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Edited by
Kings_Knight
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Why look ... ! Even that 'bastion of all things liberal' (a/k/a 'Massachusetts') is starting to act like 'The Most Unpopular State' (a/k/a 'Arizona'). Its' political candidates are calling for 'tough stances on illegal immigration' ... and they want to give (gasp!) the POLICE (imagine!) authority to ARREST people who are in the country ILLEGALLY ... ! Then they want the police to CHARGE THEM with IMMIGRATION violations ... oh, how the mighty have fallen ...
Looks like the back of them liberal Yankee necks is gettin' mighty RED these days ... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2010/05/27/candidates_urge_illegal_immigrant_crackdown/ Candidates urge illegal immigrant crackdown By Michael Levenson | Globe Staff / May 27, 2010 Staking out increasingly tough stances on illegal immigration, Republican gubernatorial candidate Charles D. Baker and independent rival Timothy P. Cahill said yesterday that they want to give police the authority to arrest people who are in the country illegally and charge them with immigration violations. As the two candidates battle for conservative voters, Baker said he would reinstate a controversial agreement with the federal government that Governor Mitt Romney signed in 2006 that deputized 30 specially trained State Police troopers to detain illegal immigrants. Cahill said he wants to go further, authorizing the State Police and all local officers to check the immigration status of suspects they encounter during regular police investigations. Immigration is currently the province of the federal government, though many critics say Washington has failed to stem the influx of illegal immigrants, and the issue has emerged as a flashpoint in the Massachusetts governor’s race. |
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Considering that most people have no issue with this part of the whole thing, you are not going to see a whole lot of objection here.
Arizona's law is racist because it states "suspects a person may be illegal" You cannot suspect a person is illegal without being racial or prejudice. This states that it will be done across the board, so no issue here. |
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Good for MASS. I lived in Phoenix and can promise you the people living there in the flood of ILLEGAL aliens (note I did not use the word imigrant) are very pleased at even a watered down version of "get these ****ing wetbacks outta my yard".
Mexicans don't want to come here and play by our rules or obey our laws...they make their own. In spite of them never paying a cent in taxes like I have to, they take work from citizens. Even here in LA they are working 18 dollar/hour oilfield jobs, construction, etc...not the "work that Americans will not do". Phoenix is the #2 kidnapping capital of the WORLD now, and 99% of those are by Mexican and Columbian gangs. Just TRY to go anywhere and order a hamburger in English in AZ. Good for Mass, good for AZ. My plan would be to shoot them on the border. |
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Edited by
MaxVelocity
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Thu 05/27/10 02:11 PM
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For the idiotic liberals who would rather trade in the security of our borders, which is the #1 JOB of the US Government, for political correctness...move to Mexico. I personally can spot an illegal just by walking past. Yep, they're brown. Who cares? They are here illegally and do not deserve the protection of the constitution...because they are CRIMINALS for even being here.
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Good for MASS. I lived in Phoenix and can promise you the people living there in the flood of ILLEGAL aliens (note I did not use the word imigrant) are very pleased at even a watered down version of "get these ****ing wetbacks outta my yard". Mexicans don't want to come here and play by our rules or obey our laws...they make their own. In spite of them never paying a cent in taxes like I have to, they take work from citizens. Even here in LA they are working 18 dollar/hour oilfield jobs, construction, etc...not the "work that Americans will not do". Phoenix is the #2 kidnapping capital of the WORLD now, and 99% of those are by Mexican and Columbian gangs. Just TRY to go anywhere and order a hamburger in English in AZ. Good for Mass, good for AZ. My plan would be to shoot them on the border. Not cool at all. |
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For the idiotic liberals who would rather trade in the security of our borders, which is the #1 JOB of the US Government, for political correctness...move to Mexico. I personally can spot an illegal just by walking past. Yep, they're brown. Who cares? They are here illegally and do not deserve the protection of the constitution...because they are CRIMINALS for even being here. Not a liberal but still not cool. We do not resort to racism when all else fails.... 
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Some friends just got back to Michigan after a couple weeks vacationing with their family in Arizona. Said the only ones up in arms and unhappy are the Mexicans and the illegal aliens - ALL of them. Everyone else is pleased as punch over it and hope it succeeds.
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I try to be cautious of claims involving 'all' or 'none'
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liberal - a person who favors a political philosophy of progress and reform and the protection of civil liberties
2. liberal - a person who favors an economic theory of laissez-faire and self-regulating markets Adj. 1. liberalliberal - showing or characterized by broad-mindedness; "a broad political stance"; "generous and broad sympathies"; "a liberal newspaper"; "tolerant of his opponent's opinions" large-minded, tolerant, broad broad-minded - inclined to respect views and beliefs that differ from your own; "a judge who is broad-minded but even-handed" 2. liberal - having political or social views favoring reform and progress left - of or belonging to the political or intellectual left 3. liberal - tolerant of change; not bound by authoritarianism, orthodoxy, or tradition |
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Edited by
heavenlyboy34
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Thu 05/27/10 02:34 PM
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liberal - a person who favors a political philosophy of progress and reform and the protection of civil liberties 2. liberal - a person who favors an economic theory of laissez-faire and self-regulating markets Adj. 1. liberalliberal - showing or characterized by broad-mindedness; "a broad political stance"; "generous and broad sympathies"; "a liberal newspaper"; "tolerant of his opponent's opinions" large-minded, tolerant, broad broad-minded - inclined to respect views and beliefs that differ from your own; "a judge who is broad-minded but even-handed" 2. liberal - having political or social views favoring reform and progress left - of or belonging to the political or intellectual left 3. liberal - tolerant of change; not bound by authoritarianism, orthodoxy, or tradition Those definitions refer to classical liberals. I've explained this before, and gave examples. Modern "liberals" don't hold those views (except when it is politically convenient to do so). Read "Liberalism" by Mises (written in 1929). |
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Considering that all illegal aliens are not brown, you would expect that brown folks feel a little put out for being targeted.
It makes sense. I feel put out and I am not brown but I definitely can see the problem with the racist stance being taken. |
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liberal - a person who favors a political philosophy of progress and reform and the protection of civil liberties 2. liberal - a person who favors an economic theory of laissez-faire and self-regulating markets Adj. 1. liberalliberal - showing or characterized by broad-mindedness; "a broad political stance"; "generous and broad sympathies"; "a liberal newspaper"; "tolerant of his opponent's opinions" large-minded, tolerant, broad broad-minded - inclined to respect views and beliefs that differ from your own; "a judge who is broad-minded but even-handed" 2. liberal - having political or social views favoring reform and progress left - of or belonging to the political or intellectual left 3. liberal - tolerant of change; not bound by authoritarianism, orthodoxy, or tradition NONE of these fit today's 'modern / progressive' who POSES as a 'liberal' ... |
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Edited by
Dragoness
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Thu 05/27/10 02:35 PM
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liberal - a person who favors a political philosophy of progress and reform and the protection of civil liberties 2. liberal - a person who favors an economic theory of laissez-faire and self-regulating markets Adj. 1. liberalliberal - showing or characterized by broad-mindedness; "a broad political stance"; "generous and broad sympathies"; "a liberal newspaper"; "tolerant of his opponent's opinions" large-minded, tolerant, broad broad-minded - inclined to respect views and beliefs that differ from your own; "a judge who is broad-minded but even-handed" 2. liberal - having political or social views favoring reform and progress left - of or belonging to the political or intellectual left 3. liberal - tolerant of change; not bound by authoritarianism, orthodoxy, or tradition Those definitions refer to classical liberals. I've explained this before, and gave examples. Modern "liberals" don't hold those views (except when it is politically convenient to do so). Are we talking all liberals? All liberals that you know? All liberals you have met? Just a prejudice statement with no bearing? What? |
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Edited by
Dragoness
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Thu 05/27/10 02:35 PM
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liberal - a person who favors a political philosophy of progress and reform and the protection of civil liberties 2. liberal - a person who favors an economic theory of laissez-faire and self-regulating markets Adj. 1. liberalliberal - showing or characterized by broad-mindedness; "a broad political stance"; "generous and broad sympathies"; "a liberal newspaper"; "tolerant of his opponent's opinions" large-minded, tolerant, broad broad-minded - inclined to respect views and beliefs that differ from your own; "a judge who is broad-minded but even-handed" 2. liberal - having political or social views favoring reform and progress left - of or belonging to the political or intellectual left 3. liberal - tolerant of change; not bound by authoritarianism, orthodoxy, or tradition NONE of these fit today's 'modern / progressive' who POSES as a 'liberal' ... Are we talking all liberals? All liberals that you know? All liberals you have met? Just a prejudice statement with no bearing? What? |
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Edited by
heavenlyboy34
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Thu 05/27/10 02:39 PM
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liberal - a person who favors a political philosophy of progress and reform and the protection of civil liberties 2. liberal - a person who favors an economic theory of laissez-faire and self-regulating markets Adj. 1. liberalliberal - showing or characterized by broad-mindedness; "a broad political stance"; "generous and broad sympathies"; "a liberal newspaper"; "tolerant of his opponent's opinions" large-minded, tolerant, broad broad-minded - inclined to respect views and beliefs that differ from your own; "a judge who is broad-minded but even-handed" 2. liberal - having political or social views favoring reform and progress left - of or belonging to the political or intellectual left 3. liberal - tolerant of change; not bound by authoritarianism, orthodoxy, or tradition Those definitions refer to classical liberals. I've explained this before, and gave examples. Modern "liberals" don't hold those views (except when it is politically convenient to do so). Are we talking all liberals? All liberals that you know? All liberals you have met? Just a prejudice statement with no bearing? What? I'm talking about the most widely accepted understanding of the word (as understood by philosophy and history). Again, I refer you to Mises' definitive book, "Liberalism". (Mises was known as "the Last Knight of Liberalism") |
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I'm talking about the most widely accepted understanding of the word (as understood by philosophy and history). Again, I refer you to Mises' definitive book, "Liberalism". (Mises was known as "the Last Knight of Liberalism") You've no doubt noticed there's a serious disconnect at work here when it comes to understanding the meaning of the term 'liberal' in a historic / political / philosophical context as opposed to today's 'do anything you wanna' commonly-accepted definition - which is interchangeable with the definition of 'progressive' and / or 'socialist' ... |
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liberal - a person who favors a political philosophy of progress and reform and the protection of civil liberties 2. liberal - a person who favors an economic theory of laissez-faire and self-regulating markets Adj. 1. liberalliberal - showing or characterized by broad-mindedness; "a broad political stance"; "generous and broad sympathies"; "a liberal newspaper"; "tolerant of his opponent's opinions" large-minded, tolerant, broad broad-minded - inclined to respect views and beliefs that differ from your own; "a judge who is broad-minded but even-handed" 2. liberal - having political or social views favoring reform and progress left - of or belonging to the political or intellectual left 3. liberal - tolerant of change; not bound by authoritarianism, orthodoxy, or tradition Those definitions refer to classical liberals. I've explained this before, and gave examples. Modern "liberals" don't hold those views (except when it is politically convenient to do so). Are we talking all liberals? All liberals that you know? All liberals you have met? Just a prejudice statement with no bearing? What? I'm talking about the most widely accepted understanding of the word (as understood by philosophy and history). Again, I refer you to Mises' definitive book, "Liberalism". (Mises was known as "the Last Knight of Liberalism") You can refer me to every book written and it will still be your folly. You cannot know every liberal and their personal stance. You can assume based on a book but you know what they say about a ss u ming, right? |
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I'm talking about the most widely accepted understanding of the word (as understood by philosophy and history). Again, I refer you to Mises' definitive book, "Liberalism". (Mises was known as "the Last Knight of Liberalism") You've no doubt noticed there's a serious disconnect at work here when it comes to understanding the meaning of the term 'liberal' in a historic / political / philosophical context as opposed to today's 'do anything you wanna' commonly-accepted definition - which is interchangeable with the definition of 'progressive' and / or 'socialist' ... Not true. |
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Be SPECIFIC.
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liberal - a person who favors a political philosophy of progress and reform and the protection of civil liberties This a current definition of liberal from a current dictionary. |
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