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Topic: the beginning of the end
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Wed 06/02/10 04:26 AM
if this oil crisis in the Gulf spreads & kills off 1/3 of the ocean,...what will happen to those countries that rely on the ocean for their livelihood & food,..not to mention the extinction of everykind of animal & plant life imagined,..





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Wed 06/02/10 06:36 AM
Edited by Peccy on Wed 06/02/10 06:36 AM

if this oil crisis in the Gulf spreads & kills off 1/3 of the ocean,...what will happen to those countries that rely on the ocean for their livelihood & food,..not to mention the extinction of everykind of animal & plant life imagined,..





Hard to predict what the actual impact will be. Not sure anyone can talk in absolutes yet.

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Wed 06/02/10 07:11 AM
I don't know what the impact will be, all I know is that there is going to be one. Y2K either was going to happen or it wasn't. This oil leak, spill, et al, has happened. Just no concrete numbers on the environmental impact. They'll either be too conservative on the damage, or they'll blow it way out of proportion. It's like that with everything.

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Wed 06/02/10 07:45 AM
It'd be nice to have problem-solvers rather than finger-pointers and blame-tossers workin' on the problem ...

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Wed 06/02/10 12:23 PM
Hey....

give me the dishsoap....

ive got some kritters to wash.flowerforyou

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Wed 06/02/10 01:38 PM

if this oil crisis in the Gulf spreads & kills off 1/3 of the ocean,...what will happen to those countries that rely on the ocean for their livelihood & food,..not to mention the extinction of everykind of animal & plant life imagined,..







Hard to say. But I do know what it is doing locally here. People who earn a living fishing, or shrimping, or maintaining and harvesting oyster beds are pretty much helpless right now. It's hurting the industry and killing moral. I won't go into the political side of things, but if that hole isn't plugged soon, then this spill will effect alot more lives than we can imagine.

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Wed 06/02/10 01:42 PM


if this oil crisis in the Gulf spreads & kills off 1/3 of the ocean,...what will happen to those countries that rely on the ocean for their livelihood & food,..not to mention the extinction of everykind of animal & plant life imagined,..







Hard to say. But I do know what it is doing locally here. People who earn a living fishing, or shrimping, or maintaining and harvesting oyster beds are pretty much helpless right now. It's hurting the industry and killing moral. I won't go into the political side of things, but if that hole isn't plugged soon, then this spill will effect alot more lives than we can imagine.

Actually, I am looking into volunteering in the clean up.......I figured a new to start and implement change

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Wed 06/02/10 02:06 PM
Edited by willing2 on Wed 06/02/10 02:08 PM


if this oil crisis in the Gulf spreads & kills off 1/3 of the ocean,...what will happen to those countries that rely on the ocean for their livelihood & food,..not to mention the extinction of everykind of animal & plant life imagined,..







Hard to say. But I do know what it is doing locally here. People who earn a living fishing, or shrimping, or maintaining and harvesting oyster beds are pretty much helpless right now. It's hurting the industry and killing moral. I won't go into the political side of things, but if that hole isn't plugged soon, then this spill will effect alot more lives than we can imagine.


They won't even give the crabbers, fishermen or shrimpers jobs to help with the clean-up.

Hook a few shrimp boats together with their draglines fitted with absorbent pads :wink: and you got you one bodacious oil scoop.

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Wed 06/02/10 02:10 PM



if this oil crisis in the Gulf spreads & kills off 1/3 of the ocean,...what will happen to those countries that rely on the ocean for their livelihood & food,..not to mention the extinction of everykind of animal & plant life imagined,..







Hard to say. But I do know what it is doing locally here. People who earn a living fishing, or shrimping, or maintaining and harvesting oyster beds are pretty much helpless right now. It's hurting the industry and killing moral. I won't go into the political side of things, but if that hole isn't plugged soon, then this spill will effect alot more lives than we can imagine.


They won't even give the crabbers, fishermen or shrimpers jobs to help with the clean-up.

Hook a few shrimp boats together with their draglines fitted with absorbent pads :wink: and you got you one bodacious oil scoop.

It will be everyone's problem if it seeps into the natural underground aquifers, that would be a huge issue coast to coast. Many still have well and septic. It would kill crops, affecting farmers, poison local water, kill of fish, not only sea but get into the fresh water. What happens if it travels the Mississippi??

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Wed 06/02/10 02:14 PM
Not enough is being done to clean up the oil....everything possible should be used to get the oil up while it's still out to sea.

That's where Obama could have made a difference....

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Wed 06/02/10 02:20 PM



if this oil crisis in the Gulf spreads & kills off 1/3 of the ocean,...what will happen to those countries that rely on the ocean for their livelihood & food,..not to mention the extinction of everykind of animal & plant life imagined,..







Hard to say. But I do know what it is doing locally here. People who earn a living fishing, or shrimping, or maintaining and harvesting oyster beds are pretty much helpless right now. It's hurting the industry and killing moral. I won't go into the political side of things, but if that hole isn't plugged soon, then this spill will effect alot more lives than we can imagine.

Actually, I am looking into volunteering in the clean up.......I figured a new to start and implement change

You go, girl!drinker

I'm sure there are friends on here who you could count on on your way down there.

In all sincerity, I know good folks in Ms., on the coast, that would put you up and take care of you.

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Wed 06/02/10 02:25 PM
I just watched a 2 hours documentary about the Exxon spill in Alaska, 20 years after. People should watch that and learn.

Exxon hired everyone they could, thousands of locals, to assist in the cleanup effort. Now, many of those people are extremely ill with serious medical conditions caused by the exposure to the oil and the chemicals used in the cleanup.

Nobody was wearing proper personal protective equipment and they were told it was safe.

I saw it happen again on 9/11....when all those Firefighters were working without PPE's....now many are sick and dying. I was saying at the minute I saw it happening that it was a huge mistake, turns out it was.

People get in a crisis situation and panic and just want to hurry, jump in and do something. That's not the proper way to go about it. People need to be properly trained and wear proper equipment.


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Wed 06/02/10 02:28 PM
This is one of those times that it finally (maybe ... ?) comes home to people that elections have consequences.

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Wed 06/02/10 02:30 PM




if this oil crisis in the Gulf spreads & kills off 1/3 of the ocean,...what will happen to those countries that rely on the ocean for their livelihood & food,..not to mention the extinction of everykind of animal & plant life imagined,..







Hard to say. But I do know what it is doing locally here. People who earn a living fishing, or shrimping, or maintaining and harvesting oyster beds are pretty much helpless right now. It's hurting the industry and killing moral. I won't go into the political side of things, but if that hole isn't plugged soon, then this spill will effect alot more lives than we can imagine.

Actually, I am looking into volunteering in the clean up.......I figured a new to start and implement change

You go, girl!drinker

I'm sure there are friends on here who you could count on on your way down there.

In all sincerity, I know good folks in Ms., on the coast, that would put you up and take care of you.

Thanks, Willing, and will keep that in mind.......I sent out a few email enquiring today...

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Wed 06/02/10 02:31 PM

This is one of those times that it finally (maybe ... ?) comes home to people that elections have consequences.


Elections have nothing to do with it. Get real. slaphead

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Wed 06/02/10 02:32 PM

I just watched a 2 hours documentary about the Exxon spill in Alaska, 20 years after. People should watch that and learn.

Exxon hired everyone they could, thousands of locals, to assist in the cleanup effort. Now, many of those people are extremely ill with serious medical conditions caused by the exposure to the oil and the chemicals used in the cleanup.

Nobody was wearing proper personal protective equipment and they were told it was safe.

I saw it happen again on 9/11....when all those Firefighters were working without PPE's....now many are sick and dying. I was saying at the minute I saw it happening that it was a huge mistake, turns out it was.

People get in a crisis situation and panic and just want to hurry, jump in and do something. That's not the proper way to go about it. People need to be properly trained and wear proper equipment.



Full Hazmat it is.............Little orange and yellow suit here I come.....We will see how it goes with the emails and such......Florida is originally my home and I really care.......

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Wed 06/02/10 02:36 PM
Seakolony, you be VERY CAREFUL if you go down there to volunteer for the clean up!! Go watch the documentary on the Exxon Spill!!

And I was just watching the news and the had the CEO of Nalco on. He was touting how safe all these dispersants being used are. (Nalco makes the dispersants). Then after awhile, he goes on to say that Nalco will not be held liable for any lawsuits as it is the first responders (BP OIL) making the call on using the disperasants.

I wouldn't trust any of those basterds and hpe they all get brought up on criminal charges.

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Wed 06/02/10 02:51 PM
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Seakolony, you be VERY CAREFUL if you go down there to volunteer for the clean up!! Go watch the documentary on the Exxon Spill!!

And I was just watching the news and the had the CEO of Nalco on. He was touting how safe all these dispersants being used are. (Nalco makes the dispersants). Then after awhile, he goes on to say that Nalco will not be held liable for any lawsuits as it is the first responders (BP OIL) making the call on using the disperasants.

I wouldn't trust any of those basterds and hpe they all get brought up on criminal charges.

I hope that they do too, 96% of my family lives in Florida.....my sister works in Marine Biology........They have been worried about their research ship being decommisioned.........maybe with this, the University of Miami and Harbour Watch will reconsider decommissioning vessels of research and support.........I imagine Red Cross and others to be forming about the catastrophes and giving relief soon.........and we have to think on a larger scale of how many lives it would save even if I gave mine to a cause.....its the bigger picture that counts.......just wish they would do away with the freaking false economy that everyone kills themselves for......let greed end..........did we not as people survive before industrialization, false economies, deceitful politicians, and businesses. noway frustrated

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Wed 06/02/10 02:55 PM


This is one of those times that it finally (maybe ... ?) comes home to people that elections have consequences.


Elections have nothing to do with it. Get real. slaphead


This is why I put (maybe ... ?) in there ...

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Wed 06/02/10 03:46 PM




if this oil crisis in the Gulf spreads & kills off 1/3 of the ocean,...what will happen to those countries that rely on the ocean for their livelihood & food,..not to mention the extinction of everykind of animal & plant life imagined,..







Hard to say. But I do know what it is doing locally here. People who earn a living fishing, or shrimping, or maintaining and harvesting oyster beds are pretty much helpless right now. It's hurting the industry and killing moral. I won't go into the political side of things, but if that hole isn't plugged soon, then this spill will effect alot more lives than we can imagine.


They won't even give the crabbers, fishermen or shrimpers jobs to help with the clean-up.

Hook a few shrimp boats together with their draglines fitted with absorbent pads :wink: and you got you one bodacious oil scoop.

It will be everyone's problem if it seeps into the natural underground aquifers, that would be a huge issue coast to coast. Many still have well and septic. It would kill crops, affecting farmers, poison local water, kill of fish, not only sea but get into the fresh water. What happens if it travels the Mississippi??


It doesn't really work that way. It mostly washes up on the beaches and lays buried in the sand or coats the bottom of the gulf and everything that touches it.

If you go to Alaska and dig two inches into the beach you find the Exxon Valdez oil. It stinks.

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