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Topic: What do you think???
Quietman_2009's photo
Sun 03/14/10 07:33 AM
if someone were to tell me that I couldn't achieve something by the merit of my ability but that they were gonna give to me anyway because of my race I would be kinda insulted

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Sun 03/14/10 09:16 AM
'Affirmative Action' is as much an oxymoron as 'Wonder Bread' - it's neither. And, picking up Quietman's concept, we are obviously such a nation of quiescent sheeple that people who are so unqualified by training to do a particular job need to rely on the power of the courts to force an employer to hire them to do that job NOT because of their 'qualifications' but because of the color of their skin. THAT, folks, is RACISM. But like good little sheeple, any sense of outrage against this advancement of the unqualified over the ones who can actually do the job simply because of race can't effectively be protested. Why? Because when the protest is made, 'political correctness' tells us that the people who can see through this garbage are 'racists'. Welcome to Alice's world ...

delilady's photo
Sun 03/14/10 09:29 AM
My son experienced this when he applied to the Graduate Program in Sports Management at his University.
Both he and his friend applied to the same graduate program. Both were on the Men's Basketball team, business majors and had about the same GPA. My son had worked with the NCAA and was the first student rep from his university to be the conference rep on the national level and he was elected to the committee to rep all of Division II at the National level.

His friend was automatically accepted into the graduate program without any roadblocks. My son, who got a higher score on the GRE exam was told that the score and his GPA were not high enough to enter the program and that he would enter on a probationary acceptance. Because he and his friend talked and he had knowledge of the situation that was taking place he was entered with full acceptance and able to get a GA position.

He was very discouraged at the system. He would have had no problem if all things being equal they had chosen his friend but he felt that he was facing reverse discrimination because of his race

Etrain's photo
Sun 03/14/10 09:30 AM

if someone were to tell me that I couldn't achieve something by the merit of my ability but that they were gonna give to me anyway because of my race I would be kinda insulted

I have to agree with this statementdrinker

msharmony's photo
Sun 03/14/10 10:01 AM
Edited by msharmony on Sun 03/14/10 10:30 AM
Discrimination against someone for any reason RACE< GENDER< SOCIAL STATUS,, is illegal based upon anti discrimination laws. I would also be offended if I got, or was denied a position SOLELY Because of my race, and I would take it to court if I could PROVE it because it is illegal.

AA , on the other hand, involves policies that ensure that QUALIFIED applicants are not discriminated against based upon gender, sex, etc,,, which covers the front end of employment, the fact that unions and job security are nearly a thing of the past and in MOST cases employers hold the right to terminate you for most any reason they can come up with,,,makes it pretty certain that noone unqualified is going to KEEP their job.


'Selection among qualified and unqualified candidates. The strongest form of preferential selection occurs when unqualified female or minority members are chosen over other candidates who are qualified. Although affirmative action is sometimes mistakenly equated with this form of preferential treatment, federal regulations explicitly prohibit affirmative action programs in which unqualified or unneeded employees are hired '(Bureau of National Affairs, 1979).



It is a myth that AA encourages anyone who is just not qualified to be employed SIMPLY due to race. I would oppose this practice as well. What is historically much more common , however, is that certain groups are completely overlooked for positions REGARDLESS of their qualifications to the point where they havent even had the OPPORTUNITY to compete for said jobs. AA covers a range of policies, and I believe the MAJORITY of these policies are still needed.

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