Topic: Farm Boys solution to the Gulf Coast spill
Sluggo's photo
Wed 05/19/10 06:32 AM
Farm Boys got the spill solution all finger'd out!
~ 7 min video that explains and shows in a
"Ya'll ain't gonna believe this ****" sorta way!


IT CAN"T POSSIBLY BE THIS EASY------- CAN IT?
The politicians and others will probably want to spend
$Millions and more for a panel of engineers to study
the problem, and then most likely won't find the simple
solution these good ole 'southern boys have....

take a look!

http://www.wimp.com/solutionoil

kc0003's photo
Wed 05/19/10 06:44 AM

Farm Boys got the spill solution all finger'd out!
~ 7 min video that explains and shows in a
"Ya'll ain't gonna believe this ****" sorta way!


IT CAN"T POSSIBLY BE THIS EASY------- CAN IT?
The politicians and others will probably want to spend
$Millions and more for a panel of engineers to study
the problem, and then most likely won't find the simple
solution these good ole 'southern boys have....

take a look!

http://www.wimp.com/solutionoil

lilangel2's photo
Wed 05/19/10 07:53 AM
This is AWESOME! I love simply solutions to major problems...I think this will actually work...and relatively cheap...and eco safe...safer than adding chemicals! I hope they let them do it.drinker

no photo
Wed 05/19/10 09:12 AM
I'm passing this on, if you don't mind...

newarkjw's photo
Wed 05/19/10 09:21 AM
That is freaking awesome..........smokin

68chevy's photo
Wed 05/19/10 10:28 AM
This looks promising, but fresh water is pure H2O (two parts hydrogen and one part oxygen) I assume that is what they are using in the bowls. Salt water is H2O with the particles of rock or "salts" floating in it.
Sea water has a higher density than freshwater. Density is the ratio of the water's mass to its volume. Sea water is higher because it has more mass due to the salts. Objects float better in sea water because of its density. So in theory the hay would still float.
The salinity of sea water causes it to have a higher viscosity than fresh water causing convection currents in salt water to be slower, so this simple solution might work and is really worth looking into, however more testing most likely will need to be done. JMO.

TxsGal3333's photo
Wed 05/19/10 11:26 AM
The way I see it they don't have time to do more testing.... This is and awesome solution not only that but would help the farmers extremly.............. Best solution I have heard since it is still they seem to be not able to stop it or find a solution that take care of it faster...........:thumbsup:

AndyBgood's photo
Wed 05/19/10 11:27 AM
Oddly this is used for remediation of oil spills in California! We have mats of this stuff floating in Los Angeles harbor. I can show you where floats of this stuff are used here in Los Angeles to contain refinery spills. Simple solutions like this do work a lot better than what is being done now! Sea water does not have 'rocks' floating in it as much as the salt is in solution with the water. Although the chemistry is slightly different the straw will work just the same. Salt and oil DO NOT REACT UNLESS YOU ADD ACIDS TO FORCE A REACTION TO OCCUR! Basic Chemistry.

The problem is that all crude is not alike! There is what is being referred to as the Evil Blob. It is a plume underwater, DEEP under water that is about two miles across and ten miles wide of oil that has yet to even come to the surface at all. The straw will not work there and the siphon method will take too long to gulp it all up. I would recommend using a Hiroshima Class (IN POWER, Not antiquity OLD BOMBS ARE VERY DIRTY!) nuclear weapon to blast the blob since it is the only thing that is big enough to do the job once and for all. They still have to cap the well first! Still for coastal remediation these guys have the right idea! Huge floating "ropes" of this stretched out in huge rafts can collect a lot of the surface oil and can be burned for fuel. It would be a lot cheaper than what they are trying to do now!

Seriously do you have any clue what is in the dispersant they use and what is left over afterwords??? Let us begin with Bacteria is not the only thing they use. They also use something similar to dish detergent. Want to talk about making something that fouls the environment poisonous? Want to kill a tank full of fish? Take a hundred gallon fish tank and add ONE drop of dish soap in it and you will have a 100 gallons of death. Just ONE drop. And the scale of this disaster how bad do you think it will be?? Only 19% of the Gulf of Mexico's fishing grounds will be affected??? Tee hee. Try higher, MUCH MUCH higher! We are going to loose more than a third of our coastal fishing to his disaster.

no photo
Wed 05/19/10 01:08 PM
This would work. The oil is what's known as 'light sweet crude' - you know, the kind we IMPORT from Saudi Arabia ... or Iran ... This solution is what's known as 'elegant'. It's cheap, simple, and effective. I'd much rather see this than dispersants. Who's up for a bet that they'll opt for the dispersant solution to reward a campaign contributor rather than use something that works ... ?

68chevy's photo
Wed 05/19/10 01:13 PM
The area of the spill now exceeds 6,000 sq. miles and more than 11 million gallons of oil are in the sea.
I know there are some ways to use hay to fight oil spills, but I just don't think hay is the answer in this case....not something of this magnitude.

Peccy's photo
Wed 05/19/10 01:14 PM
Of course they will, this is America. Can you say corrupt?

Emily1990's photo
Wed 05/19/10 02:47 PM
very impressive, lets hope this dea gets spread around and used, last thing we need is to wipe out an entire ecosystem with chemicals thanks to current methods

EquusDancer's photo
Wed 05/19/10 05:50 PM
Okay, can't pull the video on dial-up. However, if this is about straw, it creates a whole other problem.

How many horses, and cattle will be dumped because the price of hay and straw has shot up through the roof, because it's been taken away from those who feed it?

A round bale cost us $90.00 per bale (and that was CHEAP!!!) this winter. Two round bales a week. And we were sparing, due to the cost. Our hay was being brought in from locally, originally, and as far away as California, because there's been several years of shortages. Some people were paying upwards of $130.00 a bale. Regular square bales were anywhere from $10-15.00 per bale. EVERYONE is hurting from it.

So, if this straw and hay gets pulled to that oil spill, I'd safely say that will double the cost, easily. People are lazy, they aren't always going to take their cattle and horses to the slaughterhouse. They're going to just turn them loose. They've been doing that for the past couple of years, and it's been rough. Animals are starving to death now, or are injured and killed, as it is. What's going to happen with this?!

68chevy's photo
Wed 05/19/10 06:02 PM
Edited by 68chevy on Wed 05/19/10 06:13 PM
Don't think you will have anything to worry about, it would only take maybe a few million tons of hay to absorb 11 million gallons of oil. No problem.....drinker Yes I was being sarcastic. Don't think it will happen.
This is from Coast Guard Senior Chief Petty Officer Steve Carleton, who helps handle the flood of social media responses.
"You name it, it's been suggested. At least 15 times a day we get something about exploding the well — bombs, nuclear bombs, torpedoes," He said he receives about a dozen emails a day with a link to a YouTube video of a man using hay to sop up oil.

Sluggo's photo
Wed 05/19/10 06:22 PM
ED, if you watch the Video the two Farmers actually talked about how easy it would be to come up with that much Blue Grass Hay & Straw Hay: Since they brought up ways outside the Box it shouldn't have the impact you brought up.


I can't help but think about the idiots at Republican Party that sent the Flyer to my house a few weeks ago that were pushing the expansion of off shore oil drilling. Thank God I'm not stupid enough to Blindly vote party lines...

EquusDancer's photo
Wed 05/19/10 07:56 PM
Sluggo, I did say I couldn't pull the video due to dial-up. That's why I was verifying that it related to the whole straw thing.

This becomes a matter of money. The farmers will give it to the highest bidder and in this case it would be the government. That means the farmers and people who can't afford to buy it will have starving animals if the government takes it all.

Hay is moved all over this country especially with drought conditions. People have their personal preferences on what they feed, but its not localized. California to Texas, Montana to Tennessee, Arkansas to New York, all types of hay goes all over the country. But if its not there to be bought the animals starve. If the price skyrockets the animals starve. This is what I see as a problem.

Sluggo's photo
Thu 05/20/10 04:57 AM
ED Yep, that's why I said "if you watch the Video"
Again, the two Farmers actually talked about how easy it would be to come up with that much Blue Grass Hay & Straw Hay: Since they brought up ways outside the Box it shouldn't have the impact you brought up.

Additionally, I'm pretty sure that 200 Mile x 300 Mile patch of Oil would wipe out more animals than any of us can imagine if it were left unattended (including possible unattended to cattle & horses left to starve, should that happen)