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Topic: Business reacts to Obamacare
Dragoness's photo
Thu 04/01/10 10:41 PM

You don't have to buy the insurance on the health care either, there will be a penalty on your tax return if you do not.

People have choices across the board. Don't pay your taxes if you have a problem with them.

There is a consequence for every action we do, good or bad.

And the correct answer is don't buy car insurance and pay the penalty for not having insurance. They still have the choice to drive if they so choose. They will have to pay the penalty for it.


But you are missing the point.

Don't buy car insurance and decide to drive anyway, THEN you are breaking the law and pay the consequences. However, you are making the CHOICE to break the law by doing so. You don't pay a fine on your tax return if you don't buy car insurance.

I understand that there are consequences for our actions. I've never stated, nor will I ever state, otherwise.

By the way, you ONLY pay a " penalty " for not having the car insurance if you get caught at it.

With the Health Care Bill...you have no choice because there really isn't a way to duck it.


And the penalty is only for those who can afford insurance but refuse to buy it too, not everyone. And the penalty is the same price as a low priced health insurance would be for a year. Since the uninsured may have to use a hospital unexpectedly and make a bill.

This won't effect the poor anyway.

Dragoness's photo
Thu 04/01/10 10:42 PM
I am off to bed. Good night.

JustAGuy2112's photo
Thu 04/01/10 10:46 PM


You don't have to buy the insurance on the health care either, there will be a penalty on your tax return if you do not.

People have choices across the board. Don't pay your taxes if you have a problem with them.

There is a consequence for every action we do, good or bad.

And the correct answer is don't buy car insurance and pay the penalty for not having insurance. They still have the choice to drive if they so choose. They will have to pay the penalty for it.


But you are missing the point.

Don't buy car insurance and decide to drive anyway, THEN you are breaking the law and pay the consequences. However, you are making the CHOICE to break the law by doing so. You don't pay a fine on your tax return if you don't buy car insurance.

I understand that there are consequences for our actions. I've never stated, nor will I ever state, otherwise.

By the way, you ONLY pay a " penalty " for not having the car insurance if you get caught at it.

With the Health Care Bill...you have no choice because there really isn't a way to duck it.


And the penalty is only for those who can afford insurance but refuse to buy it too, not everyone. And the penalty is the same price as a low priced health insurance would be for a year. Since the uninsured may have to use a hospital unexpectedly and make a bill.

This won't effect the poor anyway.


The last part of that statement is completely inaccurate. I have shopped for health coverage and even the cheapest ( which doesn't cover a DAMN thing and caps you at around 50k for the lifetime of the policy ) is WELL more expensive than the fines. I can't get insurance for less than $140 dollars a month. That is WELL beyond what the fines would cost me.

For Insurance to be cheaper than the fines, you would have to buy coverage that costs right around 50 bucks a month. There isn't a company around that offers insurance THAT cheap and covers anything other than a common cold....if that much.

JustAGuy2112's photo
Thu 04/01/10 10:47 PM

I am off to bed. Good night.


Sleep well. :-)

KerryO's photo
Fri 04/02/10 02:01 AM



If it was only more access, the issue wouldn't be NEARLY as hot as it is.

The fact is, this government is, indeed, intruding on our lives by forcing us to buy something.


If everyone thought the way people who refuse to buy insurance thought, they wouldn't have a life to intrude upon if they got terribly ill. Because they are forcing other people to pay the bills they can't and if those people were to get together and force the government to rescind the laws that mandate a hospital to treat them regardless of means, they'd be turned away to die in the street.

Is that the kind of dog-eat-dog nation you want to live in? Because without some kind of solution, that's where we're headed if the bullheads get their way.

Conservatives like to wax ad nauseum about personal responsibility-- well, one place it starts is right here with the healthcare problem.


-Kerry O.

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