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Sun 02/07/10 08:48 PM
Edited by Shasta1 on Sun 02/07/10 08:51 PM
you say something to someone, a stranger, out of anger...do you really beleive what you said? Or are you just venting, your psyche releasing things that have built up?
Because what have heard, anger is just hurt feelings.

Ladylid2012's photo
Sun 02/07/10 08:50 PM
On the rare occasions I say anything mean to anyone..within seconds I'm apologizing all over them. Very out of character for me to be mean...usually it is because I am hurt and want to hurt them back...then I feel bad for hurting them.

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Sun 02/07/10 08:52 PM
yes, thats what I mean. Wasn't exactly mean, but very honest and now feel bad...because been having the feeling all day that their feelings have been hurt.

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Sun 02/07/10 08:53 PM

On the rare occasions I say anything mean to anyone..within seconds I'm apologizing all over them. Very out of character for me to be mean...usually it is because I am hurt and want to hurt them back...then I feel bad for hurting them.
Ditto...
I learned a long time ago that words which hurt,,can never be taken
back....so I am trained to not project them,,unless attacked, wink.

Shasta1's photo
Sun 02/07/10 08:54 PM
It's my boss, was finally totally honest with her, she doesn't seem to grasp her dismissing problems and keyed her in on how everyone is feeling.

Updawg's photo
Sun 02/07/10 08:54 PM
Anger is not always hurt feelings...otherwise road rage would not exist.

IndnPrncs's photo
Sun 02/07/10 08:54 PM
Speak when you are angry - and you will make the best speech you'll ever regret...

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Sun 02/07/10 08:55 PM
I always figure my words hurt more when I inflict them on others...
I rarely get hurt or offended by others.

That's just how I roll...

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Sun 02/07/10 08:58 PM
Actually, have practiced what have needed to tell her for a long time, in a way that it wouldn't hurt her. She's very passive agressive and can cut you to the quick....when she brings things up...I know they're not for me but it can really hurt for as hard as worked to bring the place around.

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Sun 02/07/10 08:59 PM
BUT ITS SO DAMN HARD TO KEEP YOUR MOUTH SHUT, WHE YOUR ANGRY!!!

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Sun 02/07/10 09:01 PM
Sticks and stones may break my bones, but words can never hurt me! smile2spock

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Sun 02/07/10 09:01 PM

Actually, have practiced what have needed to tell her for a long time, in a way that it wouldn't hurt her. She's very passive agressive and can cut you to the quick....when she brings things up...I know they're not for me but it can really hurt for as hard as worked to bring the place around.

passive-aggressive people are very challenging to be around ...I generally weed them out of my life... no matter who they are.

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Sun 02/07/10 09:02 PM

It's my boss, was finally totally honest with her, she doesn't seem to grasp her dismissing problems and keyed her in on how everyone is feeling.
Many people can't or want to face THEIR truths.
If a boss was told they may be doing something wrong where others feel they are..Then that boss might be worst,,by being MORE of what they were told that others felt they were..Some,,rare ones might try and change what the others felt was wrong in their process. but MOST will nod and listen,,then just brush that away.and remain THEM.
Many will be hurt,,and sort of attack out from their useral..
Others may feel a need to inter-act more with the workers or just call a group together to discuss it?
But to speak out,,,is always a risk,,,as to how that person may react to your wordsand thoughts...:wink: flowerforyou

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Sun 02/07/10 09:02 PM

BUT ITS SO DAMN HARD TO KEEP YOUR MOUTH SHUT, WHE YOUR ANGRY!!!


Yea, it is. Made it through all these years, not getting angry. Then when you finally do start saying things...worry about how they feel. God, am such a weirdo, working on being assertive has been a life long thing.

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Sun 02/07/10 09:07 PM


It's my boss, was finally totally honest with her, she doesn't seem to grasp her dismissing problems and keyed her in on how everyone is feeling.
Many people can't or want to face THEIR truths.
If a boss was told they may be doing something wrong where others feel they are..Then that boss might be worst,,by being MORE of what they were told that others felt they were..Some,,rare ones might try and change what the others felt was wrong in their process. but MOST will nod and listen,,then just brush that away.and remain THEM.
Many will be hurt,,and sort of attack out from their useral..
Others may feel a need to inter-act more with the workers or just call a group together to discuss it?
But to speak out,,,is always a risk,,,as to how that person may react to your wordsand thoughts...:wink: flowerforyou


I've asked her several times for a staff meeting, since maybe Oct?
I'm supposed to be the manger there but the morning person is as lazy as can be. Even gave her back a list -which she requested a few weeks ago, of things we need attention to. But then it's the same thing, over and over again- finally confronted her after asking for a week off (March will be a year) and she granted me 2 days. I am a little upset, with all the work have to do and her favoring the morning person who is doing less than ever.

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Sun 02/07/10 09:23 PM
These our tough times at many work places.
Not knowing yours and if your job would be hard for them to re-fill.
But its just as important for you to feel their doing you right there..IF their not I would stand my ground and maybe take it or your main issue to HER boss to settle..BUT that to comes with re-buttles from all that she can do to you as to making your job harder through her un-seen actions.
If you knew her boss would have to see that your views were true and this problem stays a problem under her management then YES,, I would resolve my issue through all and whatever my means were to do.. YOUR time off,,,should NOT be an issue as you should have a built in format through contract that she has to except and follow..
or a certain criteria set in place that regulates all time off for the staff there? I would hope anyway?

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Sun 02/07/10 09:30 PM
statistics say 87% of employees don't enjoy work..

i would say the majority aren't empowered and have to work for an unreasonable boss...

also, i would say most bosses don't care about you the slightest bit..they can care less about you, they do however care about profits..

roko

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Sun 02/07/10 09:33 PM
Her bosses are the Board. It's very small but we serve alot. I am ready to call and say I think I should be going to the board meetings once a month. I really like her but she isn't a good boss, doesn't really know what is going on, actually I think how to say to someone we need you to pick up your job orwe may need to look for someone else.. I had to finally be honest yesterday, didn't attack but was honest about how people felt they were afraid of her. Was hoping for some feedback, perhaps just what I wanted was someone to agree with what I said. Have the next few days off, by Wed. pm will have made a decsion to call or not to call the Pres. of the board so they will get real feedback by me attending the meetings. I now understand why the program was doing so badly, and have for the last 6 months.

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Sun 02/07/10 09:41 PM
Just know that all actions have reactions..know your shlt well before making big waves...then exclusively produce your facts, and show your case as to why, how, and reasons to make these changes..
THEN,,your have all your ducks in a row and it should produce a change if they feel your imformation saves them money or work,or
public opinions of their place..
I hope you weigh it all out and make the correct moves to remain productive there and liking your job more,,good luck.:heart:

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Sun 02/07/10 09:49 PM
Yes. thats the jump I was talking about. My ducks are good, my heart in the right place. She is the same...just burnt out. I'm not going in there to vent but to give a little insight. Who knows, needed these days to sleep and think about it. Just wanted a few more to get away and really escape, a real vacation.
Thanks all for input.

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