Okay, am in a bad mood, yet have always thought this.
They get up there on stage, congradulate themselves for doing such a 'Excellent job', falling all over their reviews of each other- when it's totally apparent the only thing they do is provide entertainment- and get paid WAY too much money to do so.
What is wrong with this planet???!!!????? Seriously. From politics to fun, we are so out of wack!

I don't have a problem with it... They have talent, you or I couldn't do what they do... they get paid based on what "we as a society" make them worth b/c we pay to see their movies... the media plays them up... If we didnt' have the entertainment industry we'd probably have a very boring world... Mind you I'm not into entertainment gossip and all of that, but I do respect their talent... When they get up there I've never seen them say "oh I'm so great, yay me!"... They always thank those that have helped them get where they are... I give respect and appreciation to ALL JOBS.... Each job, each thing that is done to keep things turning, moving, going is necessary and those that do those jobs deserve respect and appreciation.. That goes for garbage people, table busers, wait staff, nurses, teachers, dr's, on and on and on and on...

"I want to thank the academy for this prestigious award. I also want to thank all the little people who worship me and make out with my posters. This award is for you!"


I actually got more respect for them than atheletes that make millions, wear tights, slap each other on the @ss and seriously use the term "Play" as thier actual job description.

OMG LOL I was totally thinking this the other day; and politics...blah. The way we vote for people in office always reminds me of stupid high school except in the adult world, they dig up any kind of **** they can on each other to say they're insufficient for the job. The world is insane and superficial and self-centered.

I don't think either are worth the millions of dollars they get for a movie or a game. But, they're both jobs, so I can respect that they do those jobs well.

i hardly ever watch movies so i couldn't even tell you who is (was) up for an award or whether or not someone was grossly overpaid for their role.

i just like watching them all walk the red carpet and see what they're wearing.

Well said

Apologies but don't beleive that for a instant. Until 150 years ago, we entertained oursleves with prose, literature, and art. The talent you speak of is not talent. Imitation, chamaleon. So they can imposter another? Express written word into verbal?
The money atheletes and actors get paid, then what little they give back for what they have been given is pretty sorry.

Well Shasta, that is your opinion, which you're entitled to... Mine is different and I stand by what I said... I'd much rather live in the here and now than 150 yrs ago.. I like what we have now, I like that "reading" isn't my ONLY entertainment... I enjoy watching movies and as I said I give due respect for their entertainment... Even sports... If you can do it better then by all means judge, if you can't then really, it's not your place... I can admit when something is not my forte and give respect to those that are capable of it...

150 years ago Elizabeth Blackwell became the first American woman to gain admission into medical school. So using your reasoning should we now get rid of all women from the medical profession, just because of how things were 150 years ago? Seriously, what they did 150 years ago has NOTHING to do with today, other than it being a building block. See below.


Who has talent is subjective.

exactly... opinions that is all.. they are all different and one isn't any more important than the other...

150 years ago, people appeared to take things more seriously. Even writing. There was no televison, media as we know now. Newspapers..yes but no way to check the facts. The 'acting' seems to have gotten worse, actually all they are trying to do is imitate real life. Is that such something that should be awarded? They live in mansions, oblivious of what most go through. Seeing the first 5 minutes of the "Awards" makes you realize how superficial things are with them. How much was that Oscar De? whats his name dress that you are wearing? You can't really beleive that all that money spent on a evening gown doesn't matter and that with all thats going on otherwise matters little?
It just goes to show that it's all numbers on peices of paper. What it says on your account makes your life?

We base all our money accounts on numbers on peices of rock, 'gold' or paper we print up. You have more numbers than me written in your book, or some say that others are more important than others because of the way they look or the way they present themselves.
When it all comes down to it, beleiving it is sort of fooling ourselves. To think we convinced ourselves that someone is more important or a peice of rock in a ring is worth more a house is really kind of silly, thinking that it is worth more than actually substance.

This could have been said by anyone throughout history...


Yes.


Opinion isn't fact.



Everything is worth what society deems it's worth. That's why advertising hypes their clients products...

If you don't think something is worth what is being asked for it, then don't buy it. Pretty simple concept, but don't keep other people from buying it if they want to.

Well said Ars.... I'm not into "self-righteous" opinions...

Thank you. Me neither

Yes, by all means... buy into it. Very simple. You get what you pay for. Hasn't anyone gotten tired of being sold commercialism yet? , people being better than you by what media tells society? No one is 'keeping' anyone from anything...yet all the materialism...it really is kind of sad that this is what we're still being tried to be sold. Yes, it's entertaining..to a degree, after some point..it gets a little insulting, patronizing. But then, we're all on different wavelengths. What ever works for you is your life.

I don't let the media make me feel any particular way about myself... What I think and feel is up to me.. I have enough common sense to make decisions for myself... 150 yrs ago we wouldn't have been able to vote let alone have much of a voice or make decisions at all, so I'll still go with what we have...

I respect what you are saying but putting it into perspective, people are not all entertained the same way. I dont find it any more enlightened to be entertained by reading about life from a book than it is to listen to someone sing about life in a song or watch someone 'imitate' life in a piece of art or acting. I am glad we have more options to be entertained with, I just think we need to balance entertainment with knowledge and charity.

About charity, we have NO idea what other people(entertainers,actors, and athletes included) give to others if we arent holding their pocketbook so I always think that its dangerous to assume people arent giving back.

As to incomes being made, I feel it is more than fair. I think of these jobs in large part as commission jobs and not set salary, nine to five type jobs. The actors,athletes,or entertainers dont really have a regular and set schedule or salary but instead are getting a mere FRACTION of the income they are bringing their employers. When or if they stop making money for their employer, they find themself unemployed.

I'd remind that theater has been a source of entertainment just as long as books have, actually longer!

In fact, theater precedes the ability for ALL to enjoy it as medium.

Long before books were available to the masses, even the poor could go to the ancient amphitheaters and view Thespians acting out an otherwise unavailable manuscript.

The manuscripts would have even been stone tablets at some points in history.

Theater precedes even ancient Greece!

I am a devoted cinephile and musical~audiophile on an epic scale.

The pay is as the market bears, society really did set up that disproportionate cheque amount.

When I shop at Whole Foods I pay more, and I'm willing to (though at times begrudgingly).

The business modelers sets their own guidelines as regards the profit margin they require to keep the doors open.

I want the doors OPEN, so pay the price that makes that possible. Competition is the only thing that somewhat regulates the prices.

In film and music, there are those stand~outs that are such one of a kinds, there is no competition.

Thus, they claim the highest bid, similar to winning an auction.

They get the lucky golden ticket.

Many in music and acting are the starving artistes of lore.

As for me, outside of the pay scale diversity convo?

I am certain that Shasta's perspective is coming through a lil harsh, due to the fact that she works w/ the homeless and witnesses the heart rending inequity of destitute poverty on a daily basis.

I'm sure she carries those souls w/ her as heavy burden, and is set each time she sees wealth in excess.

She even commented in a thread running simultaneous to this one, that she is quite blue, and her own lack of funds is factoring into her very down heartedness.

(((((((Shasta, Joy, William, Ms Harmony))))))) ... ... We are so blessed!

Let's put on some great music on the sound system in William's car, go catch a great film, grab a picnic at Whole Foods, then spend the evening serving dinner at the Shelter for the Homeless ...


Edit: To invite Ms Harmony ... You weren't in the thread when I began typing.

That's right. Everyone is free to decide what THEY find entertaining. There were many movies that were big sellers that I would never go and see, even if they were free. The media has/had no vote in this. As mentioned earlier, it's all about having a little bit of common sense. Having some back bone and not being lead around like one of the sheep in the crowd. For example, I do not watch sports. For a guy I guess that's unusual, but I would much rather spend time with someone I care about than to be glued to a TV, watching a game that makes no difference in the world. My time is valuable to me and I choose not to waste it on sports, but if someone else gets a rise from sports then they should be able to have at it... Everyone is free to decide what they find entertaining



LOL Sounds like a great time