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Topic: Looked down on.
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Fri 05/14/10 12:53 PM

this thread is still going? awsome!! lol


Thats what I was thinking.lol.

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Fri 05/14/10 01:14 PM

The main thing her is we support Red in what ever she wants to do cause she is a VERY precious lady on here and we will be her for her no matter what!!

Anyone precious deserves to be cherished and protected, even if that requires cold truths, not coddled and condescended to as they walk into potentially dangerous situations.

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Fri 05/14/10 01:17 PM
"Evil can only exist when good men do nothing"
forget who said it, but find it has alot of truth in it

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Fri 05/14/10 02:19 PM


The main thing her is we support Red in what ever she wants to do cause she is a VERY precious lady on here and we will be her for her no matter what!!

Anyone precious deserves to be cherished and protected, even if that requires cold truths, not coddled and condescended to as they walk into potentially dangerous situations.


Well said newbie drinks

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Fri 05/14/10 02:23 PM
And I agree!! Ihave told here my opinion and so has everyone else. It is her decision to do after reading what we have all said, may God Bless her and Protect her!!

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Fri 05/14/10 02:37 PM



The main thing her is we support Red in what ever she wants to do cause she is a VERY precious lady on here and we will be her for her no matter what!!

Anyone precious deserves to be cherished and protected, even if that requires cold truths, not coddled and condescended to as they walk into potentially dangerous situations.


Well said newbie drinks

Thanks Missy
Starting to get that stranger in a strange land feeling when you saved me.
flowerforyou

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Fri 05/14/10 07:59 PM
Edited by my_tee_mouse on Fri 05/14/10 08:01 PM
He told me straight out what happen. The gun's safety was off an he didnt know till after it went off. His finger slipped an hit the trigger. You may not believe it but I do. He never lied to me before.


And you verified this through witnesses, so you know this is exactly how it happened?

What kind of gun was this, pray tell?

How old was he when this happened?

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The main thing her is we support Red in what ever she wants to do cause she is a VERY precious lady on here and we will be her for her no matter what!!

Anyone precious deserves to be cherished and protected, even if that requires cold truths, not coddled and condescended to as they walk into potentially dangerous situations.

Yupyup.

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Sat 05/15/10 07:50 PM
frustrated really this is still going? I am dating someone else! He is not in prison that's why my status changed, so get your story straight before you judge. I do not agree with what he did but I do not judge people on their past. He was 17 when this happen, I am not trying to stick up for anyone! He told me it was a hand gun..not sure what type. He knows how I feel about all of this an I do not really trust him. Yes I did go see him an plan to again and again, nothing wrong with it! He is a friend of mine. Think what you want, I understand the concern and the cold hard truth but I know what I wanna do an how I feel about all of this.

What if it was your loved one who did this? Would you feel differ about it?

Yes I am young..so what?

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Sun 05/16/10 07:53 AM

frustrated really this is still going? I am dating someone else! He is not in prison that's why my status changed, so get your story straight before you judge. I do not agree with what he did but I do not judge people on their past. He was 17 when this happen, I am not trying to stick up for anyone! He told me it was a hand gun..not sure what type. He knows how I feel about all of this an I do not really trust him. Yes I did go see him an plan to again and again, nothing wrong with it! He is a friend of mine. Think what you want, I understand the concern and the cold hard truth but I know what I wanna do an how I feel about all of this.

What if it was your loved one who did this? Would you feel differ about it?

Yes I am young..so what?


Nice to see you return to your own thread. Do not mistake anything said here as a personal attack, we all have opinions and after all, you are the one who opened this to the scrutiny of others. As I suggested before, when we invite things to our lives, we cannot be surprised when they show up.

I am glad to hear that you are seeing someone else and not the person in question. Your absence and the deletion of your account is what lead to the speculation. I brought it up as more of a question than a fact, but you were not around to clarify. (Incidentally, speculation and judging are two different things.) I am sure it is not just me who is pleased to learn it is not so.

To your question: “What if it was your loved one who did this? Would you feel differ about it?”...all I can say is that you are not comparing apples to apples. You had no prior relationship with this guy; a loved one who entered this situation would change the entire equation. This is not what you are dealing with and not within the parameters of your own decision.

I cannot help but ask what is it about the word “judge” that you and others are so afraid of? I have seen it said here “I don’t judge people on their past.” Tell me something, when does the past turn into the present? When is it ok to start judging? It seems a capricious line to me...one in which you cannot draw because you were well aware of this person’s past the moment you clicked on the web site that took you to his profile. See…you made the decision to overlook his resent past, but that doesn’t change the fact that you had to make a judgment about it.

What was it that Getty Lee sang? “If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice.”

Entire civilizations are judged by their history. Governments are judged by their history. An artist is judged by the body of work he presents. Sports figures are judged by their career achievements. This is simply the best way to get an accurate portrayal of who someone is and what they represent.

We are our histories. It is what makes us, us. All of the decisions you have made from the time you were 5 or 6 have led you to what and where you are right now. All of the good times you have experienced and rejoiced in. All of the hardships you have endured and/or overcome, all of the people that you have met, the places you have been. It’s all a part of who you are. To ignore any part of it would be to not see you for who you are. Besides friendships are forged through time and time = history, history = past. It is all tied together...woven if you will, into the very fabric of our being. To judge someone on anything less than the whole person is both foolish and naïve and as I have said, in this case and for the argument of only "judging" in the present, it is self serving.

You said at one point, that you believe him (and his story) and now you state that you do not trust him. Well, if you do not trust him now, may I ask why? (Not sure if you care to answer that, just thought I might ask.) And if you do not trust him, why continue?



You have chosen your path and your journey has begun, all anyone can do is wish you luck and safe passage. Please be careful and look after you. You are the only one who can.

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Sun 05/16/10 08:25 AM
Edited by redhead44613 on Sun 05/16/10 08:27 AM
I never trusted him from the start an he knows that. Im not saying I believe his story about what happen, yes when you bring a gun into anything you have to accept that it could turn ugly really fast. Like I have said before I do not agree with what he did I am not sticking up for him about it.

I am just sick of people calling me stupid an foolish bout all of this, all I am doing to reaching out to someone through hard time. I am also writing to a solider, which is going through a harder time then the prisoner.

I did judge him a little when I chose to write. If he goes back to his old ways then I would stop talking to him an write it off, but if he steps up an becomes a better person then he will be a good friend of mine. Right now he is a good friend till I am proven wrong.

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Sun 05/16/10 10:22 AM
red...i am not calling you stupid

you are going to do what you feel you have to
i just hope you do it without blinders.

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Sun 05/16/10 11:50 AM
I didn't say you called me stupid. Other people have. Believe me I am not going to do anything dumb. He will not get anything but letters from me.

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Sun 05/16/10 11:53 AM
U know I and all of us just care about U!!! You know what U need to do to make U happy and I will be for U no matter what!!flowerforyou

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Sun 05/16/10 01:00 PM

U know I and all of us just care about U!!! You know what U need to do to make U happy and I will be for U no matter what!!flowerforyou
I understand that.

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Mon 05/17/10 09:53 AM
I may have took somethings out of context and am glad to hear you don't ride the short bus

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Mon 05/17/10 11:59 PM
Red, having just reread this whole thread, the only time the word 'stupid' came up is when you were descrbing this man when he was 'young and stupid'. No one has called you that, and I don't think anyone intended that. Just be safe in any decision you make, follow your gut..(instincts) and you'll be fine.

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