Topic: IRS worker killed in crash was a loyal family man
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Sat 02/20/10 09:07 PM
AUSTIN, Texas – The family of a longtime Internal Revenue Service employee killed when a pilot harboring an anti-IRS grudge flew his plane into his office remembered the Vietnam veteran Saturday as devoted family man who likely would have tried to save his co-workers from the burning building before escaping himself.
"He was full of life. Probably the best teacher I had in my life," Ken Hunter said of his father, 68-year-old Vernon Hunter. The elder Hunter had been missing and presumed dead since Thursday, when software engineer Andrew Joseph Stack III slammed his plane into the Austin building where Hunter worked as a manager for the IRS.
The crash caused a large fireball that destroyed much of the hulking glass building where Hunter's wife, Valerie, also worked as an IRS employee. She was not wounded.
Hunter was the only person besides Stack to die in the attack, and authorities officially notified the family they had identified his remains on Saturday, said Larry McDonald, a family friend and deacon at their church.
Stack, 53, apparently targeted the lower floors of the building that houses IRS offices after lashing out at the agency in a ranting manifesto posted on a Web site shortly before Thursday's attack. In the note, Stack claimed the government and the its tax code robbed him of his savings and ruined his career.
Standing outside Hunter's house in the Austin suburb of Cedar Park, Ken Hunter said he wanted to tell people about his father after hearing about Stack's life and his anti-tax crusade. He was alarmed by comments from Stack's friends who said he was a good person and Internet postings calling the pilot a hero.
"People say (Stack) is a patriot. What's he a patriot for? He hasn't served the country. My dad did two tours of Vietnam and this guy is going to be a patriot and no one is going to say that about my dad? That's what got me started talking. I couldn't stand it anymore," Ken Hunter said.
In the note, Stack wrote that he realized "violence not only is the answer, it is the only answer." He apparently set fire to his home before taking off Thursday from an airport 30 miles north of the Texas capital. His current wife and her daughter were not at home at the time.
Austin Police Chief Art Acevedo said his wife, Sheryl Stack, and her daughter had left the couple's home Wednesday night and stayed at a hotel but would not elaborate. Acevedo said police had no reports of domestic violence at the home.
Stack's daughter from his first marriage, Samantha Dawn Bell, said the Web manifesto didn't sound like the father she knew.
"It's not him. The letter itself sounds like it's coming from a different person," she said in an interview from her home in Norway.
Stack also lashed out at his Austin-based accountant Bill Ross in the anti-IRS screed. In a statement, Ross said Stack hired him for tax help in 2008 but the pilot had failed to give him all his financial information, resulting in an IRS audit.
Ross said when Stack ignored the audit and his advice, he ended the business relationship and had not been in touch with him since October.
No one answered the door at Ross' house Saturday. But his spokesman said the accountant was fine. "Certainly nobody wants their name in a rambling manifesto of someone who ran his plane into a building," said Chad Wilbanks, a former executive director of the Texas Republican Party.
Back at the Hunter home, Ken Hunter said he assumed the worst after not hearing from his father within an hour after the crash.
"I called dad about 20 times. I never got an answer," said the younger Hunter, who lives in San Antonio. "I could tell."
Vernon Hunter grew up in Orangeburg, S.C. before joining the Army after high school in 1959 and served about 20 years. Though he liked his job at the IRS, he had just begun to hint at retirement and was talking about going back to school to get a degree teaching children with learning disabilities.
Hunter and his wife, Valerie, each had three children before they were married and melded the large family together, Ken Hunter said. He also loved the Washington Redskins football team and eating good Texas barbecue.

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Sat 02/20/10 09:12 PM
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delilady's photo
Sat 02/20/10 09:20 PM
This so sad. My son is living in Cedar Park with my stepson and his family and this has just devastated that whole community

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Sat 02/20/10 09:23 PM
Edited by willing2 on Sat 02/20/10 09:33 PM
I feel sad for the family.

Too bad the IRS has no conscience when they destroy families.

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Sat 02/20/10 09:48 PM
Oh, geeze.

The guy could have been a complete azz who beat his wife and locked the kids in the basement.

OF COURSE the people interviewed are going to say he was a " loving family man ".

What that f@ckstick with the plane did absolutely HAS to be as tragic as possible.

Seriously. Has anyone EVER seen an interview after someone dies in a way that was unexpected and unnecessary and heard ANYONE say that the person involved was a dips**t????

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Sat 02/20/10 11:19 PM
it doesn't matter to me what the guy was like. He had a family and was doing his job. Does the IRS make the tax laws?

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Sun 02/21/10 01:32 AM
Dude was in the wrong place at the wrong time.

Of course, that isn't good enough for the media.

They have to turn the guy into some kind of saint.

Like I said...of all the people who have died tragically...how many of them, when the family was interviewed, were azzholes??

For all the media knows,....he was behind HUNDREDS of audits that drove people into bankruptcy or otherwise ruined their lives. But are they ( the media ) gonna go looking for that??

Nope.

Granted, I do feel for the family.

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Sun 02/21/10 02:01 AM
A patriot??? I dont think he was being very patriotic his actions could have resulted in the deaths of innocent people who at the end of the day where just doing there jobs. Anna x

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Sun 02/21/10 04:59 AM

A patriot??? I dont think he was being very patriotic his actions could have resulted in the deaths of innocent people who at the end of the day where just doing there jobs. Anna x



It's not like the media didn't look for, interview people for and report on the positive aspects of Joe Stack's life.

I guess what doesn't wash with me is the fact that someone who was supposedly bankrupted by the IRS still owned an airplane. And then to burn down him family's house to spite the IRS, to the detriment of his surviving family?

And then certain people tell ME *I* need anger management counseling, LOL!!

-Kerry O.

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Sun 02/21/10 05:05 AM


A patriot??? I dont think he was being very patriotic his actions could have resulted in the deaths of innocent people who at the end of the day where just doing there jobs. Anna x



It's not like the media didn't look for, interview people for and report on the positive aspects of Joe Stack's life.

I guess what doesn't wash with me is the fact that someone who was supposedly bankrupted by the IRS still owned an airplane. And then to burn down him family's house to spite the IRS, to the detriment of his surviving family?

And then certain people tell ME *I* need anger management counseling, LOL!!

-Kerry O.


Kerry when do you next go for anger counseling? i will join youlaugh laugh Anna x

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Sun 02/21/10 05:35 AM



A patriot??? I dont think he was being very patriotic his actions could have resulted in the deaths of innocent people who at the end of the day where just doing there jobs. Anna x



It's not like the media didn't look for, interview people for and report on the positive aspects of Joe Stack's life.

I guess what doesn't wash with me is the fact that someone who was supposedly bankrupted by the IRS still owned an airplane. And then to burn down him family's house to spite the IRS, to the detriment of his surviving family?

And then certain people tell ME *I* need anger management counseling, LOL!!

-Kerry O.


Kerry when do you next go for anger counseling? i will join youlaugh laugh Anna x


I suspect one is on the way-- wait for it. :)

Pretty much all one need do is post an opinion that gores the Dr. Phil types' sacred oxen, an being unable to engage you on the facts, they'll chin themselves on their monitors in their rush to start psycholanalzying you. Or throw left-handed insults at you like that scene in the newest Star Trek movie where the young Spock loses it and gives a few boys fat lips when they inpugn his mother's character.

I wasn't a big fan of her ideology, but I really liked one thing Mrs. Thatcher said:



Being powerful is like being a lady. If you have to tell someone you are, you aren't.



-Kerry O.

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Sun 02/21/10 05:53 AM



A patriot??? I dont think he was being very patriotic his actions could have resulted in the deaths of innocent people who at the end of the day where just doing there jobs. Anna x



It's not like the media didn't look for, interview people for and report on the positive aspects of Joe Stack's life.

I guess what doesn't wash with me is the fact that someone who was supposedly bankrupted by the IRS still owned an airplane. And then to burn down him family's house to spite the IRS, to the detriment of his surviving family?

And then certain people tell ME *I* need anger management counseling, LOL!!

-Kerry O.


I have to agree with you on the plane Kerry. Those babies aren't cheap, even at the low end of anything so how does he manage to keep that if he's supposedly bankrupted? Shouldn't that have been sold to pay off some debts?


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Sun 02/21/10 08:05 AM



I have to agree with you on the plane Kerry. Those babies aren't cheap, even at the low end of anything so how does he manage to keep that if he's supposedly bankrupted? Shouldn't that have been sold to pay off some debts?




Not to mention that it's anything but cheap to operate a plane. There's the high octane avgas and the insurance, which I suppose will cover only a small portion of the damages if indeed he carried it.

Another point brought out in the press was Stack's claim that his only 'sin' was not filing a tax return for one year because he alleged he made exactly NO money that year. I can't imagine ANYONE in business not knowing better than that-- I suspect there's a lot more to that facet of the affair.

Just my opinion, but I think the whole affair needs the utmost scrutiny, if for no other reason than to show that this was an act of a berserker using indiscriminate violence to make a political statement, NOT a man of principle using martyrdom to further the cause of justice. Maybe if all the facts are brought to the light of day, peer pressure will give future beserkers pause for more rational vents to their grievances.


-Kerry O.