like this are still happening.

Me too.

But then I personally find it pretty sad that people are still taking Christianity seriously.

I find it even sadder that they are teaching this nonsense to poor little innocent 4th grade childern.

I thought there were laws against child abuse?

well, I am glad we are in a place where religion is neither forced nor banned. There are places for people to send their children which specifically INCLUDE promoting the values they are teaching at home and the rules are just as valid there as anywhere else.

Promoting values is one thing. Being completely close minded and handling the situation the way it was handled is another.