You're most certainly welcome. I know I'll take a lot of heat for saying it, but hey, compared to what I was through a few years ago, the guff is a proverbial walk in the park by comparison.

I feel the same way you do-- if we are to call ourselves a civilized society, we are morally obligated to not allow people in great pain or peril to die in the street. Already in New York City, one of the hospitals that often treated the indigent had to shut down. This bill at least tried to address those problems despite all its warts. Imperfect though it may be, it's at least a first step. To bad some have to be dragged kicking and screaming from the Wild Wild West into the 21st century.

-Kerry O.

While I understand the need for everyone to have health care, why should the burden fall upon small businesses that can ill afford the 10% tax per hour per employee? The company I work for can not afford heath care for its workers (myself included), and we surly cannot afford the 10% increase in wages, so looks like another company will shut its doors due to an ill thought out program that the majority of Americans opposed. Oh well at least the rest of you will be paying for my insurance soon.

On a side note, why does it always seem when someone with a republican slant expresses themselves, they get slaughtered by the press and public, but when a democrats misdeeds are made public they seem to not get the same coverage?

personal perception,, most democrats feel they are unequally attacked and so do most republicans,, when it is probably pretty close to equal on both sides...

It is socialism, plain and simple.

socialism 1 : any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of GOODS,,,,

capitalism : an economic system characterized by private or corporate ownership of capital goods, by investments that are determined by private decision, and by prices, production, and the distribution of goods that are determined mainly by competition in a free market



the corporations will still sell insurance and goods , people will still make private investments, and prices will still be determined by competition(the price of homes and theater tickets are a great and recent example)...

this is still nowhere NEAR a socialist economy

I've said the same repeatedly, it was most often ignored. The unfortunate part is that few seem to acknowledge that we (as in us, the little guys) have always paid for the uninsured. It is a fact that many arguing about this prefer to ignore, as well.

Amen. This 'socialism' bull is just the same old saber rattling crap Nixon used to pull to get elected.

The modern corporation is far more like a collective than anything else in our economy. You hear it all the time at work: sacrifice for the good of the company.

-Kerry O.

Because Liberal's control the MSM.

Just who should the burden fall on, then? should the Americans who have insurance be forced to keep carrying those who don't?

Every time they raise the minimum wage, it's been the same old 'we'll have to close our doors' poor mouth routine. Yet, it hardly ever happens, and when it does, it's usually because of poor management.

Every year where I work the insurance increases and for the last two years we took cuts in pay even as we paid the increased premiums out of our pockets. A lot of the people there won't carry it because they say it costs too much. Yet, they can always find money for cigarettes, beer, drugs and movies. Or their SUV payments. And some of them are in poor health because of their stupid habits and brag all the time about stiffing the hospitals for ER treatment.

Republicans are always big on personal responsibility and handouts. They say when you keep giving something away for free, you'll just have more of the same. Well, where are they on this issue, then, where you'd think they'd want to help people at least pay something in to the insurance pool, so an ever-shrinking base doesn't end up carrying everyone.

But no. They'd rather pander for political advantage.

It's all a shell game with them.


-Kerry O.

Protip:
Fox is hard right.
MSNBC is a semi-hard left.
CNN likes to ride the fence, and fall to the left.

With Fox in relation to everyone else, sure, they are liberal. But only because Fox seems to want to return us to the fields to be serfs for our glorious corporate masters.

CNN rides the fence?