Topic: the people win
Quietman_2009's photo
Tue 01/19/10 06:37 PM
WASHINGTON (Reuters) – A U.S. judge on Thursday granted a preliminary injunction barring the Obama administration from trying to regulate electronic cigarettes and prevent them from being imported into the United States.

In a sharply worded decision, U.S. District Judge Richard Leon scolded the Food and Drug Administration for trying to assert jurisdiction over the cigarettes, which are battery-powered or rechargeable devices that vaporize a liquid nicotine solution.

"This case appears to be yet another example of FDA's aggressive efforts to regulate recreational tobacco products as drugs or devices," he said in granting an injunction barring the FDA from regulating the cigarettes as a drug-device combination.

E-cigarettes were first made in China and are sold mostly on the Internet. The battery-powered devices work by a emitting a "puff" or fine mist of nicotine in the lungs.

A law passed last year gave the FDA power over regular cigarettes and other tobacco products. But while e-cigarettes contain nicotine, they do not contain tobacco and are not subject to the new oversight.

But FDA maintains it has control over the products because they aim to treat people suffering from nicotine withdrawal, making them a combination drug and device -- two things the agency has regulated for years.

A company that imports the electronic cigarettes, Smoking Everywhere Inc., had two shipments detained by the agency in late 2008 because they were not FDA approved.

The FDA later barred the importation of electronic cigarettes and their components by three Chinese companies. The FDA also denied entry to more than 35 shipments from 20 other manufacturers, according to the court ruling.

Smoking Everywhere and another manufacturer asked the court to bar the FDA from refusing entry to their products and regulating them, which Leon agreed to do.

PRODUCE NO SMOKE

The court noted that the other company in the case, NJOY, labeled its products with a disclaimer that they were not for smoking cessation. On its website, NJOY says one main reason people use the product is that it produces no smoke and can be used in some places where smoking is prohibited.

Smoking Everywhere said in its original complaint last year that it had imported and sold more than 600,000 electronic cigarette kits.

A lawyer representing the companies said that he expected the FDA to appeal the decision, although he argued the judge anticipated many of the arguments the agency could make.

"It's going to be difficult for the FDA to get Judge Leon reversed," said the lawyer, Kip Schwartz of Thompson Hine LLP. "But that won't stop them."

FDA spokesman George Strait said the agency was reviewing the judge's decision, adding that "the public health issues surrounding electronic cigarettes are of serious concern."

The agency has said it is worried about safety issues and last year warned that some samples it tested contained carcinogens and toxic chemicals. The World Health Organization has also warned against their use, saying there was no evidence to prove they were safe or helped smokers break the habit.

The Campaign for Tobacco-Free Kids and other consumer advocacy groups blasted the ruling, saying it put U.S. consumers at risk.

"This is a misguided and mind-boggling decision by the court," said National Research Center for Women & Families President Diana Zuckerman. "Nicotine is an addictive drug, and therefore e-cigarettes are a drug delivery system."

-YAHOO NEWS

yellowrose10's photo
Tue 01/19/10 06:38 PM
so what reason was there for not allowing them to begin with?

TJN's photo
Tue 01/19/10 06:41 PM

so what reason was there for not allowing them to begin with?

Because people would smoke less and the government would loose a huge percentage of taxes.

Quietman_2009's photo
Tue 01/19/10 06:45 PM
it's been a govt strategy for 30 or 40 years to get cigarettes classified as a nicotine delivery system and thus under FDA and DEA jurisdiction

this is a setback for that

but now I can get E-cigarettes at the mall or the tobacco shop.

yellowrose10's photo
Tue 01/19/10 06:49 PM
ok....so it has nothing to done with dangerous chemicals or whatever (no different than cigarettes) it's all about money???

Ladylid2012's photo
Tue 01/19/10 07:20 PM

ok....so it has nothing to done with dangerous chemicals or whatever (no different than cigarettes) it's all about money???


yep

boredinaz06's photo
Tue 01/19/10 07:35 PM

ok....so it has nothing to done with dangerous chemicals or whatever (no different than cigarettes) it's all about money???


This is why I smoke crack!!!

yellowrose10's photo
Tue 01/19/10 07:36 PM


ok....so it has nothing to done with dangerous chemicals or whatever (no different than cigarettes) it's all about money???


yep


gotta love the reasons huh laugh

it's things like this makes me not like politicians

Quietman_2009's photo
Tue 01/19/10 08:01 PM
except this time

this time it's all about me getting something I want

TJN's photo
Tue 01/19/10 08:21 PM

except this time

this time it's all about me getting something I want

Have you tried them yet?
I've heard good things about them from talk radio here and was thinking about getting one.

Quietman_2009's photo
Tue 01/19/10 08:24 PM
I've been reading a bit about em

I tried one in Toronto once but I didnt really know what it was at the time and didnt pay as much attention as I should have

the idea is that nicotine itself is not much more harmful than caffeine. the deadly stuff comes from the combustion

so these are just nicotine vaporizers

ummmmmmmm...

in other words

a nicotine delivery system

southtc's photo
Tue 01/19/10 08:48 PM

so what reason was there for not allowing them to begin with?


The anti-smoking lobby doesn't want anyone smoking anything in any form. They just haven't figured out how to funnel money to a U.S. judge yet.

cashu's photo
Tue 01/19/10 09:13 PM

so what reason was there for not allowing them to begin with?
MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
because they stink like smoke in the toilet . smokers only smoke because they don't wash

TxsGal3333's photo
Tue 01/19/10 10:03 PM
Ya know I just can't see how something that runs off of batteries and your token on it. That somehow somewhere down the road many years from now they will not find out that it does in fact have side effects.

Humm and don't you still get the Nicotine or do you? whoa


They are not cheap either from what I heard.

But then on the other hand if it will get a lot to stop smoking, that is if there are no side effects down the road then more power to them.


It is not easy to stop hell when I smoked I smoked cause I actually enjoyed them.:laughing: :laughing: Now shsh have no desire for them just wish my son would quit. He started smoking after I quit go figure.noway noway noway

LewisW123's photo
Wed 01/20/10 04:10 AM


so what reason was there for not allowing them to begin with?


The anti-smoking lobby doesn't want anyone smoking anything in any form.


Except for the President sneaking one, out on the back porch of the White House.