Topic: Medical cannabis
68chevy's photo
Thu 02/04/10 05:09 PM
14 States now allow cannabis to be used for medical purposes.
The D.E.A., or feds doesn't agree with this.
Do you think federal law should be able to overthrow state laws?
Should the people that have been recommenced to use cannabis by a physician be busted by the D.E.A. for something that may help their condition?
Quoted from From Wikipedia
"Although the extent of the medicinal value of cannabis has been disputed, it does have several well-documented beneficial effects. Among these are: the amelioration of nausea and vomiting, stimulation of hunger in chemotherapy and AIDS patients, lowered intraocular eye pressure (shown to be effective for treating glaucoma), as well as general analgesic effects (pain reliever)."
There are well documented cases to support the use of cannabis for medical conditions.
Thoughts?

Quietman_2009's photo
Thu 02/04/10 05:13 PM
the Federal government absolutely can not overturn state law


10th Amendment to the US Constitution

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

I don't think the Constitution mentions marijuana anywhere so it is up to the states to pass whatever law they please for or against it

causality's photo
Thu 02/04/10 05:13 PM
Edited by causality on Thu 02/04/10 05:13 PM
What about non-medicinal use? I need to smoke it in order to stop the impulses to be out there murdering all of the sheeple I see grazing and bleating everywhere. Without pot, I would have long since snapped under the strain of losing my job, the divorce, losing the place, losing the other place, and having to move so damn often. I'm all for both medicinal and non-medicinal use of the plant. Heck, In Genesis, God Himself said that we (humanity) can use all of the seed-bearing plants. (Not just the legal ones, but all of them) As a side note, the original constitution itself is written on paper that is made out of hemp.

68chevy's photo
Thu 02/04/10 05:47 PM
The D.E.A has in fact has done this in the past, instead of using resources to go after drug dealers ruining neighborhoods and poisoning school kids, they're going after individuals dying of cancer and suffering from AIDS who need cannabis to have any type of appetite.
DEA agents raided 11 Los Angeles-area dispensaries in one day.
The DEA sent letters to at least 30 landlords of marijuana dispensaries in Los Angeles County warning their property and assets could be seized.

Quietman_2009's photo
Thu 02/04/10 05:49 PM
Edited by Quietman_2009 on Thu 02/04/10 05:49 PM

The D.E.A has in fact has done this in the past, instead of using resources to go after drug dealers ruining neighborhoods and poisoning school kids, they're going after individuals dying of cancer and suffering from AIDS who need cannabis to have any type of appetite.
DEA agents raided 11 Los Angeles-area dispensaries in one day.
The DEA sent letters to at least 30 landlords of marijuana dispensaries in Los Angeles County warning their property and assets could be seized.


but (on Obama's orders) they have stopped doing that

The feds no longer are enforcing Federal drug laws when they conflict with state drug laws

FearandLoathing's photo
Thu 02/04/10 05:52 PM

the Federal government absolutely can not overturn state law


10th Amendment to the US Constitution

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

I don't think the Constitution mentions marijuana anywhere so it is up to the states to pass whatever law they please for or against it


Yep.

While were on it, what are the negative effects of marijuana? Obviously I'm sure your lungs are at risk, though the documented findings of that can be disputed.

What I'm getting at here is this; we have a world of knowledge at our fingertips, a plethora of well-documented and well-studied cases right here on our monitors...yet still, there are people that believe that marijuana is a gateway drug, that it causes long-term psychological damage, of course it is also deadly. Where, in the world...is there one documented case of a stoner shooting up a house? Robbing his neighbors for cash? Robbing a bank even? Well, I can't find one, I can't even find one documented death that is attributed to only marijuana.

To be fair, I have found in my years of studying that there are at least two cases that the coroner directly blamed marijuana as the cause of death...two...

willing2's photo
Thu 02/04/10 05:57 PM

The D.E.A has in fact has done this in the past, instead of using resources to go after drug dealers ruining neighborhoods and poisoning school kids, they're going after individuals dying of cancer and suffering from AIDS who need cannabis to have any type of appetite.
DEA agents raided 11 Los Angeles-area dispensaries in one day.
The DEA sent letters to at least 30 landlords of marijuana dispensaries in Los Angeles County warning their property and assets could be seized.


I am a hunter. I will shoot a sitting duck or a lame deer. Every agency demands quotas. No quota, no job. According to the DEA, they are well within their jurisdiction.

What will/can you do to stop them aside from bringing it up on a forum?

Tell us what actions you intend on taking and some may back you up and do the same.

Point is, present a problem, then, debate solutions. Have you any solutions?

After all that typing, looks like Quiet done went and deflated this thread.

68chevy's photo
Thu 02/04/10 06:07 PM
Colorado 1-28-2010 — Federal drug-enforcement agents earlier this week seized medical-marijuana samples from a Denver lab that does potency testing for dispensaries, in what cannabis advocates say is an instance of continued official harassment of the medical-marijuana industry.

The raid at Full Spectrum Laboratories, just north of downtown Denver, occurred Wednesday, said Betty Aldworth, the lab’s outreach director. She said agents took dozens of medical-marijuana samples — either small pieces of plants or test tubes of “extraction fluid” — but left the lab’s equipment and did not arrest anyone.

Neither a Drug Enforcement Administration spokesman nor a U.S. attorney’s office spokesman would confirm or deny that the raid took place.

Documents that would reveal why federal authorities targeted the lab were not available Thursday.

“We cannot comment on ongoing federal investigations,” DEA spokesman Mike Turner said.

Rob Corry, an attorney for the lab, also declined to comment.

Aldworth said lab employees are baffled as to why DEA agents would raid the lab. She said the lab is designated as a caregiver for several medical-marijuana patients in the state.


68chevy's photo
Fri 02/05/10 02:35 AM


What will/can you do to stop them aside from bringing it up on a forum?

Tell us what actions you intend on taking and some may back you up and do the same.

Point is, present a problem, then, debate solutions. Have you any solutions?

Guess if you are serious about doing something then here is a link to get you started.
http://www.norml.org/index.cfm?Group_ID=3391