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Topic: He just doesn't get it...
InvictusV's photo
Tue 02/09/10 09:27 AM
Obamanation is still pushing the man made global warming HOAX.. This guy just doesn't get it..


The Obama administration announced plans yesterday to create a new National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration Climate Service.

The proposed entity would provide "user-friendly" information to help governments and businesses adapt to climate change, creating a central federal source of information on everything from projections of sea level rise to maps of the nation's best sites for wind and solar power.

"Even with our best efforts, we know that some degree of climate change is inevitable," said Commerce Secretary Gary Locke, whose department includes NOAA. "American citizens, businesses and governments -- from local to federal -- must be able to rise to the challenges that lie ahead. And that's where NOAA's climate service will prove absolutely invaluable."

Just as NOAA's National Weather Service provides information on short-range environmental conditions, the proposed climate service will provide long-term projections of how climate will change, he added.

And just as a private weather industry -- including companies like the Weather Channel -- has sprung up around the National Weather Service, Locke said he hopes creating the climate service will spur a new private climate information sector.

"If you own a ski resort, you're might be wondering, do you expand or not expand? What's the impact of climate change on weather patterns at a certain elevation where your ski resort is?" he said. "Some people will take this information to the private sector and focus just on ski resorts."

While attention on Capitol Hill has focused on efforts to mitigate global warming by slashing greenhouse gas emissions, state and local governments and the private sector have been asking the federal government for help understanding how the shifting climate will affect their operations.

Adaptation queries expected to explode

Lubchenco said her agency already receives millions of requests each year for the type of information the proposed climate service would provide, "and we fully expect requests for information to grow explosively."

"There is no question about the critical need for this service," she said. "Climate change is real. It's happening now in our own backyards and around the globe, and it's beginning to touch nearly every aspect of our lives."

The NOAA chief said climate change is already raising sea levels, lengthening growing seasons, prompting earlier spring snowmelts and shifts in river flows, causing more intense drought and increasing the incidence of extreme weather.

Under the plan unveiled yesterday, the new NOAA Climate Service would incorporate some of the agency's existing laboratories and research programs, including the National Climatic Data Center, the Geophysical Fluid Dynamics Laboratory and the National Weather Service's Historical Climate Network (see NOAA's proposed organization chart (pdf)).

NCDC head Thomas Karl will serve as the climate service's transitional director. NOAA also plans to create new positions for six regional climate service directors.

Administration officials said they hope to have the climate service up and running by Oct. 1, the start of the 2011 fiscal year. But meeting that deadline will require negotiating with Congress, employee groups and the Office of Management and Budget to hammer out details.

No formal legislation required

"This does not require formal legislation," Locke said. "We do need to have the concurrence of the House and Senate appropriators, since ultimately it will require movement of funds that go to various agencies within NOAA to the new climate service office."

The agency won't ask for an increase to the $5.554 billion it received in President Obama's fiscal 2011 budget request, he said.

Climate legislation now pending in Congress, including the House-passed H.R. 5424 (pdf) and S. 1733 (pdf) last fall, includes language to establish a climate service.

NOAA briefing materials distributed yesterday note that the agency believes the National Climate Program Act of 1978 allows it to create a climate service, although "updated authorization that reflects the latest science and service approaches would ultimately be helpful."

The agency also released a lengthy list of testimonials supporting the climate service, including notes from President George W. Bush's NOAA administrator, the president and CEO of Duke Energy, the head of the Natural Resources Defense Council and the president of the National Weather Service Employees Organization.

The employee group had initially lobbied to create a climate service within the National Weather Service (E&ENews PM, May 5, 2009).

Meanwhile, as plans for the new climate service shape up, NOAA launched a new Web site yesterday, climate.gov, designed to provide access to a wide range of climate information, from links to federal reports to a "dashboard" that allows visitors to examine climatic conditions for any year between 1880 and 2009.

http://www.nytimes.com/cwire/2010/02/09/09climatewire-agency-will-create-national-climate-service-63603.html

140 years of data from a planet that has been existence for over 4 billion years.. Unbelievable..

cashu's photo
Tue 02/09/10 06:14 PM
Edited by cashu on Tue 02/09/10 06:15 PM

Obamanation is still pushing the man made global warming HOAX.. This guy just doesn't get it..


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He is a very stiff neck guy . Every liberal I know is that way . They think they are superior to us mortals . God I hate liberals .

Dragoness's photo
Tue 02/09/10 06:18 PM
Good.

We need more people to be doing the right things for the environment.

Good job.

cashu's photo
Tue 02/09/10 06:58 PM
I have an idea lets use the liberals as fertilizer .

Dragoness's photo
Tue 02/09/10 07:01 PM
Edited by Dragoness on Tue 02/09/10 07:01 PM
Not funny.

Most people who complain about liberals can't even identify one anyway so that general insult really is not effective.

Quietman_2009's photo
Tue 02/09/10 07:03 PM
"If you're not with us, you're against us and we'll do anything to destroy your reputation and credibility"

-most liberals/conservatives

Dragoness's photo
Tue 02/09/10 07:05 PM

"If you're not with us, you're against us and we'll do anything to destroy your reputation and credibility"

-most liberals/conservatives


Actually it seems to be a political push pull and it goes across the board. I haven't seen a political stance yet that doesn't do it.

Giocamo's photo
Tue 02/09/10 07:30 PM
global warming is a hoax !!

InvictusV's photo
Tue 02/09/10 07:34 PM

global warming is a hoax !!


This is an example of a real scare tactic..

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Tue 02/09/10 08:08 PM


global warming is a hoax !!


This is an example of a real scare tactic..



You're right 'invictusV', anyone still insisting on spreading the delusion that 'global warming is a hoax',

... IS REALLY SCARY!!! ... tactically speaking of course.

markumX's photo
Tue 02/09/10 08:51 PM

global warming is a hoax !!

so was the moon landing

InvictusV's photo
Thu 02/11/10 08:35 AM



global warming is a hoax !!


This is an example of a real scare tactic..



You're right 'invictusV', anyone still insisting on spreading the delusion that 'global warming is a hoax',

... IS REALLY SCARY!!! ... tactically speaking of course.


There was an ice age 3 million years ago and since most of north america is no longer covered in a sheet of ice, It's safe to say that climate changes without the influence of man.

Quietman_2009's photo
Thu 02/11/10 08:42 AM
Edited by Quietman_2009 on Thu 02/11/10 08:42 AM
actually (just off the top of my head) I think the last ice age was only a few thousand years ago

and coming out of the ice age is kinda cyclical too, warm for a few thousand years and cold for a few thousand years

the only thing you can bet on is that the earths climate is NOT static. it is either cooling or warming all the time

it is our thing to adapt and evolve for optimum survival

and it occurs to me that there are many ancient great cities resting at the bottom of the ocean

InvictusV's photo
Thu 02/11/10 09:02 AM

actually (just off the top of my head) I think the last ice age was only a few thousand years ago

and coming out of the ice age is kinda cyclical too, warm for a few thousand years and cold for a few thousand years

the only thing you can bet on is that the earths climate is NOT static. it is either cooling or warming all the time

it is our thing to adapt and evolve for optimum survival

and it occurs to me that there are many ancient great cities resting at the bottom of the ocean


The Ice Age of 3 million years ago forged the landscape of most of North America. There have been Ice Ages since then, but not as massive as the one I was referring to.

Quietman_2009's photo
Thu 02/11/10 09:08 AM
Edited by Quietman_2009 on Thu 02/11/10 09:09 AM
as far as global warming

I'm sure it prolly is

whether it's because ot man or just a natural fluctuation. I dunno. and it prolly doesnt really matter

we still have to adapt to it and survive as a species

I have been saying for twenty years that the best thing that could happen to us as a race is some form of disaster to kill off maybe a third of the human race

culling the herd as it were

sure it would be tragic for untold millions. but for the health of the race as a whole it would strengthen the human herd

InvictusV's photo
Thu 02/11/10 09:13 AM

as far as global warming

I'm sure it prolly is

whether it's because ot man or just a natural fluctuation. I dunno. and it prolly doesnt really matter

we still have to adapt to it and survive as a species

I have been saying for twenty years that the best thing that could happen to us as a race is some form of disaster to kill off maybe a third of the human race

culling the herd as it were

sure it would be tragic for untold millions. but for the health of the race as a whole it would strengthen the human herd


interesting concept.. unfortunately the old adage of survival of the fittest has been killed off by our political correctness..

kaadeshka's photo
Thu 02/11/10 09:22 AM


as far as global warming

I'm sure it prolly is

whether it's because ot man or just a natural fluctuation. I dunno. and it prolly doesnt really matter

we still have to adapt to it and survive as a species

I have been saying for twenty years that the best thing that could happen to us as a race is some form of disaster to kill off maybe a third of the human race

culling the herd as it were

sure it would be tragic for untold millions. but for the health of the race as a whole it would strengthen the human herd


interesting concept.. unfortunately the old adage of survival of the fittest has been killed off by our political correctness..


That or the assumption that it's always the "fittest" in the most literal sense doing all the surviving. I've seen a lot of people do some incredibly unintelligent things- and we've all heard of the Darwin awards.

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Thu 02/11/10 09:29 AM
perhaps all those of the persuasion, that a thinning down of the spieces be in order, to perpetuate the preservation of all, gather all themselves together, and commence to taking their own live's, therefore allowing the rest of the herd to run free and strong, for such would indeed show the words of courage for other's to be eliminated, are of sheer cowardice, for what self be not willing to first do unto itself in true reality, is but a figment of courage and bravery in the mind, for when one's own limbs be pulled from it's body, courage and self bravery be seen no where around....

nothing is stopping anything from thinning itself out, for the preservation of all the rest....

carry on carry on, for such plan the mind believe be best, itself should test out on itself, lol....

indeed, the planet is warming, for glacier's are indeed melting, but the immense motivation be but for profit sake, so the remedy be flawed in first inception, for what hath monetary gain in mind in any way, will cover it's own eye's, from the larger picture that always exist, that show the way clear to true soltuion, for as the sun stand still, for much longer than expected in the days ahead, no amount of data delivered will provide safe harbor....

for what is up shall become as down, and what is down shall become as up, for as the gravitational pulls upoin the earth shall change each day expidentially unto 2012, so shall the condition's of the earth change drastically, for in a quick moment of just one profound day, all that was shall be topsided, so where onst would first believe be sately, shall be an opposite


Quietman_2009's photo
Thu 02/11/10 09:44 AM
perhaps all those of the persuasion, that a thinning down of the spieces be in order, to perpetuate the preservation of all, gather all themselves together, and commence to taking their own live's, therefore allowing the rest of the herd to run free and strong, for such would indeed show the words of courage for other's to be eliminated,


I'm working on it

I'm doing my part, just I'm kinda slow at it

gimme another cigarette and a shot of tequila

kaadeshka's photo
Thu 02/11/10 10:02 AM

perhaps all those of the persuasion, that a thinning down of the spieces be in order, to perpetuate the preservation of all, gather all themselves together, and commence to taking their own live's, therefore allowing the rest of the herd to run free and strong, for such would indeed show the words of courage for other's to be eliminated,


I'm working on it

I'm doing my part, just I'm kinda slow at it

gimme another cigarette and a shot of tequila


smokin Heck yes! drinker

I don't know if I actually mean it- but maybe some people just shouldn't be allowed to reproduce or something?

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